Australian Politics Forum - Global warming, the science and the consequences

Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #225 - Jul 24^th, 2017 at 2:17pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 1:36pm: Not with AGW making the seas hotter and hotter. yeah yeah everyday I look out to sea at all that boiling water
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #226 - Jul 24^th, 2017 at 2:22pm No, roach, since the mechanism is known it is not correlation v causation.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #227 - Jul 24^th, 2017 at 2:22pm Grendel wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 2:17pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 1:36pm: Not with AGW making the seas hotter and hotter. yeah yeah everyday I look out to sea at all that boiling water Heard what is happening to coral reefs the world over?
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TheFunPolice Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9009 waggawagga Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #228 - Jul 24^th, 2017 at 2:28pm Grendel wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 2:17pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 24^th, 2017 at 1:36pm: Not with AGW making the seas hotter and hotter. yeah yeah everyday I look out to sea at all that boiling water Lol, you are a unit!
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Reply #229 - Jul 24^th, 2017 at 2:31pm

Grendel wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 3:27pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2017 at 1:18pm:

There is 46% more CO2 in the atmosphere pre industrial revolution.

410ppm v 280ppm.

That seems pretty clear, not? Going to quibble with that?

Going to quibble that the extra CO2 is not heating the earth? It is, you know.

LOL
Arguing correlation = causation again eh.... you alarmists just never let up on it do you?
But wait didn't I read somewhere you denied it? Grin

Grendel has nothing, again Cheesy

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #230 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:52am https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3351.epdf?referrer_access_token=2mYD3Xh3... Extreme El Nino/La Nina events to increase even if we keep global temperature increase to 1.5°C. Need to do more,
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #231 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:05am http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/resurrecting-ancient-wines-that-can-survive-... Spanish wine industry turning to old grape varieties to find grapes that can cope with the extra heat from AGW to produce wines that are sound and balanced, fruit v acidity etc.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #232 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:26pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:52am: https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3351.epdf?referrer_access_token=2mYD3Xh3... Extreme El Nino/La Nina events to increase even if we keep global temperature increase to 1.5°C. Need to do more, Oh. The models.
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Reply #233 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:27pm

lee wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:26pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3351.epdf?referrer_access_token=2mYD3Xh3...

Extreme El Nino/La Nina events to increase even if we keep global temperature increase to 1.5°C. Need to do more,

Oh. The models. Grin

lee couldn't stand a world that uses models Grin

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Reply #234 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:27pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 11:05am:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/resurrecting-ancient-wines-that-can-survive-...

Spanish wine industry turning to old grape varieties to find grapes that can cope with the extra heat from AGW to produce wines that are sound and balanced, fruit v acidity etc.

You mean the old grape varieties lived in a time of higher temperatures? Oh NOOOOO. Grin

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #235 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:31pm Time or place of higher temperatures. Why, Lees, you aren’t saying temperatures have to be constant are you? But wineries are also moving to cooler areas and planting new vineyards: UK and Tasmania. That will work until and if we allow AGW to just spiral out of control.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #236 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:44pm TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:27pm: lee couldn't stand a world that uses models Ah, Bill Nye. The science NOT guy who once famously made a video of westerly trade winds. Check this out at about the 1min mark - And his high school physics experiment that didn't work.
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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21533 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #237 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:47pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 27^th, 2017 at 12:31pm: Why, Lees, you aren’t saying temperatures have to be constant are you? No JM. But old varieties strongly suggests a change in climate. But according to you climate change/AGW is a new beastie on the block.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #238 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 1:01pm Now you are being silly, again. Changing to new varieties (remember me talking about Fiano grapes??) or new areas for winegrapes is only going to take them that far, eventually AGW will mean winemaking isn’t feasible.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 51474 Gender:	Re: Global warming, the science and the consequences Reply #239 - Jul 27^th, 2017 at 1:03pm Wildfires in SE France. (ABC News) Gee, lots of wildfires lately, eh? Reckon AGW has something to do with it.
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