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Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:18pm
 

"In Australia we don't tip.

"And if we do, it's for excellent service only.

"And the reason we don't tip is because we respect hospitality workers and believe they should be paid accordingly."


Yes!

"Australia has a high-wage, high-price system.

"Thanks to our robust industrial relations system and strong unions, the cost of good wages and conditions are included in the sticker price.

"And that's the way we like it. 

"This ethos is one of the reasons we demanded the GST be included in the on-the-shelf price.

"It's why we happily pay a significant Medicare levy for universal health care.

"Simple, direct, fair – that's the Australian way.

"Tipping undermines all of this."

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Reply #1 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:27pm
 
I can think of one place where we tip based on service.
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Reply #2 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:29pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:27pm:
I can think of one place where we tip based on service.


Where?

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Reply #3 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:57pm
 
Political staffers should live on tips from delivering messages around their master's fiefdom..... rather than doing an Incredible Credlin and trying to order the show around.

Behind every political appointment stands a Fascist closet.................
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Reply #4 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:27pm
 

"A tipping culture means customers are picking up the wages tab for the owner.

"And because you can only pay a tip if you're in the venue, it leaves workers with less security at work.

"Tips are unpredictable and unevenly spread, contributing to inequality.

"If the business is quiet, workers don't get paid.

"This is not an agreement between workers and business we should ever feel comfortable with in Australia.

"Business owners take risks in exchange for potentially healthy profits; workers give up their time in exchange for reliable wages.

"That's the Australian deal."


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Reply #5 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:36pm
 
Tightarse
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Reply #6 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:37pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:36pm:
Tightarse


I'm sure Booby will send you a PM shortly, then.

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Reply #7 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:39pm
 
Tipping has spread with the rise of the middle-class, in service industries, mostly in countries traditionally associated with unfair labor practices and corruption.

I don't believe the popular wisdom that the Australian reluctance to tip has anything to do with ethos. It is an attitude that was inherited from Britain long before the wages explosion beginning in the 1960s, before which, most people lived "from hand to mouth," and did not use service industries to any great extent. The British and Australian working class did not eat in restaurants other than basic "cafes." They travel by bus, and they counted their pennies when, on rare occasions, they had to take a cab. We simply did not have the money to tip.
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issuevoter wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
Tipping has spread with the rise of the middle-class, in service industries, mostly in countries traditionally associated with unfair labor practices and corruption.

I don't believe the popular wisdom that the Australian reluctance to tip has anything to do with ethos. It is an attitude that was inherited from Britain long before the wages explosion beginning in the 1960s, before which, most people lived "from hand to mouth," and did not use service industries to any great extent. The British and Australia working class did not eat in restaurants other than basic "cafes." They travel by bus, and they counted their pennies when, on rare occasions, they had to take a cab.


It has no place in Australia.

People who tip at coffee shops and restaurants in this country are pretentious arseholes.

Do they tip their garbage collector, or bottle shop attendant, or the person who serves them at Bunnings?

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Reply #9 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:49pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
Tipping has spread with the rise of the middle-class, in service industries, mostly in countries traditionally associated with unfair labor practices and corruption.

I don't believe the popular wisdom that the Australian reluctance to tip has anything to do with ethos. It is an attitude that was inherited from Britain long before the wages explosion beginning in the 1960s, before which, most people lived "from hand to mouth," and did not use service industries to any great extent. The British and Australia working class did not eat in restaurants other than basic "cafes." They travel by bus, and they counted their pennies when, on rare occasions, they had to take a cab.


It has no place in Australia.

People who tip at coffee shops and restaurants in this country are pretentious arseholes.

Do they tip their garbage collector, or bottle shop attendant, or the person who serves them at Bunnings?



I left 4 x 50ml bottles of mixed spirits for the garbos fot xmas this year and I always tip low wage earners when I can.

God you're a tightarse.
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Reply #10 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:52pm
 
We always put together a good tip for the waitresses  when we  go out  for dinner at some place nice. If they keep my drinks coming I'm happy. They don't earn that much.
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Reply #11 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:52pm
 
Perhaps he is jealous. I rarely tip myself, but I cannot imagine actually being hostile to the people who do.
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Reply #12 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:56pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:49pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:42pm:
issuevoter wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
Tipping has spread with the rise of the middle-class, in service industries, mostly in countries traditionally associated with unfair labor practices and corruption.

I don't believe the popular wisdom that the Australian reluctance to tip has anything to do with ethos. It is an attitude that was inherited from Britain long before the wages explosion beginning in the 1960s, before which, most people lived "from hand to mouth," and did not use service industries to any great extent. The British and Australia working class did not eat in restaurants other than basic "cafes." They travel by bus, and they counted their pennies when, on rare occasions, they had to take a cab.


It has no place in Australia.

People who tip at coffee shops and restaurants in this country are pretentious arseholes.

Do they tip their garbage collector, or bottle shop attendant, or the person who serves them at Bunnings?



I left 4 x 50ml bottles of mixed spirits for the garbos fot xmas this year and I always tip low wage earners when I can.

God you're a tightarse.


No you don't.

You're a liar.

You don't tip the checkout chick at Coles (low wage earners).

You don't tip the workers at Bunnings (low wage earners).

You don't tip the workers at McDonald's (low wage earners).

You don't tip the workers at the sports store where you buy your kettle weights (low wage earners).

You don't tip the workers at Bett's when you buy shoes (low wage earners).

You don't tip the workers at your local chemist when you pick up your Viagra (low wage earners).

You don't tip the workers at Australia Post (low wage earners).

You don't tip the workers at JB HiFi when you buy your Taylor Swift CDs (low wage earners).

You don't tip the workers at David Jones when you buy your wife a frypan for Christmas (VERY low wage earners).

You only tip at restaurants, because you're a pretentious arsehole who likes to show off in front of the person you're dining with.







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Reply #13 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:57pm
 
freediver wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:52pm:
Perhaps he is jealous. I rarely tip myself, but I cannot imagine actually being hostile to the people who do.


Union arseholes not only want to be the sole conduit between employers and employees but they aim to cause hostility between them to justify their parisitic existence.
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Reply #14 - Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:58pm
 
I tip for exceptionally good service especially when I'm made to feel confortable in an intimate situation such as a barber's chair or someone else's cab. Anyone can provide a personal service. Only a fraction can really make a customer feel confortable at the same time.
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