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New Paper Climate scientists "We were Wrong"
Sep 20th, 2017 at 2:06pm
 
"This is the inescapable conclusion of a landmark paper, published in Nature Geoscience, which finally admits that the computer models have overstated the impact of carbon dioxide on climate and that the planet is warming more slowly than predicted.

The paper – titled Emission budgets and pathways consistent with limiting warming to 1.5 °C –  concedes that it is now almost impossible that the doomsday predictions made in the last IPCC Assessment Report of 1.5 degrees C warming above pre-industrial levels by 2022 will come true."

"One researcher – from the alarmist side of the argument, not the skeptical one – has described the paper’s conclusion as “breathtaking” in its implications."

"According to the London Times:

     Michael Grubb, professor of international energy and climate change at University College London and one ofthe study’s authors, admitted that his previous prediction had been wrong."

"Myles Allen, professor of geosystem science at the University of Oxford and another author of the paper, said: “We haven’t seen that rapid acceleration in warming after 2000 that we see in the models. We haven’t seen that in the observations.” He said that the group of about a dozen computer models, produced by government research institutes and universities around the world, had been assembled a decade ago “so it’s not that surprising that it’s starting to divert a little bit from observations”."

"Note the disingenuousness here.

Grubb is claiming that the facts have changed. Which they haven’t. Climate skeptics have been saying for years that the IPCC climate models have been running “too hot.”  "

"Allen’s “so it’s not that surprising” is indeed true if you’re on the skeptical side of the argument. But not if, like Allen, you’re one of those scientists who’ve spent the last 20 years scorning, mocking and vilifying all those skeptics who for years have been arguing the very point which Allen himself is now admitting is correct."

"Paul Homewood has their number:

    1) We have known for several years that the climate models have been running far too hot.

    This rather belated admission is welcome, but a cynic would wonder why it was not made before Paris.

    2) I suspect part of the motivation is to keep Paris on track. Most observers, including even James Hansen, have realised that it was not worth the paper it was written on.

    This new study is designed to restore the belief that the original climate targets can be achieved, via Paris and beyond.

3) Although they talk of the difference between 0.9C and 1.3C, the significance is much greater.

Making the reasonable assumption that a significant part of the warming since the mid 19thC is natural, this means that any AGW signal is much less than previously thought.

4) Given that that they now admit they have got it so wrong, why should we be expected to have any faith at all in the models?

5) Finally, we must remember that temperatures since 2000 have been artificially raised by the recent record El Nino, and the ongoing warm phase of the AMO."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/19/delingpole-climate-alarmists-...

The paper is here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo3031.epdf?referrer_access_token=xkwtnMZBWpdT...
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Reply #1 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:14pm
 
Dear Lee, are you spruiking nuclear power again?
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Reply #2 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:29pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Dear Lee, are you spruiking nuclear power again?


No. Do you want me to?
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Reply #3 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:55pm
 
lee wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:29pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Sep 20th, 2017 at 3:14pm:
Dear Lee, are you spruiking nuclear power again?


No. Do you want me to?

You already are, no need to pretend!
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Re: New Paper Climate scientists "We were Wrong"
Reply #4 - Sep 20th, 2017 at 10:36pm
 
Yeah I read some articles on this the other day.
They still refuse to give an unreserved apology.
I have no idea where the nuclear crap is coming from though, did I miss something?
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