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Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:28pm
 
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Scientists predict 'mini ice age' could hit UK by 2030


A model of the Sun's magnetic activity suggests the River Thames may freeze over within two decades, experts say.


Frost fairs were once held on the River Thames. Pic: Museum of London

A mini ice age that would freeze major rivers could hit Britain in less than two decades, according to research from universities in the UK and Russia.

A mathematical model of the Sun's magnetic activity suggests temperatures could start dropping here from 2021, with the potential for winter skating on the River Thames by 2030.

A team led by maths professor Valentina Zharkova at Northumbria University built on work from Moscow to predict the movements of two magnetic waves produced by the Sun.

It predicts rapidly decreasing magnetic waves for three solar cycles beginning in 2021 and lasting 33 years.


A mathematical model of the Sun's magnetic activity suggests temperatures in Britain could start dropping from 2021, with the potential for winter skating on the Thames by 2030.

Experts measured the Sun's magnetic waves
Very low magnetic activity on the Sun correspond with historically documented cold periods on Earth.

Professor Zharkova claims 97% accuracy for the model which dovetails with previous mini ice ages, including the Maunder Minimum period from 1645 to 1715 when frost fairs were held on the frozen Thames.
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Reply #1 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:38pm
 
I think the mini ice age has already hit hard.

We won't have to wait till 2030.
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Reply #2 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:45pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:38pm:
I think the mini ice age has already hit hard.

We won't have to wait till 2030.


thats right... as usual.. watch the "Scientist" try to be smart after the horse has already Bolted...

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NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - A severe winter storm froze pipes and disrupted services at refineries on the U.S. Atlantic coast on Thursday, sending fuel prices higher as heavy snowfall and high winds caused electricity outages for almost 80,000 homes and businesses.


The only nuclear plant in Massachusetts was shut just after 2 p.m. because of the failure of a line that connects the reactor to the power grid. Entergy Corp (ETR.N), which operates the Pilgrim Station, said it had not identified the cause of the line problem. ISO New England, which operates the region’s power grid, attributed the shutdown to blizzard conditions. The company did not say when the station would restart.


Utilities in the Southeast have restored service to some customers who were hit by the storm overnight.

Heavy snow pounded the East Coast from Maine as far south as North Carolina on Thursday, taking out power lines, icing roadways and closing schools.

The storm was powered by a rapid plunge in barometric pressure that some weather forecasters referred to as bombogenesis or a “bomb cyclone,” which brought high winds and swift, heavy snowfall.

The region has also been in the grip of a prolonged cold spell.

Prices for heating oil HO-NYH HO-DIFF-NYH and natural gas in the U.S. Northeast hit their highest levels in years on the back of near-record heating demand. Benchmark U.S. heating oil futures HOc1 are near their highest in almost three years.

The U.S. average home residential heating oil prices rose 5.4 percent to $3.078 a gallon in the week through Jan. 1 from a week earlier, according to data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration. On the East Coast, prices rose 5.4 percent to $3.085 a gallon.

U.S. average residential heating oil prices for the 2017-18 period are well above the 2016-17 levels, the data showed.

U.S. natural gas demand was expected to remain near record highs this week. Natural gas is the major fuel for residential and commercial heating in the U.S. Northeast and is also widely used by power plants.

On Thursday, natural gas futures NGc1 fell 12.8 cents, or 4.3 percent, to settle at $2.880 per million British thermal units. That was the biggest one-day decline for the contract in three weeks as less cold weather was predicted. However, regional prices soared under pressure from the cold snap.

U.S. spot natural gas and power prices on Thursday rose to their highest in years in several regions.

Next-day power prices in New England E-NEPLMHP-IDX and PJM E-PJWHRTP-IX, which covers much of the U.S. mid-Atlantic and Midwest region, rose to their highest since January 2014 due to a spike in local natural gas prices.

New England’s cash prices LNG-CG-BS-SNL soared last week, and remained near four-year highs at $36.32 per mmBtu. ISO-New England, that region’s power grid operator, said on Thursday that its power operators were relying more heavily on generators that burn heating oil due to heavy natural gas demand from homes and businesses.

“We expect to have sufficient capacity and fuel available and expect to be able to weather the storm without running up against significant emissions limits, but concerns remain the same regarding fuel availability and emissions limits throughout this protracted cold spell and the rest of the winter,” the company said in a statement.

