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Reply #195 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 11:16am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 4:52pm:
Not so much for areas like Europe. Even in places of high altitude, snow and ice can melt in an unusually warm season of summer. And if you really want to say that it is a warmer recent climate that is causing the retreating glaciers, then you really are contradicting your point about glaciers not melting.

It looks like these are photographs of two different seasons in a single place. One of summer and one of winter. The purpose of these photos is nothing more than for propaganda in the "global waffle" chicken little's war.



Maybe you should do a little research on glaciers before you put your foot completely in your mouth. Google will do.
http://discoverykids.com/articles/how-glaciers-work/

Glaciers change very little from one season to the next. They grow a little in the winter and shrink a little in the summer. When the shrinkage is lager than the growth it starts to retreat
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Reply #196 - Feb 18th, 2018 at 2:56pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 11:16am:
Glaciers change very little from one season to the next. They grow a little in the winter and shrink a little in the summer. When the shrinkage is lager than the growth it starts to retreat



Wow. Who woudda thunk?

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Reply #197 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 1:39am
 
I think the point being made is that the glacial retreat is due to the change of seasons. The photos featured could have been taken at different times of the year. A retreating glacier in Summer. A growing glacier in Winter.

For comparison, in Australia, there has been a contrast of rainfall. The west has shown plentiful rainfall for a region that does not get much rain. Whilst eastern Australia has had drought periods for a region that usually sees plentiful summer rain.

A region with glaciers can have a summer season where extremes can get so high that the glaciers can retreat considerably. Whilst in winter, extremes can be so low that snow could dump and then freeze on pre-existing glaciers to form a larger glacier by season's end.

Just because you want to act like a chicken little and continue with this global waffle warming bs, that does not mean that you are right.
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Reply #198 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:23pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 1:39am:
I think the point being made is that the glacial retreat is due to the change of seasons.


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Please do some research on glaciers.
It will stop you looking so foolish
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Reply #199 - Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:24pm
 
A glacier in Jasper NP Canada

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Reply #200 - Feb 24th, 2018 at 11:22pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:23pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 1:39am:
I think the point being made is that the glacial retreat is due to the change of seasons.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Please do some research on glaciers.
It will stop you looking so foolish


I have done enough research on the topic of urban climate and its effects on surrounds that I wonder what you are thinking. Imagine having a few thousand explore the area in 1908, and then having a few hundred thousand people walk around with various transportation and having torn up the surrounds for various reasons. I am sure you would not have as great an extent of glaciers as was seen in 1908.
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Reply #201 - Feb 25th, 2018 at 1:45am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 1:39am:
I think the point being made is that the glacial retreat is due to the change of seasons. The photos featured could have been taken at different times of the year. A retreating glacier in Summer. A growing glacier in Winter.

For comparison, in Australia, there has been a contrast of rainfall. The west has shown plentiful rainfall for a region that does not get much rain. Whilst eastern Australia has had drought periods for a region that usually sees plentiful summer rain.

A region with glaciers can have a summer season where extremes can get so high that the glaciers can retreat considerably. Whilst in winter, extremes can be so low that snow could dump and then freeze on pre-existing glaciers to form a larger glacier by season's end.

Just because you want to act like a chicken little and continue with this global waffle warming bs, that does not mean that you are right.

Which version of chicken little are you referring to exactly?

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Reply #202 - Feb 25th, 2018 at 9:44am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 24th, 2018 at 11:22pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 21st, 2018 at 8:23pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 1:39am:
I think the point being made is that the glacial retreat is due to the change of seasons.


Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Please do some research on glaciers.
It will stop you looking so foolish


I have done enough research on the topic of urban climate and its effects on surrounds that I wonder what you are thinking. Imagine having a few thousand explore the area in 1908, and then having a few hundred thousand people walk around with various transportation and having torn up the surrounds for various reasons. I am sure you would not have as great an extent of glaciers as was seen in 1908.


