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Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:29am
 
Thousands of crown-of-thorns starfish are understood to be eating their way through coral in a major outbreak at the southern end of the Great Barrier Reef, as authorities consider how to tackle the problem.

The outbreak on the Swain Reefs off Yeppoon was discovered last year, but the area is remote and hostile, hampering efforts to control the spread of the coral-killing marine animal.

The Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority (GBRMPA) has confirmed it has been working out how to deal with the outbreak since last year.

The starfish is native to the reef but when numbers explode, the results can be devastating, as thousands of the creatures munch their way through the coral.
Typically scientists link outbreaks of the crown-of-thorns starfish to spikes in ocean nutrients caused by coastal and agricultural run-off into the ocean.

For that reason outbreaks are usually further north and closer to the coast, but the Swain Reefs are a long way offshore and on the southern end of the reef, so it is not known what caused the outbreak.

The crown-of-thorns outbreak puts more strain on a Great Barrier Reef system that has seen two consecutive years of mass coral bleaching from ocean warming.

An international study, published today in the prestigious Science journal, warned that the window of time for saving the world's reefs from coral bleaching was closing.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-05/great-barrier-reef-crown-of-thorns-starfis...
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Reply #1 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:15pm
 


No doubt farmers will kill the reef long before coal mining will even get a look in


But ban adani by all means, even get the farmer to help.




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Reply #2 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:19pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
No doubt farmers will kill the reef long before coal mining will even get a look in





Yea kick the farmers.  Everything is their fault.

Not the urban people pumping out CO2 like there is no tomorrow.
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Reply #3 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:58pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:29am:
Typically scientists link outbreaks of the crown-of-thorns starfish to spikes in ocean nutrients caused by coastal and agricultural run-off into the ocean.



"Sewage and agricultural runoff going into the oceans may increase the likelihood of COTS outbreaks,” said Bruckner. "

https://www.livingoceansfoundation.org/science/crown-of-thorns-starfish/coral-ki...

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 10:29am:
For that reason outbreaks are usually further north and closer to the coast, but the Swain Reefs are a long way offshore and on the southern end of the reef, so it is not known what caused the outbreak.


Sh!t, there goes the nutrient run-off theory in this case.
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Reply #4 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm
 
when we first came here they were blaming the Crown of Thorns.. no one had heard of CC back then...

then all of a sudden  one can only presume they all died  as they stopped talking about the Crown of thorns..

now they call it  The outbreak

so where have all these little beggars been in the last 50 years?...
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Reply #5 - Jan 6th, 2018 at 3:01pm
 
hatman92 wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 1:19pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 12:15pm:
No doubt farmers will kill the reef long before coal mining will even get a look in





Yea kick the farmers.  Everything is their fault.

Not the urban people pumping out CO2 like there is no tomorrow.



Nup
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Reply #6 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 10:37am
 
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
when we first came here they were blaming the Crown of Thorns.. no one had heard of CC back then...

then all of a sudden  one can only presume they all died  as they stopped talking about the Crown of thorns..

now they call it  The outbreak

so where have all these little beggars been in the last 50 years?...


On healthy coral reefs, the coral-eating starfish plays an important role, as it tends to feed on the fastest growing corals such as staghorn and plate corals, allowing slower growing coral species to form colonies. This helps increase coral diversity. However, outbreaks of the venomous starfish pose one of the most significant threats to the Great Barrier Reef.

Cyclic outbreaks of the crown-of-thorns starfish occur approximately every 17 years. There have been four documented outbreaks on the Great Barrier Reef since the 1960s.

http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/about-the-reef/animals/crown-of-thorns-starfish

So in answer to your question cods, they have plagues of them. Much like locusts
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Reply #7 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 10:40am
 


Surely we can organise loads of Jap tourists to come down and eat them?

They eat anything with seafood flavour.
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Reply #8 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 8:00pm
 
The most notable predator of the crown of thorns starfish is the Giant Triton. Tritons eat about 2 or 3 crown of thorns starfish per week. But Tritons are too few in number to keep the crown of thorns starfish population down. According to researchers, they want to release Tritons in regions of the Great Barrier Reef that are accessible. If researchers can breed enough adult Tritons to release into the GBR, then Triton numbers could flourish, and COTS numbers can be controlled.

