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Reply #465 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm
 
The leftard  / muslim tactic at the moment is to use misleading and misrepresentative facts.

Definition of misrepresent
1/. to give a false or misleading representation of usually with an intent to deceive or be unfair

2/. to serve badly or improperly as a representative of

Definition of mislead
1/.to lead in a wrong direction or into a mistaken action or belief often by deliberate deceit

2/. to lead astray : give a wrong impression

The leftard is using his facts which are misleading and misrepresentative.

The leftard is desperate to purposely hide the Europol report which categorically states: 

Europol Terrorism Report:

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


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Reply #466 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:37pm
 
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Reply #467 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:54pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 4:36pm:
The leftard  / muslim tactic at the moment is to use misleading and misrepresentative facts.

Definition of misrepresent
1/. to give a false or misleading representation of usually with an intent to deceive or be unfair

2/. to serve badly or improperly as a representative of

Definition of mislead
1/.to lead in a wrong direction or into a mistaken action or belief often by deliberate deceit

2/. to lead astray : give a wrong impression

The leftard is using his facts which are misleading and misrepresentative.

The leftard is desperate to purposely hide the Europol report which categorically states: 

Europol Terrorism Report:

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.




No misleading or misrepresentative facts.

Good to see you acknowledge that they are indeed facts, though.

The thread title (started by an Islamophobe) is "Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge".

And, the 2018 Europol report clearly states that the majority of terrorist attacks were indeed carried out by non-Muslims.

Jihadists = 16%

Everyone else = 84%.

In the 2017 report, Jihadists were only responsible for 9%.

Nothing misleading there - just the facts, ma'am.

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Reply #468 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 5:03pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:51pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 12:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 7:40am:
freediver wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 6:48am:
Greg is now afraid to think for himself on this. All he can do is copy and paste misleading statistics.


Are the stats accurate?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


I have no idea if they are accurate Greg.

Do you think they are misleading, or are you too scared to have your own opinion?


I believe them to be accurate (unless someone can prove otherwise).

I don't find them misleading at all - it clearly shows that the majority of terrorist attacks in Europe are carried out by non-Muslims.

Moreover, so does the 2017 report - only 9% of attacks are attributed to Jihadists in 2016.


Do you think that statistics that equate 9/11 style attacks with attacks with no injuries are likely to be misleading?


Greggery's evading you here, FD (too scared). What he meant to say is why would a 2017 report on European terrorism compare a 2001 attack on the US?

Do you think it the statistics would be more accurate if they omitted non-Muslim attacks?

Don't answer that.
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Reply #469 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm
 
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/2018-ATA---Unclassified...

Terrorism in Australia
The violent ideology of Sunni Islamist terrorist groups—such as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and al-Qa'ida—continues to appeal to a small number of people in Australia. These groups use the power of the internet to spread their propaganda to an existing audience and also aim it at those susceptible to radicalisation. The broad body of terrorist propaganda continues to grow. Some propaganda releases specifically celebrate previous terrorist attacks including the methods and tactics used in attacks, while others feature tailored messaging that references specific countries or individuals. Australia continues to be specifically mentioned in some pro-ISIL propaganda—these releases add to a large body of material that encourages terrorism. While a single piece of propaganda, or mention of Australia, is unlikely to be the sole catalyst for an onshore attack it can offer inspiration, guidance and instructions that may appeal to individuals willing to use violence. The impact of the actions of even one individual willing to use violence can be significant and is clearly evident in the terrorist attacks that have occurred in Australia since 2014.

The primary terrorist threat in Australia is from a small number of Islamist extremists, principally lone actors or small groups. While we must be prepared for more complex attack plots, simple attack methodologies that enable individuals to act independently and with a high degree of agility remain the more likely form of terrorism in Australia. The simple nature of these attacks means preparation may not involve activity that will come to the attention of authorities—meaning there is no guarantee of early detection or disruption. Many Islamist terrorist attacks and plots aim to inflict maximum casualties or indiscriminately target members of the public and attackers often aim to be killed during their attack.