ISO New England spokeswoman Marcia Blomberg said there were “no immediate reliability issues to the local area” due to the shutdown of Pilgrim.

The lights did not go out in New England after the 688 megawatt Pilgrim plant shut because New England, like all U.S. power grids, keeps some generating plants in reserve in case an operating unit unexpectedly shuts. On Thursday, the grid had a reserve of over 2,100 MW. One megawatt is enough to power about 1,000 U.S. homes.

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Reply #3 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:48pm
 
The evidence piles up.
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Reply #4 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 7:49pm
 
if power stations shut down because of the cold and pricing surges to high so that you can't use it when it is going..

then whats going to happen??

people will freeze to death...

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Reply #5 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:27pm
 
What garbage!

Already in an ice age—2017 was the second hottest year!

The sun since the 1980s has slightly decreased the TSI we get yet still the world warmed. At some stage the sun will increase TSI and temperatures will jump up.

A GSM would reduce temperatures by 0.3°C just like the Maunder Minimum did. That hardly winds back any of the temperature increase from AGW.

Only those of low IQ would even read garbage like that!
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Reply #6 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Already in an ice age—2017 was the second hottest year!



According to who? NOAA hasn't reported yet. Wink
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Reply #7 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:27pm:
Already in an ice age—2017 was the second hottest year!



According to who? NOAA hasn't reported yet. Wink


I think it was their half yearly projection.

It was in one of the doc's that I think you may have posted.
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Reply #8 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:57pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 8:54pm:
I think it was their half yearly projection.



Yeah, JM is getting old.
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Scientists predict 'mini ice age' could hit UK by

How do they know that it will only hit the UK ?

OK for the rest of us ?
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Reply #10 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:02pm
 
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Looks clear to me.

Lees said the later half of the year would be really cold and decrease the average temp. Yeah right.

2018 will likely be a little cooler due to a weak La Nino developing in the Pacific.
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Reply #11 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:02pm
 
You forgot the rest of the article mechanic (I guess that's why you normally don't post a link)

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But she cautions that her mathematical research cannot be used as proof that there will be a mini ice age this time around, not least because of global warming.

"I hope global warning will be overridden by this effect, giving humankind and the Earth 30 years to sort out our pollution," she said.

But Professor Zharkova warned that any downward impact on global warming will last only until the Sun's two magnetic waves become active again in the 2050s.


Professor Zharkova also said this

However, Zharkova ends with a word of warning: not about the cold but about humanity's attitude toward the environment during the minimum. We must not ignore the effects of global warming and assume that it isn't happening. “The Sun buys us time to stop these carbon emissions,” Zharkova says. The next minimum might give the Earth a chance to reduce adverse effects from global warming.

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Reply #12 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:18pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:02pm:
You forgot the rest of the article mechanic (I guess that's why you normally don't post a link)

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But she cautions that her mathematical research cannot be used as proof that there will be a mini ice age this time around, not least because of global warming.

"I hope global warning will be overridden by this effect, giving humankind and the Earth 30 years to sort out our pollution," she said.

But Professor Zharkova warned that any downward impact on global warming will last only until the Sun's two magnetic waves become active again in the 2050s.


Professor Zharkova also said this

However, Zharkova ends with a word of warning: not about the cold but about humanity's attitude toward the environment during the minimum. We must not ignore the effects of global warming and assume that it isn't happening. “The Sun buys us time to stop these carbon emissions,” Zharkova says. The next minimum might give the Earth a chance to reduce adverse effects from global warming.

https://news.sky.com/story/scientists-predict-mini-ice-age-could-hit-uk-by-2030-...



in other words..

although we admit that the Earth is going into an "ICEAGE" ..

don't forget Global Warming!!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

ridiculous...  Roll Eyes

tens of thousands of people are going to die because of these chicken little halfwits... !!
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Reply #13 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:19pm
 
So you only believe her when it suits you
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Reply #14 - Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:21pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 9:01pm:
Scientists predict 'mini ice age' could hit UK by

How do they know that it will only hit the UK ?

OK for the rest of us ?


you need to look at the historical charts posted by myself and bobby to see which parts of the earth will Freeze during the Solar Minimum (ice age)

some parts of Alaska actually warm during these times according to "historical" charts..

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