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Reply #10 - Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:22pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 8:00pm:
According to researchers, they want to release Tritons in regions of the Great Barrier Reef that are accessible. If researchers can breed enough adult Tritons to release into the GBR, then Triton numbers could flourish, and COTS numbers can be controlled.



Are there any natural predators of the Triton? What else do they eat?
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Are there any natural predators of the Triton? What else do they eat?


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Reply #12 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 12:29am
 
lee wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:22pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 8:00pm:
According to researchers, they want to release Tritons in regions of the Great Barrier Reef that are accessible. If researchers can breed enough adult Tritons to release into the GBR, then Triton numbers could flourish, and COTS numbers can be controlled.


Are there any natural predators of the Triton? What else do they eat?


After a quick look, there is no information about what could eat the Triton Snail. Perhaps the shell is sufficient protection for it to live unchallenged. The snail might only get eaten by smaller microorganisms after it dies. Hopefully, the Triton can flourish along the Great Barrier Reef in the very near future.
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Reply #13 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:19am
 
miketrees wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:32pm:
lee wrote on Jan 7th, 2018 at 9:22pm:
Are there any natural predators of the Triton? What else do they eat


Cane Beetles



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Reply #14 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:49am
 
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
when we first came here they were blaming the Crown of Thorns.. no one had heard of CC back then...

then all of a sudden  one can only presume they all died  as they stopped talking about the Crown of thorns..

now they call it  The outbreak

so where have all these little beggars been in the last 50 years?...

LOL
For True Believers cods everything bad is due to Climate Change. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #15 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:24am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 12:29am:
After a quick look, there is no information about what could eat the Triton Snail. Perhaps the shell is sufficient protection for it to live unchallenged. The snail might only get eaten by smaller microorganisms after it dies. Hopefully, the Triton can flourish along the Great Barrier Reef in the very near future.


So having decimated the crown-of-thorns starfish, to what do they turn their attention? Or do they simply die off? Do we exchange one perceived problem for another?
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Reply #16 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:44am
 
Grendel wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:49am:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
when we first came here they were blaming the Crown of Thorns.. no one had heard of CC back then...

then all of a sudden  one can only presume they all died  as they stopped talking about the Crown of thorns..

now they call it  The outbreak

so where have all these little beggars been in the last 50 years?...

LOL
For True Believers cods everything bad is due to Climate Change. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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No you are wrong again Grendel
COT plagues have nothing to do with climate change
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Reply #17 - Jan 8th, 2018 at 9:37pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:24am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 12:29am:
After a quick look, there is no information about what could eat the Triton Snail. Perhaps the shell is sufficient protection for it to live unchallenged. The snail might only get eaten by smaller microorganisms after it dies. Hopefully, the Triton can flourish along the Great Barrier Reef in the very near future.


So having decimated the crown-of-thorns starfish, to what do they turn their attention? Or do they simply die off? Do we exchange one perceived problem for another?


To my knowledge, the Triton have been living along the Great Barrier Reef for centuries. Do some research on what else these snails eat. I would be very sure that these snails have done the right thing by the reef and the ecosystem, until people came along and starting picking up the shells for the purpose of using them as gifts. This collection of shells impede the Triton to reproduce on the beach. This is why we saw a significant decline in Triton numbers.

We will not see significant decline in Crown of Thorn Starfish numbers until the Triton can repopulate sufficiently to get through the massive number of COTS. This may take decades until we see COTS practically extinct. But, since the Triton are native to this region, it should not be a problem.
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Reply #18 - Jan 9th, 2018 at 7:45am
 
Grendel wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:49am:
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Nah it is all due to farmers. We should handle them Zimbabwe style. That would solve all Australia's problems.
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Reply #19 - Jan 11th, 2018 at 10:21pm
 
Did anyone else feel really excited by the video footage of Tritons eating the wretched Crown of Thorns Starfish? Like, we have some sort of cure for our problems?
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Reply #20 - Jan 21st, 2018 at 9:20am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:44am:
Grendel wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:49am:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
when we first came here they were blaming the Crown of Thorns.. no one had heard of CC back then...

then all of a sudden  one can only presume they all died  as they stopped talking about the Crown of thorns..

now they call it  The outbreak

so where have all these little beggars been in the last 50 years?...

LOL
For True Believers cods everything bad is due to Climate Change. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Go figure.


