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Reply #60 - Dec 3rd, 2018 at 12:20pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Well for a start you have clearly said that measurements for these periods have no validity ?



Nope. That is not what I said. I said that paleo data because of the time spans involved don't show the fineness to assess any variations over small time spans.

I even cited Marcott's temperature reconstruction, he used 300 year smoothing over a 2000 year time span. Now i'll let you imagine what smoothing would be used over a 500,000 year time span. You do understand smoothing means you lose data?

Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Fact is that temperature in both these periods were high or low for known reasons that didn't relate to CO2 in the atmosphere.



No there are theories as to why they happened.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Nobody has ever said that CO2 is the only possible reason for high temperature and this argument is dependant on that clearly false assumption.



You mean like the recent paper that said all of the warming since 1950 was anthropogenic? Grin Grin Grin Grin

"Study: humans have caused all the global warming since 1950 "

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/apr/1...

reported in the garudian so it must be true.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 10:27pm:
The medieval warm period was caused by increased solar radiation.



Theory AKA supposition

Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 10:27pm:
Little Ice age was caused by reduced sunspot activity coupled with an increase in active volcano eruptions.


Theory aka supposition.

Sunspot activity was low for over 300 years?

The volcano activity one is really strange. It is posited on a 50 year volcanic episode of four eruptions. We know from recent large volcanic eruptions that the effects last possibly as long as four years. It leaves a long time span that is not covered.
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Reply #61 - Dec 3rd, 2018 at 12:23pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 10:34pm:
The point I was making is that you are supporting Lee's view but he has clearly stated that the numbers you have used have no value. Apparently accurate enough records only go back a 150 years or so.



Oh dear. failed comprehension again. Grin Grin Grin Grin

Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 10:34pm:
But hold on it seems that he is now having 2 bob each way. Apparently the numbers are ok when used on his side of the argument.



That's the way Climate ScienceTM operates. Like a station 1200 km away can be homogenized by other station data if it fails for a reason.
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Reply #62 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:01am
 
Ajax wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 10:45am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 2nd, 2018 at 6:36am:
and of course heavily polluted air in our cities r just a natural occurrence and nothing to do with us Humans...….
Nothing to see here just carry on...….. Cheesy


Yes us humans have an effect where have I said otherwise.

COX, SOX, NOX and soot are all pollutants and we should clean them up asap.

But CO2 is not a pollutant......!!!

You know those bubbles in you soft drink and beer they are CO2...!!!

Do we drink pollution......???

CO2 = plant food, eg. CO2 greenhouses....!

so u agree we need to stop using fossil fuels as soon as posable other wise we will keep polluting our world  Wink
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Reply #63 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 11:29am
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:01am:
so u agree we need to stop using fossil fuels as soon as posable other wise we will keep polluting our world



That would infer of course that there is a reliable replacement.

The good old days - sailing ships, hot air balloons, pedal bicycles and shank's pony.
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Reply #64 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:05pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 11:29am:
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 5:01am:
so u agree we need to stop using fossil fuels as soon as posable other wise we will keep polluting our world



That would infer of course that there is a reliable replacement.

The good old days - sailing ships, hot air balloons, pedal bicycles and shank's pony.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Grin good one Lee , u forgot Hiking Boots
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Reply #65 - Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:16pm
 
DonDeeHippy wrote on Dec 4th, 2018 at 9:05pm:
good one Lee , u forgot Hiking Boots



Hiking boots is what goes on shank's pony. Wink
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Reply #66 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 9:10am
 
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Reply #67 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:04pm
 
Cathy Wilcox has been drawing cartoons since she was old enough to scratch the furniture.

She honed her skills in the margins of school textbooks — always an eye out for squarish blank spaces.

Oh look she has something in common with John Cook; he's a cartoonist too.
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Reply #68 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:08pm
 
Oh look ... you have something in common with the cartoon.

You're a climate change denying troglodyte.  Grin
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Reply #69 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:15pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
You're a climate change denying troglodyte


Really? Where have I denied the climate doesn't change? Wink
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Reply #70 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:17pm
 
Now hear this: Whenever I mention Climate Change, you can take it that I'm talking about AGW.

Thanks.  Wink
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Reply #71 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:25pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:17pm:
Now hear this: Whenever I mention Climate Change, you can take it that I'm talking about AGW.



Yes. And when have I said AGW doesn't exist?

land clearance? UHI? All part of AGW.
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Reply #72 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:27pm
 
What's the other part of AGW?  Wink
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Reply #73 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:50pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:17pm:
Now hear this: Whenever I mention Climate Change, you can take it that I'm talking about AGW.

Thanks. 


I see.

Well, at least you openly admit that you're closed-minded.

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Reply #74 - Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:53pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Dec 5th, 2018 at 3:27pm:
What's the other part of AGW?


You tell us. Show us the proof. Correlation isn't causation.

Remember that graph I showed from NOAA climate at a glance?

10 years flat. And all the while burgeoning CO2. How did that happen?

How does CO2 cause cooling in Antarctica? The magic gas.
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