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Reply #285 - Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:24pm
 
From your reference.

"Most of the models accurately predicted recent global surface temperatures, which have risen approximately 0.9°C since 1970. For 10 forecasts, there was no statistically significant difference between their output and historic observations, the team reports today in Geophysical Research Letters."

And yet the CO2 data and IPCC ECS of 4.5ºC (as its maximum) doesn't support that level of change. It works out at 0.44ºC at the maximum. So that is double the amount of warming according to the CO2 theory. Wink

In Wild et al 2015 they come up with an imbalance of 0.6w/m2. Yet the data that they used have uncertainties far larger than that. Grin Grin Grin Grin

From the paper -

"Seven older models missed the mark by as much as 0.1°C per decade. But the accuracy of five of those forecasts improved enough to match observations when the scientists adjusted a key input to the models: how much climate-changing pollution humans have emitted over the years."

Wow. so they adjusted the inputs and they performed better. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #286 - Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:27pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 10th, 2019 at 1:43pm:
https://debunkhouse.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/oerlemans_1-1.png

"45% of the ice loss occurred before 1900, when atmospheric was still below 300 ppm. By 1950, 75% of the ice loss had occurred. Only 25% of the ice loss has occurred since humans allegedly became the primary drivers of climate change. At the time of “The Ice Age Cometh” (1975), 90% of the ice loss had already occurred.

In the extremely unlikely event that the climate models are right, 90% of the ice loss occurred before an anthropogenic fingerprint could be discerned."

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/12/09/sea-level-rise-acceleration-jevrejeva-vs-...


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Reply #287 - Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:28pm
 
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Reply #288 - Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:29pm
 
random wrote on Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:27pm:
Willard Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a blogger, weathercaster and non-scientist, paid AGW denier who runs the website wattsupwiththat.com. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather announcer. His website is parodied and debunked at the website wottsupwiththat.com Watts is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by polluting industries.[1]



I see you didn't attribute your quote? Why is that? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Oh. Wiki. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #289 - Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:34pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:29pm:
random wrote on Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:27pm:
Willard Anthony Watts (Anthony Watts) is a blogger, weathercaster and non-scientist, paid AGW denier who runs the website wattsupwiththat.com. He does not have a university qualification and has no climate credentials other than being a radio weather announcer. His website is parodied and debunked at the website wottsupwiththat.com Watts is on the payroll of the Heartland Institute, which itself is funded by polluting industries.[1]



I see you didn't attribute your quote? Why is that? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


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Anthony Watts is a former television meteorologist best known as the founder and editor of the blog Watts Up With That (WUWT), which primarily publishes articles critical of mainstream climate change science. Watts joined the Heartland Institute, a think tank proudly at the forefront of promoting doubt about climate change, as a Senior Fellow in 2019. [1], [121]
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Reply #290 - Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:38pm
 
More wiki? Grin Grin Grin Grin

Now if only you could do a job on proving what was written wrong. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Shooting the messenger is so much more your style, because you don't do science. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #291 - Dec 11th, 2019 at 8:42pm
 
Watts admits he is ”not a degreed climate scientist.” His primary credential appears to be an American Meteorological Society Seal of Approval. This does not mean that Watts is “AMS Certified” as some sources have inaccurately claimed. The AMS Seal of Approval is a discontinued credential that does not require a bachelor's or higher degree in atmospheric science or meteorology.  [1], [7], [8], [9]
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