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Reply #135 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 6:06pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 3:15pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 11:10am:

The US didn't invade Iraq just for the oil, but the oil security and a military foothold on the Arabian peninsula.

Mission accomplished.

In what way did Iraq threaten oil security? .

You tell me, old chap. If I remember rightly, you were aghast at Saddam not playing the game.

Not cricket, I believe you said. On stilts.

Now stop playing silly buggers and admit the real reason you wanted a jolly invasion.

You introduced and propagated the idea of 'oil security' as a reason and you now want me to tell you what you meant??

Tsk, tsk, Bwian, I am onto you. Roll Eyes

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Reply #136 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 6:34pm

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 3:15pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 11:10am:

The US didn't invade Iraq just for the oil, but the oil security and a military foothold on the Arabian peninsula.

Mission accomplished.

In what way did Iraq threaten oil security? .

You tell me, old chap. If I remember rightly, you were aghast at Saddam not playing the game.

Not cricket, I believe you said. On stilts.

Now stop playing silly buggers and admit the real reason you wanted a jolly invasion.

You introduced and propagated the idea of 'oil security' as a reason and you now want me to tell you what you meant??

Tsk, tsk, Bwian, I am onto you. Roll Eyes

If I'm not mistaken, you introduced the idea that the Iraq war was not about oil.

Yes, I'd like you to tell me what I think please, dear - right after you tell me why you wanted Iraq invaded.

And something tells me you still want it invaded, ja?

Feel free to tell me why.

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Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy
Reply #137 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 7:20pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

you lied about including a link in the original post.

Come again FD?

the original post is post# 52, yes?

Is there a link in that post?

I quoted the two posts I was asking about Gandalf. They contain the statements I was asking about. They do not contain any links. You lied about including links, then lied about me not quoting the claims I was asking you about.

So instead we got pages and pages of your slippery Muslim routine because you couldn't give a straight answer to a simple question.

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Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy
Reply #138 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 7:23pm

freediver wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

you lied about including a link in the original post.

Come again FD?

the original post is post# 52, yes?

Is there a link in that post?

I quoted the two posts I was asking about Gandalf. They contain the statements I was asking about. They do not contain any links. You lied about including links, then lied about me not quoting the claims I was asking you about.

So instead we got pages and pages of your slippery Muslim routine because you couldn't give a straight answer to a simple question.

Thanks, FD. That explains that. Now do you want to give a straight answer to my simple question?

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Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy
Reply #139 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:06pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 3:15pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 2:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 29^th, 2017 at 11:10am:

The US didn't invade Iraq just for the oil, but the oil security and a military foothold on the Arabian peninsula.

Mission accomplished.

In what way did Iraq threaten oil security? .

You tell me, old chap. If I remember rightly, you were aghast at Saddam not playing the game.

Not cricket, I believe you said. On stilts.

Now stop playing silly buggers and admit the real reason you wanted a jolly invasion.

You introduced and propagated the idea of 'oil security' as a reason and you now want me to tell you what you meant??

Tsk, tsk, Bwian, I am onto you. Roll Eyes

If I'm not mistaken, you introduced the idea that the Iraq war was not about oil.

Yes, I'd like you to tell me what I think please, dear - right after you tell me why you wanted Iraq invaded.

And something tells me you still want it invaded, ja?

Feel free to tell me why.

Tks, task, Bwian. Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 44767	Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy Reply #140 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:29pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm now supposed to be Karnal? Tsk, tsk. Soren, just try harder, OK? It'd make all our lives easier than you displaying your paranoia all over the place...
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Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy
Reply #141 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm now supposed to be Karnal? Tsk, tsk. Soren, just try harder, OK? It'd make all our lives easier than you displaying your paranoia all over the place... Roll Eyes

Old boy, you started it.

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Reply #142 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm now supposed to be Karnal? Tsk, tsk. Soren, just try harder, OK? It'd make all our lives easier than you displaying your paranoia all over the place... Roll Eyes

No, you are just shorthand for completely unmoored and incoherent lunatic, Bwian. Tks,, tsk, you don't get anything, do you? Roll Eyes

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Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy
Reply #143 - Oct 30^th, 2017 at 10:24pm

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm now supposed to be Karnal? Tsk, tsk. Soren, just try harder, OK? It'd make all our lives easier than you displaying your paranoia all over the place... Roll Eyes

No, you are just shorthand for completely unmoored and incoherent lunatic, Bwian. Tks,, tsk, you don't get anything, do you? Roll Eyes

And yet, you've been invited to share your views but choose not to. What does FD call it?

The slippery Muslim routine.

Shurely shome mishtake, nein? You meant to share your views on carpetbombing the tinted races, but were distracted by Brian, ja?

A bit like how FD was just about to share his views on Uncle but was distracted by post #52.

An easy mishtake to make.

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Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy
Reply #144 - Oct 31^st, 2017 at 1:48am

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm now supposed to be Karnal? Tsk, tsk. Soren, just try harder, OK? It'd make all our lives easier than you displaying your paranoia all over the place... Roll Eyes

No, you are just shorthand for completely unmoored and incoherent lunatic, Bwian. Tks,, tsk, you don't get anything, do you? Roll Eyes

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. How long have you suffered from Projection, Soren? Lie back, get comfy and lets talk about your problems which appear to be manifesting themselves so much lately. I mean, apart from all your phobias, we have anxiety, paranoia and now projection. Roll Eyes

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Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy
Reply #145 - Oct 31^st, 2017 at 6:40am

freediver wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

you lied about including a link in the original post.

Come again FD?

the original post is post# 52, yes?

Is there a link in that post?

