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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #510 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 6:33pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:26pm:

Thats a great question FD.

You might also want to ponder over when people in Europe became "European", and why did they stop being "Africans"... are Dingos considered bone fide "native" Australian animals now? If so, when exactly did that happen? Questions, questions...

Let's try again Gandalf. Why, other than convenient racism, does it stop being an Indian or Arab disease, despite not evolving into a new race, but it is forever a European disease?

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 2:14pm:

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My definition, which is coincidentally also the bleeding obvious, common sense definition, is based on who brought it and where they brought it from. So if European people brought a disease to a another continent from Europe (irrespective of who might have originally brought it to Europe hundreds of years earlier), I say its a "European disease". Is it correct to say that this concept still flies over your head?

What if Indians bought the disease to the Arabs, Arabs brought the disease to Europe, Europeans landed it somewhere in the Americas, and then native Americans brought it to other parts of the Americas? Is it still a European disease?

Or does it only count if they use ships rather than beautiful Muslim camels?

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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #511 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 6:35pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 5:57pm:

If he knew anything about the Congo

Fortunately for FD, he doesn't. He doesn't want to know, that would give the game away. He'll just cherry pick Wikipedia articles that I post and ask clever rhetorical questions until he can construct a narrative that says the deaths were just the result of a bit of bad weather and arab diseases. If you could be bothered to look at previous discussions on this, the apologising is simply breathtaking. Did you know for example, that the muslims are to blame for the Spanish discovering, and then destroying entire civilizations, killing millions? Because they wanted to tax Europeans attempting to cross the Bosporus on their way to Asia - thus prompting the Spanish to seek alternative routes. So hey presto, European raping and pillaging is all the muslims fault.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51333 At my desk.	Re: Islam-inspired racism Reply #512 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 6:44pm Here's a simple question for you Gandalf. Were you, by your own logic, blaming Europeans for Arab diseases?
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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #513 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 7:18pm

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 6:33pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:26pm:

Thats a great question FD.

You might also want to ponder over when people in Europe became "European", and why did they stop being "Africans"... are Dingos considered bone fide "native" Australian animals now? If so, when exactly did that happen? Questions, questions...

Let's try again Gandalf. Why, other than convenient racism, does it stop being an Indian or Arab disease, despite not evolving into a new race, but it is forever a European disease?

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 2:14pm:

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My definition, which is coincidentally also the bleeding obvious, common sense definition, is based on who brought it and where they brought it from. So if European people brought a disease to a another continent from Europe (irrespective of who might have originally brought it to Europe hundreds of years earlier), I say its a "European disease". Is it correct to say that this concept still flies over your head?

What if Indians bought the disease to the Arabs, Arabs brought the disease to Europe, Europeans landed it somewhere in the Americas, and then native Americans brought it to other parts of the Americas? Is it still a European disease?

Or does it only count if they use ships rather than beautiful Muslim camels?

FD, would you like to clarify your view on the cunning Arab diseases? You haven't said.

You might like to refer me to your original post if you can't be bothered saying it again.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98973	Re: Islam-inspired racism Reply #514 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 7:20pm freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 6:44pm: Here's a simple question for you Gandalf. Were you, by your own logic, blaming Europeans for Arab diseases? FD?
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam-inspired racism Reply #515 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 7:58pm freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 6:44pm: Here's a simple question for you Gandalf. Were you, by your own logic, blaming Europeans for Arab diseases? No. Has the day reached peak stupid yet? I certainly hope so.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98973	Re: Islam-inspired racism Reply #516 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:02pm Oh. FD's gone.
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Islam-inspired racism Reply #517 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:09pm FD, please state your views about the Congo, and whether you believe that the Europeans spreading diseases is the fault of the Arab Muslims??
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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #518 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:15pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:09pm:

FD, please state your views about the Congo, and whether you believe that the Europeans spreading diseases is the fault of the Arab Muslims??

To give you a sense of FD's take on this - he thinks the devastating famine caused by the forced recruitment of farmers and fishermen into the rubber plantations - was nothing but a bit of bad weather.

He seemed to genuinely believe that famine has no other cause.

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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #519 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:18pm

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No. Has the day reached peak stupid yet? I certainly hope so.

Was it not an Arab disease?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:26pm:

Thats a great question FD.

You might also want to ponder over when people in Europe became "European", and why did they stop being "Africans"... are Dingos considered bone fide "native" Australian animals now? If so, when exactly did that happen? Questions, questions...

Let's try again Gandalf. Why, other than convenient racism, does it stop being an Indian or Arab disease, despite not evolving into a new race, but it is forever a European disease?

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 2:14pm:

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My definition, which is coincidentally also the bleeding obvious, common sense definition, is based on who brought it and where they brought it from. So if European people brought a disease to a another continent from Europe (irrespective of who might have originally brought it to Europe hundreds of years earlier), I say its a "European disease". Is it correct to say that this concept still flies over your head?