The lone actor threat is not confined to Islamist extremists. Individuals motivated by other ideological agendas could also consider conducting an act of terrorism; the 2016 arrest and subsequent terrorism-related charges against a right-wing lone actor in Melbourne reinforces this threat.
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Securityandyourcommunity/Pages/National-Terr...


Europe faces a persistent threat from Islamist terrorism.[1] It is one that has increased with the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), the al-Qaeda offshoot that now controls significant parts of Iraq and Syria. The director of Europol recently described the current situation as “the highest terrorist threat we have faced for over 10 years.”[2] These security concerns are being exacerbated by unprecedented levels of migration into Europe from impoverished and/or war-torn areas of the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans, with ISIS known to have targeted such routes for infiltration.
https://www.heritage.org/terrorism/report/the-threat-islamist-terrorism-europe-a...



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Re: Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge
Reply #470 - Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:33pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/2018-ATA---Unclassified...

Terrorism in Australia
The violent ideology of Sunni Islamist terrorist groups—such as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and al-Qa'ida—continues to appeal to a small number of people in Australia. These groups use the power of the internet to spread their propaganda to an existing audience and also aim it at those susceptible to radicalisation. The broad body of terrorist propaganda continues to grow. Some propaganda releases specifically celebrate previous terrorist attacks including the methods and tactics used in attacks, while others feature tailored messaging that references specific countries or individuals. Australia continues to be specifically mentioned in some pro-ISIL propaganda—these releases add to a large body of material that encourages terrorism. While a single piece of propaganda, or mention of Australia, is unlikely to be the sole catalyst for an onshore attack it can offer inspiration, guidance and instructions that may appeal to individuals willing to use violence. The impact of the actions of even one individual willing to use violence can be significant and is clearly evident in the terrorist attacks that have occurred in Australia since 2014.

The primary terrorist threat in Australia is from a small number of Islamist extremists, principally lone actors or small groups. While we must be prepared for more complex attack plots, simple attack methodologies that enable individuals to act independently and with a high degree of agility remain the more likely form of terrorism in Australia. The simple nature of these attacks means preparation may not involve activity that will come to the attention of authorities—meaning there is no guarantee of early detection or disruption. Many Islamist terrorist attacks and plots aim to inflict maximum casualties or indiscriminately target members of the public and attackers often aim to be killed during their attack.

The lone actor threat is not confined to Islamist extremists. Individuals motivated by other ideological agendas could also consider conducting an act of terrorism; the 2016 arrest and subsequent terrorism-related charges against a right-wing lone actor in Melbourne reinforces this threat.
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Securityandyourcommunity/Pages/National-Terr...


Europe faces a persistent threat from Islamist terrorism.[1] It is one that has increased with the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), the al-Qaeda offshoot that now controls significant parts of Iraq and Syria. The director of Europol recently described the current situation as “the highest terrorist threat we have faced for over 10 years.”[2] These security concerns are being exacerbated by unprecedented levels of migration into Europe from impoverished and/or war-torn areas of the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans, with ISIS known to have targeted such routes for infiltration.
https://www.heritage.org/terrorism/report/the-threat-islamist-terrorism-europe-a...



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"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Is FD calling Europol liars?

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Reply #471 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 1:22am
 
Oh, old boy, I'm not sure why you're commenting on Australia, but your reactionary think tank article is just a commentary on Greggery's Europol report.

These things are known. Of course Jihadist terrorism is a major problem in Europe. We've already discussed the casualties, what more would you like to add?

Oh, that's right - bugger off, Turd. Good point.

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Reply #472 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 1:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/2018-ATA---Unclassified...

Terrorism in Australia
The violent ideology of Sunni Islamist terrorist groups—such as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and al-Qa'ida—continues to appeal to a small number of people in Australia. These groups use the power of the internet to spread their propaganda to an existing audience and also aim it at those susceptible to radicalisation. The broad body of terrorist propaganda continues to grow. Some propaganda releases specifically celebrate previous terrorist attacks including the methods and tactics used in attacks, while others feature tailored messaging that references specific countries or individuals. Australia continues to be specifically mentioned in some pro-ISIL propaganda—these releases add to a large body of material that encourages terrorism. While a single piece of propaganda, or mention of Australia, is unlikely to be the sole catalyst for an onshore attack it can offer inspiration, guidance and instructions that may appeal to individuals willing to use violence. The impact of the actions of even one individual willing to use violence can be significant and is clearly evident in the terrorist attacks that have occurred in Australia since 2014.

