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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98973	Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge Reply #450 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:23am freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:48am: Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics. Don't want to answer the question, eh? Now why is that?
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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #451 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:28am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:57am:

yeah, i would say the muslim terrorists arent the major concern.

i would think the extreme left are more of a concern.

anti-fa look to be the military force of the radical left and the radical left seem to be taking over the universities and the democratic party.

people like hilary and barak were pretty moderate and sought to bring about socialist change slowly.

but the radicals and the activists seem to believe that the capitalist system is rotten to the core and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up.

and when i look into the eyes of the anti fa protestors, i see ideological possession.

the left and the right are no longer able to talk to each other and social media is rewarding outrage and extremism.

you can see this in a microcosm on this board.

gweg and the mechanic , for instance , get a lot of feedback for becoming more and more extreme .
and social media rewards outrage and extremeism, thats how you get a hit.

trump cottoned onto this but i think the donald is not possessed. he just uses the medium to his advantage.
but a lot of dumb lefties and a lot of dumb righties are going to become more and more extreme.

we are going to see some acts of terrorism in the west played out by the ultra left and the ultra right will come and play ball.

all in all its a bad scenario.

but if the democrats dont kick the radicals out of their party, they will become possessed.
that will lead to very very dark places.

i think trump will be delighted.
he loves a fight.
he is stirring the hornets nest of leftie lunacy and the moderate liberals are to weak to bring the activists into line

I don't think the IRA qualify as the extreme left, Aquascoot. Greek anarchists maybe, but are anarchists even of the left?

Some say they're cut from the same cloth as libertarians. Friedrich Hayek, for example, was a conservative anarchist, and he was one of Margaret Thatcher's biggest influences.

I'd say your Muselman is about as reactionary as they come.

You?

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #453 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:57am

Karnal wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:28am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:57am:

yeah, i would say the muslim terrorists arent the major concern.

i would think the extreme left are more of a concern.

anti-fa look to be the military force of the radical left and the radical left seem to be taking over the universities and the democratic party.

people like hilary and barak were pretty moderate and sought to bring about socialist change slowly.

but the radicals and the activists seem to believe that the capitalist system is rotten to the core and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up.

and when i look into the eyes of the anti fa protestors, i see ideological possession.

the left and the right are no longer able to talk to each other and social media is rewarding outrage and extremism.

you can see this in a microcosm on this board.

gweg and the mechanic , for instance , get a lot of feedback for becoming more and more extreme .
and social media rewards outrage and extremeism, thats how you get a hit.

trump cottoned onto this but i think the donald is not possessed. he just uses the medium to his advantage.
but a lot of dumb lefties and a lot of dumb righties are going to become more and more extreme.

we are going to see some acts of terrorism in the west played out by the ultra left and the ultra right will come and play ball.

all in all its a bad scenario.

but if the democrats dont kick the radicals out of their party, they will become possessed.
that will lead to very very dark places.

i think trump will be delighted.
he loves a fight.
he is stirring the hornets nest of leftie lunacy and the moderate liberals are to weak to bring the activists into line

I don't think the IRA qualify as the extreme left, Aquascoot. Greek anarchists maybe, but are anarchists even of the left?

Some say they're cut from the same cloth as libertarians. Friedrich Hayek, for example, was a conservative anarchist, and he was one of Margaret Thatcher's biggest influences.

I'd say your Muselman is about as reactionary as they come.

You?

i think in western democracies, the anarchists are mainly from the left.
people with antisocial tendencies and with personality disorders dont do well in a western democracy.
and they become bitter and resentful .
they could try to struggle up the "narrow road to success" but its just a lot easier to tear things down then to build slowly and carefully.

the pandering to them by left wing politicians merely fuels their ideology.
and identity politics ensures that there is an ever increasing supply of angry disaffected victims.
its very dangerous.

ask this 70 yo guy who gets detroyed whilst portlands police sit back and watch.
a surreal scenario for 2018 america.

start at about 2minutes 30 if you like Wink

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #454 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 9:25am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:57am:

Karnal wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:28am:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:57am:

yeah, i would say the muslim terrorists arent the major concern.

i would think the extreme left are more of a concern.

anti-fa look to be the military force of the radical left and the radical left seem to be taking over the universities and the democratic party.

people like hilary and barak were pretty moderate and sought to bring about socialist change slowly.

but the radicals and the activists seem to believe that the capitalist system is rotten to the core and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt from the ground up.

and when i look into the eyes of the anti fa protestors, i see ideological possession.