What if Indians bought the disease to the Arabs, Arabs brought the disease to Europe, Europeans landed it somewhere in the Americas, and then native Americans brought it to other parts of the Americas? Is it still a European disease?

Or does it only count if they use ships rather than beautiful Muslim camels?

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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #520 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 6:35pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 5:57pm:

If he knew anything about the Congo

Fortunately for FD, he doesn't. He doesn't want to know, that would give the game away. He'll just cherry pick Wikipedia articles that I post and ask clever rhetorical questions until he can construct a narrative that says the deaths were just the result of a bit of bad weather and arab diseases. If you could be bothered to look at previous discussions on this, the apologising is simply breathtaking. Did you know for example, that the muslims are to blame for the Spanish discovering, and then destroying entire civilizations, killing millions? Because they wanted to tax Europeans attempting to cross the Bosporus on their way to Asia - thus prompting the Spanish to seek alternative routes. So hey presto, European raping and pillaging is all the muslims fault.

You and I have our disagreements, but this point of view from FD is quite absurd.

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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #521 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:20pm

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

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No. Has the day reached peak stupid yet? I certainly hope so.

Was it not an Arab disease?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:26pm:

Thats a great question FD.

You might also want to ponder over when people in Europe became "European", and why did they stop being "Africans"... are Dingos considered bone fide "native" Australian animals now? If so, when exactly did that happen? Questions, questions...

Let's try again Gandalf. Why, other than convenient racism, does it stop being an Indian or Arab disease, despite not evolving into a new race, but it is forever a European disease?

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 2:14pm:

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My definition, which is coincidentally also the bleeding obvious, common sense definition, is based on who brought it and where they brought it from. So if European people brought a disease to a another continent from Europe (irrespective of who might have originally brought it to Europe hundreds of years earlier), I say its a "European disease". Is it correct to say that this concept still flies over your head?

What if Indians bought the disease to the Arabs, Arabs brought the disease to Europe, Europeans landed it somewhere in the Americas, and then native Americans brought it to other parts of the Americas? Is it still a European disease?

Or does it only count if they use ships rather than beautiful Muslim camels?

But then, surely, who brought the diseases to the Arabs??

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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #522 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:25pm

Auggie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

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No. Has the day reached peak stupid yet? I certainly hope so.

Was it not an Arab disease?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:26pm:

Thats a great question FD.

You might also want to ponder over when people in Europe became "European", and why did they stop being "Africans"... are Dingos considered bone fide "native" Australian animals now? If so, when exactly did that happen? Questions, questions...

Let's try again Gandalf. Why, other than convenient racism, does it stop being an Indian or Arab disease, despite not evolving into a new race, but it is forever a European disease?

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 2:14pm:

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My definition, which is coincidentally also the bleeding obvious, common sense definition, is based on who brought it and where they brought it from. So if European people brought a disease to a another continent from Europe (irrespective of who might have originally brought it to Europe hundreds of years earlier), I say its a "European disease". Is it correct to say that this concept still flies over your head?

What if Indians bought the disease to the Arabs, Arabs brought the disease to Europe, Europeans landed it somewhere in the Americas, and then native Americans brought it to other parts of the Americas? Is it still a European disease?

Or does it only count if they use ships rather than beautiful Muslim camels?

But then, surely, who brought the diseases to the Arabs??

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Re: Islam-inspired racism
Reply #523 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:28pm

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:25pm:

Auggie wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:20pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

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No. Has the day reached peak stupid yet? I certainly hope so.

Was it not an Arab disease?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 1:26pm:

Thats a great question FD.

You might also want to ponder over when people in Europe became "European", and why did they stop being "Africans"... are Dingos considered bone fide "native" Australian animals now? If so, when exactly did that happen? Questions, questions...

Let's try again Gandalf. Why, other than convenient racism, does it stop being an Indian or Arab disease, despite not evolving into a new race, but it is forever a European disease?

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2018 at 2:14pm:

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My definition, which is coincidentally also the bleeding obvious, common sense definition, is based on who brought it and where they brought it from. So if European people brought a disease to a another continent from Europe (irrespective of who might have originally brought it to Europe hundreds of years earlier), I say its a "European disease". Is it correct to say that this concept still flies over your head?

What if Indians bought the disease to the Arabs, Arabs brought the disease to Europe, Europeans landed it somewhere in the Americas, and then native Americans brought it to other parts of the Americas? Is it still a European disease?

Or does it only count if they use ships rather than beautiful Muslim camels?

But then, surely, who brought the diseases to the Arabs??

Who brought the diseases to the Indians?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Islam-inspired racism Reply #524 - Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:41pm freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2018 at 8:18pm: Was it not an Arab disease? First I'm hearing this. I think this is your story FD.
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Question: Is saying "Arabs are responsible for diseases spread by Arabs, just like Europeans are responsible for diseases spread by Europeans" blatant racism?
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