No you are wrong again Grendel
COT plagues have nothing to do with climate change

  due to my limited knowledge of marine life- I think COT are merely a symptom of an ailing /sick reef- when the reefs defences are down or sick as it is now these nasty things move in- it would seem- so in effect climate change is to blame as Climate change weakens the reef

I thought the Tritons eating COT was heartening and could well be a cure for this problem in the future but then apple cider vinegar is a cure for most things so I have great faith in that and bi carb soda combo to take these things out
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Reply #21 - Jan 21st, 2018 at 9:51am
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 21st, 2018 at 9:20am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:44am:
Grendel wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:49am:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
when we first came here they were blaming the Crown of Thorns.. no one had heard of CC back then...

then all of a sudden  one can only presume they all died  as they stopped talking about the Crown of thorns..

now they call it  The outbreak

so where have all these little beggars been in the last 50 years?...

LOL
For True Believers cods everything bad is due to Climate Change. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Go figure.


No you are wrong again Grendel
COT plagues have nothing to do with climate change

  due to my limited knowledge of marine life- I think COT are merely a symptom of an ailing /sick reef- when the reefs defences are down or sick as it is now these nasty things move in- it would seem- so in effect climate change is to blame as Climate change weakens the reef

I thought the Tritons eating COT was heartening and could well be a cure for this problem in the future but then apple cider vinegar is a cure for most things so I have great faith in that and bi carb soda combo to take these things out



Try millions and  millions of tonnes of top soil, pesticides and fertiliser pouring onto the reef from thousands of farms along the QLD coast and inland.


This has been happening for decades but in order to 'maintain the rage' against climate change the lie needs to be oft repeated until it is 'fact'.


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Reply #22 - Jan 21st, 2018 at 9:57am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Jan 21st, 2018 at 9:51am:
Agnes wrote on Jan 21st, 2018 at 9:20am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 10:44am:
Grendel wrote on Jan 8th, 2018 at 7:49am:
cods wrote on Jan 6th, 2018 at 2:48pm:
when we first came here they were blaming the Crown of Thorns.. no one had heard of CC back then...

then all of a sudden  one can only presume they all died  as they stopped talking about the Crown of thorns..

now they call it  The outbreak

so where have all these little beggars been in the last 50 years?...

LOL
For True Believers cods everything bad is due to Climate Change. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Go figure.


No you are wrong again Grendel
COT plagues have nothing to do with climate change

  due to my limited knowledge of marine life- I think COT are merely a symptom of an ailing /sick reef- when the reefs defences are down or sick as it is now these nasty things move in- it would seem- so in effect climate change is to blame as Climate change weakens the reef

I thought the Tritons eating COT was heartening and could well be a cure for this problem in the future but then apple cider vinegar is a cure for most things so I have great faith in that and bi carb soda combo to take these things out



Try millions and  millions of tonnes of top soil, pesticides and fertiliser pouring onto the reef from thousands of farms along the QLD coast and inland.


This has been happening for decades but in order to 'maintain the rage' against climate change the lie needs to be oft repeated until it is 'fact'.




Agree.
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Reply #23 - Jan 21st, 2018 at 10:07am
 
thanks Big ole and that demonstrates that the problem is within our control although the lib govt have dedicated no serious energy or $ to eradicating and controlling the problem- instead appeasing  investors who want to rape and pillage the coast line- I have dived the reef QLD/Cook town region and it  was a sight to behold and the coral trout delicious -but  that beautiful eco system is under real threat and once gone- its gone- we want our children to enjoy it and their children and so on- so frustrating
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Reply #24 - Jan 21st, 2018 at 10:13am
 
Agnes wrote on Jan 21st, 2018 at 10:07am:
thanks Big ole and that demonstrates that the problem is within our control although the lib govt have dedicated no serious energy or $ to eradicating and controlling the problem- instead appeasing  investors who want to rape and pillage the coast line- I have dived the reef QLD/Cook town region and it  was a sight to behold and the coral trout delicious -but  that beautiful eco system is under real threat and once gone- its gone- we want our children to enjoy it and their children and so on- so frustrating



There is only so much money to go around and gold plating south east QLD does not come cheap, so don't expect the QLD government to do much, if anything about the reef.

Hopefully our farmers will self manage their polluting ways and give some relief to the GBR.


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