polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2018 at 10:12am:



Accusing and mocking - not the same things.

Except for puffed up self-righteous Muslims, who will take mocking to be an accusation and so have and will kill over mocking jokes.


There are no jokes in Islam.

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 6:25pm:



They are PC eyewash.   They are not joking about Islam. And they are not particularly funny.


When the Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini decreed a death sentence against author Salman Rushdie in 1989, to be carried out by any good Muslim, the most common reaction was disbelief. A death sentence? Over a book?
In Australia, at least, there were laughs to be had, and plenty of comedians were ready to mine them. Austen Tayshus predicted Rushdie's next book would be called "And Buddha is a fat little poo." Rob Sitch and his fellow D-Generation talents won an ARIA award for their 1989 album The Satanic Sketches. In 1989, for comedians, all religions were fair game.
But in the 26 years since Khomeini's fatwa was announced, the laughs have withered away. As its engagement with the Muslim world deepens, the West – Australian satirists no exception – has come to understand that Islam is no laughing matter.
...

The website Islam Question and Answer (islamqa.info/en) offers as its first condition of "permissible joking": It should not involve any element of making fun of Islam.
Khomeini himself put it this way: "Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer.

An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."

This year [2015] will mark a decade since the "Danish cartoons" furore. It should be remembered that the cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad had been commissioned by a Danish newspaper editor in 2005 to "test the limits of free speech". This exercise was very European in its enlightenment premise. The recurring violence provides its own answer, with the atrocity in Paris simply another punctuation point.
After Paris, the idea that Islam and its prophet is a religion that can be mocked is now literally a dangerous one about which there can be no festival.
A solemn and dignified Ramadan indeed. Sometimes it takes a clown to speak the truths that others won't face. [ie that Islam is laughable. ed.]


We can joke about everything but Islam because Muslims will kill for a joke or a cartoon or a book.  Their so called 'comedians' make jokes about people who find this outrageous and unacceptable. They are propagandists, not comedians.

Frank wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:


And yet they are a growing phenomenon, Soren.  Humour, like beauty is very much in the eyes and ears of the beholder.  You may not find them funny but loads of other people find them funny.  Rather like how today, Monty-Python is considered classic British comedy but when it was first aired on television it was dreadfully panned...   

polite_gandalf wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 8:04am:


I was asking you about a specific example that you provided Gandalf. I do not need to know how you decide in order to ask you how you decide. I personally think the whole idea is idiotic, even by your standards. Were you, by your own logic, blaming Europeans for Arab diseases? Or am I not allowed to ask this until I tell you the answer?

How do you decide which diseases are Arab and which ones are European?

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 9:27pm:



The only growing phenomenon is self- censorsgip around Islam and Muslims.

Muslim 'commedians' make jokes about non-Muslim 'misundertandings' of Islam  and Muslims. No jokes about Mohammed lest you get killed or fired.
https://www.meforum.org/articles/2015/why-can-t-muslims-laugh-at-mohammed

Frank wrote on Mar 29^th, 2018 at 9:49pm:


Humour in Islam