Well ... I'm in favor of voluntary Euthanasia.

It is a tricky subject and the checks and balances are very difficult to pin down.

Just because someone is 'old' and can't wipe their bum (because they did their health in from poor influences through-out their life to make them age - pathetically)...

...gives them no right to ask to be 'put down' (Cop out).

Death is about suffering, especially for those who deserve to suffer its effects.

Before you know it, we will consider being 'Old' as an excuse to be euthanized like
"Oh I can't do this and that anymore - what's the point. Put me down! I can't be bothered making the effort."



Euthanasia is a cop out by those who do not want to take 'responsibility' for themselves or for others who must care for their dying but don't want to pay the ongoing medical bills. "Pull the plug Doc on my partner. I want to move on in life and go play Golf, rather than stay here another month or year emptying their tubes and changing their sheets."

"We've done tests on your Foetus - Mr & Mrs Jones and we have discovered that your child will not be good at many subjects at School."
"Well Doc, we best terminate this one and try again later for something more to our expectations."

Euthanasia is no different than the Death Penalty.
Yes we have murderers and villains, etc.
It takes more to learn to live with them and 'rise above' them, than to execute them (as if it never happened in the first place).

Are you 'afraid' to die from Pain and Suffering?
Do you feel that Death should be bliss and pain free like a nice drug over-dose at some recent Music Festivals?

Frank wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2019 at 8:51pm:


Equally, those who oppose gun control are aiding the killing of people who don't want to die, while their opposition to euthanasia, keeps alive those who do.

issuevoter wrote on Jan 5^th, 2019 at 6:30pm:


Having worked Palliative myself. I guess the 'Professional' thing for me to say in regards to your above comment is:

"They say that those who die in pain,
made life for everyone else just as painful."

As for my 'Personal' opinion on this matter.
Well now - what's in it for me?

Helen Wambach mass hypnotised a couple of hundred volunteers to test the theory of reincarnation.  The vast majority of the volunteers had no opinion re; reincarnation and Wambach claimed she did not subscribe to the theory

Afterwards, the volunteers were asked to complete a list of questions.  Those who'd experienced what they believed might be memories (under hypnosis) of a past life were said to be remarkably accurate when it came to clothing, eating utensils, etc.  As we know, the table fork has evolved through the centuries as have food bowls, etc.  Most did not refer to their past-life experience in terms of the calendar, but instead said they lived in the time of this or that king or ruler

Of most interest to me were those who claimed they had not 'entered' their physical body (in their current life) until shortly before or after physical birth.  In some instance, they had not taken possession of their physical body until months or even years after physical birth

From the parents' perspective however, they had a 'normal' child which gooed in its cot and recognised its parents.  Very probably, friends and family commented on the child's similarity to older family members. Small children rapidly develop and the child would have learned and developed memories in addition to developing character and personality

Then the switch-over occurred if the subjects' testimony is to be believed, and the 'true' owner of that body would have moved-in simultaneously with the moving-out of the temporary custodian

How was the switch-over accomplished?  How and when did the true and temporary owners communicate?  How was the child able to retain its memories and character/personality despite its two possessers?

We jump from that to those who've claimed that moments before catastrophe (severe accident or attempted murder, surgery, etc.) they were 'lifted out' of their physical body and were able to observe the scene below them.  They claim they 'felt no pain' and were able to calmly observe firemen, ambulance and police working to save their physical body.  It's also common for survivors to state (upon emerging from coma, etc.) to 'remember nothing'  I read an account in the news today, where a man claimed the 'last thing he remembered was pulling up at the lights'.  He'd been involved in a life-threatening accident

Why the insistence on suffering by those who oppose euthanasia, when far greater powers spare people from suffering, as with those who are 'lifted out' of their physical body and who 'felt nothing' of the trauma and suffering experienced by their physical bodies ?

Why the Calvinist insistence on suffering?

Why the insistence by some that people should be compelled to suffer their lives, when there exists testimony from those who were reluctant -- for months or years -- to take possession of what we must assume to be their assigned physical body ?  That they were able to postpone entering their assigned physical body for years in some instances, demonstrates that it is not only possible to do so, but sanctioned -- with willing stand-ins prepared to hold the fort


I'm surprised by JaSin's opposition to euthanasia, considering he opposes Abrahamic religious beliefs in favour of 'paganism'.  Surprised also that he would condone forcing people to suffer until the last painful hours of their body's decline until they're relieved of it by physical death


It's my belief that anyone is entitled to obtain an end to their physical life, regardless of their age, health, sickness or other-- and that their chosen end should be made as painless and guiltless as possible

The Reboot wrote on Mar 9^th, 2019 at 4:06pm:


If it were as simple as that, people would be doing it.  As would the terminally ill fireman a few weeks ago, who -- unable to find Vic doctors who would 'authorise' for his legal voluntary euthanasia -- had to travel to Dignitas in Switzerland in order to be assured of a painless and guaranteed death.  He didn't want a botch home-job, or that could have meant his family would have further problems during his last remaining months of agony.  And, if we bring cannibis oil into it, same applies -- potential botch jobs and possible further problems

Death/exit from one's life should be a matter for the individual only -- not religions, not governments or politicians.  But until the individual's prerogative to end their own mortal life is recognised, acknowledged and respected not only by religions and governments but also society --- hospitals will continue to churn out living vegetables as result of failed suicide, thus condemning the individual's family and govt. depts to up to 40 or more years of full-time care

What are religions, governments and societies scared of?  Why are they terrified thus angered by people's wish to exit mortal life? Why has society, via government, constructed rules regarding suicide?  Is it a sense of ownership of the individual?  Is it jealousy because the individual is prepared to jettison his life where others cringe in terror at the thought of death?  Is it arrogance on the part of society, of religions and government?  Don't see them having the same qualms when it comes to sending troops overseas to kill and die

Isn't it absurd that people have to leap from cliffs and buildings in order to get out of their life?  Isn't it tantamount to restauranters and theatre owners refusing to allow patrons to exit the building until the show or meal has been completed?  Would society tolerate that?

People shouldn't have to seek out dodgy drugs or firearms in order to exit their lives.  They want to exit their lives, not cause a mess or trauma, not to end up alive but with their bodies crippled. They don't want to end up beneath a train as a bag of mince that someone else has to clean up.  They want a swift, painless and drama-free death

The mark of a civilised, respectful society should be its preparedness to provide a painless, swift and trauma-free death to anyone who seeks it.  Until then, our supposedly progressive Aussie society stands guilty of refusing to allow people to choose the time of their death and failure to provide the means whereby people can achieve this