The primary terrorist threat in Australia is from a small number of Islamist extremists, principally lone actors or small groups. While we must be prepared for more complex attack plots, simple attack methodologies that enable individuals to act independently and with a high degree of agility remain the more likely form of terrorism in Australia. The simple nature of these attacks means preparation may not involve activity that will come to the attention of authorities—meaning there is no guarantee of early detection or disruption. Many Islamist terrorist attacks and plots aim to inflict maximum casualties or indiscriminately target members of the public and attackers often aim to be killed during their attack.

The lone actor threat is not confined to Islamist extremists. Individuals motivated by other ideological agendas could also consider conducting an act of terrorism; the 2016 arrest and subsequent terrorism-related charges against a right-wing lone actor in Melbourne reinforces this threat.
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Securityandyourcommunity/Pages/National-Terr...


Europe faces a persistent threat from Islamist terrorism.[1] It is one that has increased with the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), the al-Qaeda offshoot that now controls significant parts of Iraq and Syria. The director of Europol recently described the current situation as “the highest terrorist threat we have faced for over 10 years.”[2] These security concerns are being exacerbated by unprecedented levels of migration into Europe from impoverished and/or war-torn areas of the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans, with ISIS known to have targeted such routes for infiltration.
https://www.heritage.org/terrorism/report/the-threat-islamist-terrorism-europe-a...



Now bvgger off, turd.





"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Is FD calling Europol liars?



He said they're publishing "misleading" data, so yes. FD is indeed calling Europol liars.

I believe FD has alternative data. Something about graffiti.

Could you track this down and post it for him, please?

FD believes this educates you more than him spoon feeding you with his own arguments. You might like to argue FD's case yourself while you're at it - most educational. You can learn a lot this way.
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Reply #473 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:04pm
 
The leftard / muslim tactic at the moment is to use misleading and misrepresentative facts.

Definition of misrepresent
1/. to give a false or misleading representation of usually with an intent to deceive or be unfair

2/. to serve badly or improperly as a representative of

Definition of mislead
1/.to lead in a wrong direction or into a mistaken action or belief often by deliberate deceit

2/. to lead astray : give a wrong impression

The leftard is using his facts which are misleading and misrepresentative.

The leftard is desperate to purposely hide the Europol report which categorically states: 

Europol Terrorism Report:

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.


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Reply #474 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:29pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:04pm:
The leftard / muslim tactic at the moment is to use misleading and misrepresentative facts.

Definition of misrepresent
1/. to give a false or misleading representation of usually with an intent to deceive or be unfair

2/. to serve badly or improperly as a representative of

Definition of mislead
1/.to lead in a wrong direction or into a mistaken action or belief often by deliberate deceit

2/. to lead astray : give a wrong impression

The leftard is using his facts which are misleading and misrepresentative.

The leftard is desperate to purposely hide the Europol report which categorically states: 

Europol Terrorism Report:

The main concern of Member States is jihadist terrorism

Of the 12 trends identified in the latest TE-SAT, most related to jihadist terrorism.

nearly all reported fatalities and most of the casualties were the result of jihadist terrorist attacks.




Nothing misleading here:

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."
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Reply #475 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:39pm
 
Your example is by far outweighed by the facts that the threat level in Europe is acute, the main threat is jihadist terrorism and the highest number of fatalities and casualties are caused by jihadists.
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Reply #476 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 3:16pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:39pm:
Your example is by far outweighed by the facts that the threat level in Europe is acute, the main threat is jihadist terrorism and the highest number of fatalities and casualties are caused by jihadists.



Have you seen the thread title?

"Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge".