the left and the right are no longer able to talk to each other and social media is rewarding outrage and extremism.

you can see this in a microcosm on this board.

gweg and the mechanic , for instance , get a lot of feedback for becoming more and more extreme .
and social media rewards outrage and extremeism, thats how you get a hit.

trump cottoned onto this but i think the donald is not possessed. he just uses the medium to his advantage.
but a lot of dumb lefties and a lot of dumb righties are going to become more and more extreme.

we are going to see some acts of terrorism in the west played out by the ultra left and the ultra right will come and play ball.

all in all its a bad scenario.

but if the democrats dont kick the radicals out of their party, they will become possessed.
that will lead to very very dark places.

i think trump will be delighted.
he loves a fight.
he is stirring the hornets nest of leftie lunacy and the moderate liberals are to weak to bring the activists into line

I don't think the IRA qualify as the extreme left, Aquascoot. Greek anarchists maybe, but are anarchists even of the left?

Some say they're cut from the same cloth as libertarians. Friedrich Hayek, for example, was a conservative anarchist, and he was one of Margaret Thatcher's biggest influences.

I'd say your Muselman is about as reactionary as they come.

You?

i think in western democracies, the anarchists are mainly from the left.
people with antisocial tendencies and with personality disorders dont do well in a western democracy.
and they become bitter and resentful .
they could try to struggle up the "narrow road to success" but its just a lot easier to tear things down then to build slowly and carefully.

the pandering to them by left wing politicians merely fuels their ideology.
and identity politics ensures that there is an ever increasing supply of angry disaffected victims.
its very dangerous.

ask this 70 yo guy who gets detroyed whilst portlands police sit back and watch.
a surreal scenario for 2018 america.

start at about 2minutes 30 if you like Wink

What happened before that, though?

Did he mount the kerb and try to run people down with his car?

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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #455 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 9:26am

aquascoot wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:57am:

i would think the extreme left are more of a concern.

anti-fa look to be the military force of the radical left and the radical left seem to be taking over the universities and the democratic party.

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Antifa cadres and sympathisers are being used and deceived.

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Reply #456 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 9:43am

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Reply #457 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:40am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:48am:

Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.

Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?

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Reply #458 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:51pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:40am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:48am:

Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.

Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?

I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.

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Reply #459 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:51pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:40am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:48am:

Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.

Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?

I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.

Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading?

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Reply #460 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 1:16pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:51pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:40am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:48am:

Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.

Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?

I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.

Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading?

I'm sure Yadda would agree with me when I say that every attack by terrorists is a terrorist attack.

Would you agree too, FD?

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Reply #461 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 2:43pm

I take it these are the "graffiti" - or is it "paint bomb"? attacks FD keeps referring to:

Edited:

Attack methodologies and capabilities
used by DRs vary across the groups
with many attacks involving firearms
or small improvised explosive devices
such as pipe bombs. They have,
however, also deployed larger and/or
potentially more destructive devices
such as vehicle borne improvised
explosive devices (VBIED) and
explosively formed projectiles.

see? Just harmless pranks innit.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #462 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 2:47pm

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:51pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 12:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 7:40am:

freediver wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 6:48am:

Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.

Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?

I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.

Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading?

Possibly FD. Similar to pretending that actual attacks using actual bombs, including vehicle borne ones are in fact graffiti and paint bombs - wouldn't you say?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #463 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 3:19pm

Jihadist = 16%"

"Separatist = 67%"

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

Why are muslims and leftards trying to muddy the waters?

Has Europol got it wrong? I don't think so.

Facts are the major terrorist concern is islamic terrorism.

muslims are responsible for nearly all of the deaths, muslims are responsible for most of the casualties.

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Reply #464 - Oct 15^th, 2018 at 3:45pm

moses wrote on Oct 15^th, 2018 at 3:19pm:

Jihadist = 16%"

"Separatist = 67%"

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.

Why are muslims and leftards trying to muddy the waters?

Has Europol got it wrong? I don't think so.

Facts are the major terrorist concern is islamic terrorism.

muslims are responsible for nearly all of the deaths, muslims are responsible for most of the casualties.

No muddying of any waters.

The thread title (started by an Islamophobe) is "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge".

And, the 2018 Europol report clearly states that the majority of terrorist attacks were indeed carried out by non-Muslims.

Jihadists = 16%

Everyone else = 84%.

In the 2017 report, Jihadists were only responsible for 9%.

Crystal clear - no mud in sight.

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