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Reply #405 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:07pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 5:58pm:
And, of course, Lees ads to the nonsense. Nobody is talking about taking the sun. The point is—the sun is a very stable emitter of radiation. Even the occasional dip, a GSM, causes only minor fluctuation in temperatures here.

AGW has so far raised temperatures nearly 10 times the amount even a Maunder Minimum would cool things by.

1.2°C temperature increase v a 0.13°C cooling from a Maunder Minimum level GSM.

AGW has raised temperatures by over twice as much as things cooled in the Little Ice Age, 1.2°C versus a 0.5°C cooler times in the LIA.

That puts the sun in perspective I reckon!



Nope. You are confusing yourself. NOBODY (including "climate scientists") has said that AGW has raised the temp by 1.2°C. They (the "climate scientists") say that SOME of the temperature rise is due to CO2 (AGW). Even the IPCC said that there was no discernible temperature difference before the middle of the 20th Century. And then may be 0.5 of the increase after that.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2016/feb/02/climate-change-in-...
Which would make the graph from the garudian value it at 0.6-0.2 = 0.4/2 = 0.2C
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Reply #406 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:18pm
 
Why do you call the Guardian the “Garudian” Lees? When did they suffer from horrific typesetting? 40 years ago?

You think it is cool to keep calling it the “Garudian?” Weird.

Nope, the increase in temperature is pretty much all due to AGW, burning of fossil fuels, destroying carbon sinks and so on.

A Maunder Minimum would make a tiny and temporary blip—that destroys the bullshit preached by St Dubyne the Dubious, snake oil seller to Royalty  Smiley A new LIA would cool things a bit more but again, only temporarily.
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Reply #407 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:25pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Why do you call the Guardian the “Garudian” Lees?



Because it is a rag. Because people like you love it. Wink

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
You think it is cool to keep calling it the “Garudian?” Weird.


Nope. Was it ever cool to call the garudian cool? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:18pm:
Nope, the increase in temperature is pretty much all due to AGW, burning of fossil fuels, destroying carbon sinks and so on.


So you disagree with the "climate science". Well that makes two of us. Wink

So tell us about Australia, that large carbon sink, and how it is getting "hotter" in spite of that. Wink
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Reply #408 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:38pm
 
The “Garudian” was a tag way back last century. You think it is still cool, I guess.

Yes, I have quoted extracts from some Guardian articles, usually because the relevant scientific paper needs $$$ to buy and I have better uses for my money.

Nope, pretty much all the warming is AGW. Remember that the sun dropped its level of emitted radiation slightly in the 1980s and a LOT of warming took place after that.

Pretty clear, most of the warming is AGW.
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Reply #409 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:48pm
 
And Booby can’t point to where an ice age exists in the temperature charts.

No wonder, solid increase in temperature, especially since the 1980s despite the sun slightly dropping the amount of radiation it emits from then. Even Dubyne commented on the slight drop in TSI in the 1980s, of course getting everything wrong about it, as usual, but posted about the drop in TSI.

Booby takes refuge in “temperature readings are rigged.” St Dubyne the Dubious tried that too, both examples he gave were proven not to be rigged readings. Seems he can’t read tables of temperatures  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Neither the BoM nor the De Bilt weather station in Holland faked readings. Dubyne only talks in general terms about rigging the data now  Smiley after having his arse handed to him twice.

What was Environment is more like another Fringe board!
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Reply #410 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 7:08pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 6:38pm:
Nope, pretty much all the warming is AGW.



Yeah. You said that. Of course it is completely off kilter with the "climate scientists" so it is just your opinion.
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Reply #411 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 7:14pm
 
So. Seeing as the data is pristine and NOT tampered with -

How come globally 1997 temperature is given as 62.45ºF and was at that time the "hottest evah" and 2016 was 58.69ºF and is still considered the "hottest evah"?

How can a temperature drop of 3.76ºF possibly become a "hottest year evah"?
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Reply #412 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 7:15pm
 
So, less TSI but we warmed quite a bit since the 1980s. Magic explain that?

Poor Booby, Bremen University has some bad news for the dupe:

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Bit of a plunge in ice extent there!

Bremen university is huge and highly regarded: https://seaice.uni-bremen.de/

NSIDC shows a slowdown in the growth of ice:
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Reply #413 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 7:22pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 7:15pm:
Poor Booby, Bremen University has some bad news for the dupe:




That isn't reflected on NSIDC. Why have you changed your source? merely to make it seem worse?

it also doesn't show on DMI.
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Reply #414 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 7:43pm
 
Doesn’t mean it is wrong, I did say the NSIDC shows a slowdown in ice growth.

We will see if the others show the same thing.
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Reply #415 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:43pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 7:43pm:
]Doesn’t mean it is wrong[/highlight], I did say the NSIDC shows a slowdown in ice growth.

We will see if the others show the same thing.


Doesn't mean it is right either. 2 to 1.
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Reply #416 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm
 
Ahahahaha I was always doubtful of it, only posted it to throw a scare into Booby.

They have said there was a glitch on 22/4, will be redone by tomorrow morning our time.
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Reply #417 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:48pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Ahahahaha I was always doubtful of it, only posted it to throw a scare into Booby.



yeah Sure. UHUH. Why is it with your constant misstatements people doubt you?
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Reply #418 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:18pm
 
Have you had your sense of humor surgically removed, Lees? Or were you born without one?
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Reply #419 - Apr 24th, 2018 at 9:28pm
 
As to misrepresentation, I did post another graph in that post.

Sounds like you are a liar, just like Dubyne the Ridiculous. Most of your attempts to rebut my posts are ridiculous. I posted, back a few months, a study on rising sea levels based on tide gauge data and you posted some crap about satellite data. I really did have a good laugh at that.

Lees the Liar.

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