The Europol reports clearly and unambiguously confirms this claim.

Nothing misleading.

Just the facts.

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."
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Reply #477 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 5:45pm
 
moses wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:39pm:
Your example is by far outweighed by the facts that the threat level in Europe is acute, the main threat is jihadist terrorism and the highest number of fatalities and casualties are caused by jihadists.


At 16%.

Misleading data, innit.
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Reply #478 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 6:37pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 1:32am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:33pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 15th, 2018 at 8:29pm:
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/2018-ATA---Unclassified...

Terrorism in Australia
The violent ideology of Sunni Islamist terrorist groups—such as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and al-Qa'ida—continues to appeal to a small number of people in Australia. These groups use the power of the internet to spread their propaganda to an existing audience and also aim it at those susceptible to radicalisation. The broad body of terrorist propaganda continues to grow. Some propaganda releases specifically celebrate previous terrorist attacks including the methods and tactics used in attacks, while others feature tailored messaging that references specific countries or individuals. Australia continues to be specifically mentioned in some pro-ISIL propaganda—these releases add to a large body of material that encourages terrorism. While a single piece of propaganda, or mention of Australia, is unlikely to be the sole catalyst for an onshore attack it can offer inspiration, guidance and instructions that may appeal to individuals willing to use violence. The impact of the actions of even one individual willing to use violence can be significant and is clearly evident in the terrorist attacks that have occurred in Australia since 2014.

The primary terrorist threat in Australia is from a small number of Islamist extremists, principally lone actors or small groups. While we must be prepared for more complex attack plots, simple attack methodologies that enable individuals to act independently and with a high degree of agility remain the more likely form of terrorism in Australia. The simple nature of these attacks means preparation may not involve activity that will come to the attention of authorities—meaning there is no guarantee of early detection or disruption. Many Islamist terrorist attacks and plots aim to inflict maximum casualties or indiscriminately target members of the public and attackers often aim to be killed during their attack.

The lone actor threat is not confined to Islamist extremists. Individuals motivated by other ideological agendas could also consider conducting an act of terrorism; the 2016 arrest and subsequent terrorism-related charges against a right-wing lone actor in Melbourne reinforces this threat.
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/Securityandyourcommunity/Pages/National-Terr...


Europe faces a persistent threat from Islamist terrorism.[1] It is one that has increased with the rise of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS), the al-Qaeda offshoot that now controls significant parts of Iraq and Syria. The director of Europol recently described the current situation as “the highest terrorist threat we have faced for over 10 years.”[2] These security concerns are being exacerbated by unprecedented levels of migration into Europe from impoverished and/or war-torn areas of the Middle East, Africa, and the Balkans, with ISIS known to have targeted such routes for infiltration.
https://www.heritage.org/terrorism/report/the-threat-islamist-terrorism-europe-a...



Now bvgger off, turd.





"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."


Is FD calling Europol liars?



He said they're publishing "misleading" data, so yes. FD is indeed calling Europol liars.

I believe FD has alternative data. Something about graffiti.

Could you track this down and post it for him, please?

FD believes this educates you more than him spoon feeding you with his own arguments. You might like to argue FD's case yourself while you're at it - most educational. You can learn a lot this way.



Needless to say, turd, that your quote occurs only on Ozpolitics as posted by you. Lying turd, I should say.  Say ppffftsss..to your Paki gobbler-upper.




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Reply #479 - Oct 16th, 2018 at 7:38pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 3:16pm:
moses wrote on Oct 16th, 2018 at 2:39pm:
Your example is by far outweighed by the facts that the threat level in Europe is acute, the main threat is jihadist terrorism and the highest number of fatalities and casualties are caused by jihadists.



Have you seen the thread title?

"Most terror attacks in Europe, non-moslem - gregge".

The Europol reports clearly and unambiguously confirms this claim.

Nothing misleading.

Just the facts.

"Ethno-nationalist and separatist terrorist attacks
continue to far outnumber attacks carried out by
violent extremists inspired by any other ideologies or
motivations."

You never include the link, Turd. We have all noticed.


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