I quoted the two posts I was asking about Gandalf. They contain the statements I was asking about. They do not contain any links. You lied about including links, then lied about me not quoting the claims I was asking you about.

So instead we got pages and pages of your slippery Muslim routine because you couldn't give a straight answer to a simple question.

You are either confused or being deliberately obtuse. Given your persistence with this idiotic "guess what I'm talking about" game of yours, I suspect the latter. What you quoted was simply a restatement of my original source. I have explained this, and I literally don't know how I can be any clearer than I have been.

If the second claim is about European colonial deaths being greater than at any time - there is no source, I stated this from the beginning. As I have said twice already, it is a statement of the bleeding obvious.

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Reply #146 - Oct 31^st, 2017 at 12:31pm

As soon as you told me where the original source was, I found it. Surprise surprise. Only problem was I had to go through pages and pages of your slippery Muslim routine to get it. And now you are blaming me for your tapdancing.

There was no need for you to guess what I was asking about, and you lie again to suggest there was. I quoted you many times. You lied by claiming there was a link with the original post, then when I quoted the original post in its entirety to show there was no link you lied about me being unclear, because you were not sure which part of the whole post I was asking you about. At every step of the way we got the slippery Muslim routine from you, and you blaming me for it. As a Muslim, no matter how you behave, you are the victim, right?

I could not have been clearer. I quoted you. I asked where you got it from. I did so from immediately after the post I copied the quote from. You could not have been more evasive. Which is not surprising, given the absurdity of the claims you are making.

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Reply #147 - Oct 31^st, 2017 at 1:02pm

so your petty attack on me is no longer that I lied about having a source? Merely that I was "slippery" about where the source was?

freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2017 at 12:31pm:

As soon as you told me where the original source was, I found it.

If thats true, why did you continue on with the "gandalf's lying about having a source" jihad for several pages after I told you? It went right up until yesterday when you were still whinging about not being able to find any link. This is despite me telling you where the original source was a full 3 days, and 4 pages earlier (post#87)

Can you understand my bemusement when you insinuate that I had no source, complete with your usual petty "slippery muslim" ad-hom routine - right after you directly quoted it? FD do you usually quote something without having a clue as to what its about?

freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2017 at 12:31pm:

I could not have been clearer. I quoted you. I asked where you got it from.

You posted a massive quote bomb which contained at least 3 separate claims - and then tried to pass this off as one claim that I lied about having a source for. How could you possible say with a straight face this "could not have been clearer"? One of the things you quoted was my claim about imperialism deaths that I made abundantly clear from the very beginning had no source, and that it was merely a statement of "the bleeding obvious". I explained this at least 2 times for you FD, and still you quoted it as part of your demand for a source. Why was that FD? I even asked you to clarify what specifically in that massive quote bomb you took issue with - and you responded with your usual childish tantrum.

Its almost as if you deliberately set out to be vague and confusing - so that when I inevitably protest at your vagueness, you can just fall back to your standard 'slippery muslim' ad hom. I'm beginning to think this is a deliberate set strategy of yours.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #148 - Oct 31^st, 2017 at 2:25pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 10:24pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 30^th, 2017 at 9:29pm:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I'm now supposed to be Karnal? Tsk, tsk. Soren, just try harder, OK? It'd make all our lives easier than you displaying your paranoia all over the place... Roll Eyes

No, you are just shorthand for completely unmoored and incoherent lunatic, Bwian. Tks,, tsk, you don't get anything, do you? Roll Eyes

And yet, you've been invited to share your views but choose not to. What does FD call it?

The slippery Muslim routine.

Shurely shome mishtake, nein? You meant to share your views on carpetbombing the tinted races, but were distracted by Brian, ja?

A bit like how FD was just about to share his views on Uncle but was distracted by post #52.

An easy mishtake to make.

Tsk, tsk, Bwian/Kameel. Roll Eyes

I said that an invasion for oil would have been idiotic because it is a lot easier and cheaper to buy oil on the open market (and that Iraq is not a major source of oil for the US anyway). You climbed down a bit and said the invasion was for not for oil but oil security and a foothold. So I asked you to explain what 'oil security' was achieved or could be achieved by the invasion (and what foothold when the US Fifth Fleet is already the largest US base in the ME).

But, just like Bwian and any other student from the Vicky Pollard School of Mohammedan Logic, you are now onto asking a question about my views - which I gave you already: invasion for oil is a stupid argument and only people like you and Bwian would advance. SO do tell us about invasions for oil security, Kameel. Then ask a question.

(Re "carpet-bombing" - my doctrine is: give them freedom and self-determination but if they misuse it and turn on you or their own people and their neighbours, kill them. Repeat until pacified and civilised. Is this what you were after? The alternative is to keep them enslaved by their own monster, making cheap T shirts to pay for chemical weapons and a nuclear program. Do you want them to make cheap T shirts and nuclear weapons, Kameel, or do you want to give them civilisation and freeeeedom??
(For which they will despise you more than if you killed them, BTW, because you would have demonstrated that they had lived in error for all those centuries. None of the peoples with massive chips on their shoulders about whitey can cope well with that. Is that the white man's burden gotcha you are looking for?))

Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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Re: Ahmadis sentenced to death for blasphemy
Reply #149 - Oct 31^st, 2017 at 3:06pm

freediver wrote on Oct 31^st, 2017 at 12:31pm:

As soon as you told me where the original source was, I found it. Surprise surprise.

Gee, FD, you're right. That is a surprise.

You kept asking G for it, but do you know? It was there the whole time.

Now. Onto Uncle. Would you care to answer my question? No need to ask me what it is, just go back to my post.

You'll see my question has been there the whole time too.

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