Clearly you haven't. It is called the heat ISLAND effect for a reason you know. It doesn't affect the surrounding countryside.
And it still doesn't explain all the other retreating glaciers which are nowhere near urban areas.
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Reply #203 - Feb 25th, 2018 at 10:00am
 
Lynch Glacier lies to the north and northwest of Mount Daniel, in the U.S. state of Washington. Lynch Glacier is within the Alpine Lakes Wilderness of Snoqualmie National Forest.[2] The glacier is approximately .60 mi (0.97 km) in length, .80 mi (1.29 km) in width at its widest and descends from 7,800 to 6,400 ft (2,400 to 2,000 m), where it terminates above a proglacial lake known as Pea Soup Lake.

In the late 1970s, Lynch Glacier extended into Pea Soup Lake; however, repeat photography indicates the glacier has since retreated above the lake.

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Reply #204 - Feb 25th, 2018 at 5:10pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 25th, 2018 at 9:44am:
Clearly you haven't. It is called the heat ISLAND effect for a reason you know. It doesn't affect the surrounding countryside.
And it still doesn't explain all the other retreating glaciers which are nowhere near urban areas.


An island is a relatively small land area that is surrounded by water. One of the features of an island is the way they deflect tides, currents, and can effect weather patterns. If we introduced a second Solomon Islands sized group south of the current Solomon Islands, I bet weather patterns would change in Australia.

The heat island in regions that experience a lot of snow would have an effect on surrounding countryside. Going 20km north of my town in the winter, you would find that the cold is more pronounced than what you find in the town. But you would need to have considerable heat to effect that much cold. But glaciers would not affect that much by urban heat. If you can't believe that a change in seasons and a change in urban heat does effect glacial size, then what are you doing IMPLYING a rise in average global temperatures have to do with glacial size. You are painting yourself into a corner on this one. Or perhaps the paint fumes are getting to you.

And, obviously, the surrounding region having people move in would change the environment by snow ploughing the area and doing all kinds of exploring and rearranging of surrounds. Chances are.... that photo with the road in the middle, probably has been ploughed every year so that the cars can get through. I would be sure that had everyone packed up and left, the lack of ploughing the area would lead to glaciers regenerate.
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Reply #205 - Feb 27th, 2018 at 9:15pm
 
No USR that is not what the heat island effect is

An urban heat island (UHI) is an urban area or metropolitan area that is significantly warmer than its surrounding rural areas due to human activities.

The glacier isn't in the town, it's in the surrounding area. And that's just the Rhone glacier. All the other glaciers that are retreating are nowhere near urban areas.

You really do need to do some research on glaciers and the urban heat island effect because you are just displaying your ignorance
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Reply #206 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 10:14am
 
Briksdal Glacier used to be the largest glacier on the European mainland, in Norway. But due to global warming it has been reduced to a mere shadow of its former self. Once a great tourist attraction of the Scandinavian peninsula, Briksdal Glacier is now no longer available for glacier tours. As you can see from the photos the effects of global warming are undeniable and they say you can here the ice melting because of the caverns formed between the glacier and the rocks. It’s a tragedy, but, as always, nobody gives a damn and no one with some real power does anything about it.

http://www.odditycentral.com/pics/visual-proof-of-global-warming.html

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Reply #207 - Mar 3rd, 2018 at 12:49pm
 
Why do the photos only go back 25 years? I am sure they ad cameras back then. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

You do realise those photos are not taken from the same place, different focal points. You would need photos from the same point to show what you want to show.

Looking at the first and third photograph the glacier seems to have retreated about 20M. What time of year were they taken in each case?
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Reply #208 - Mar 4th, 2018 at 10:06am
 
Popov glacier in Russia

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Reply #209 - Mar 5th, 2018 at 9:45am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 3rd, 2018 at 10:14am:
Briksdal Glacier used to be the largest glacier on the European mainland, in Norway. But due to global warming it has been reduced to a mere shadow of its former self. Once a great tourist attraction of the Scandinavian peninsula, Briksdal Glacier is now no longer available for glacier tours. As you can see from the photos the effects of global warming are undeniable and they say you can here the ice melting because of the caverns formed between the glacier and the rocks. It’s a tragedy, but, as always, nobody gives a damn and no one with some real power does anything about it.

http://www.odditycentral.com/pics/visual-proof-of-global-warming.html

http://i65.tinypic.com/il9a2u.jpg

https://glacsweb.org/norway/panoramas/

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