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Reply #135 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:07pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 11:59am:
7°C.

And more and more frequent droughts.

And, not mentioned in the article, rising sea levels pushing salt water further and further inland. Big storms should see flooding over larger and larger areas, destroying soils, aquifers etc.

I would expect a sgnificant error value, to such a number... Because if a 7 degree temperature rise for Spain is assured over the next 100 years I would expect global panic would already be upon us!
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Reply #136 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:09pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 11:59am:
7°C.

And more and more frequent droughts.

And, not mentioned in the article, rising sea levels pushing salt water further and further inland. Big storms should see flooding over larger and larger areas, destroying soils, aquifers etc.

I would expect a significant error value to such a number... Because if a 7 degree temperature rise for Spain is assured over the next 100 years I would expect global panic to already be upon us!

Also,... Have you seen this: ...
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Reply #137 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:12pm
 
Christ, DRAH, can you shrink that image?

It says .7°C increase a year. I just multiplied by 10 and 100, doubt it will work like that DRAH  Grin
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Reply #138 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 2:29pm
 
TheFunPolice wrote on Jul 5th, 2017 at 4:40pm:
Grendel wrote on Jul 5th, 2017 at 8:42am:
I don't know why you guys bother about what are essentially political documents.
The original treatise and its in writing somewhere mantra has posted it before states that the main reason for the IPCC is simply global wealth redistribution.

You should back it up bros  Cheesy

Ask mantra...
i'm too busy to look right now.
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Reply #139 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 3:33pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 11:59am:
7°C.


So two doublings of CO2. 1120ppm.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

That would mean no mitigation strategies like nuclear.
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Reply #140 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 3:35pm
 
That was a bit of a joke, really. Trust you not to get that  Wink

Nice to see how up to date you are with the CO2/temperature relationship tho.
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Reply #141 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 3:49pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 3:35pm:
That was a bit of a joke, really.


Or just a dumbarse comment from Bluff, Bluster and Bullshit. Wink
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Reply #142 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 3:50pm
 
No, it was my comment, not yours  Wink
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Reply #143 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 4:01pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 6th, 2017 at 1:12pm:
Christ, DRAH, can you shrink that image?

It says .7°C increase a year. I just multiplied by 10 and 100, doubt it will work like that DRAH  Grin

- image: no can do,... I'm on the iPad and it's all a guessing game!

- I thought you said 0.7 per decade,... or 0.07 per year? I simply halved it because you didn't give me an error value and presented it as a conservative estimate of which I still questioned!



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Reply #144 - Jul 6th, 2017 at 5:10pm
 
The article said 0.7°C increase every year.

When you work out figures for a decade (7°C) etc it doesn’t seem realistic.
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Reply #145 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 1:22am
 
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WASHINGTON — When it splits off, the Delaware-sized chunk of ice now barely clinging to one of Antarctica’s largest ice shelves will become one of the most massive icebergs in recorded history, scientists say.

For over two years, the U.K.-based Project MIDAS has been monitoring a large, fast-moving rift in the Larsen C ice shelf, located on the northern end of the Antarctic Peninsula. On Wednesday, researchers with the European Space Agency released a detailed analysis of the soon-to-be iceberg.

Data collected from ESA’s CryoSat satellite, which measures and monitors polar ice in Greenland and Antarctica, shows the iceberg will likely have an area of more than 2,500 square miles — larger than the island of Bali in Indonesia.

It’s expected to be about 620 feet thick and contain about 277 cubic miles of ice, according to ESA. Below the surface, the iceberg could reach a depth of nearly 700 feet.

“This is a single piece which is remarkable I guess because it’s of somewhat biblical proportions,” Mark Drinkwater, head of the mission science division at ESA’s European Space Research and Technology Centre, told Mashable.

In a post to Twitter, Drinkwater said the hype around the impending separation has given rise to the term “bergxit.” 


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Researchers warn the iceberg will likely be so large that it could pose a risk to maritime traffic.

“Whole or in pieces, ocean currents could drag it north, even as far as the Falkland Islands,” located east of South America’s southern peninsula, Anna Hogg of the University of Leeds said in a statement. “If so it could pose a hazard for ships in Drake Passage” ― a stretch of ocean between South America’s Cape Horn and Antarctica.

At 21,000 square miles, Larsen C is the largest ice shelf in the region. In recent years, however, what started as a small fracture has moved rapidly through the frozen structure, widening to more than 1,000 feet.

During the month of December, the rift grew by more than 10 miles, followed by another 6 miles in the first few weeks of January. Between May 25 and May 31, it grew by an astounding 11 miles — over 1.5 miles per day.

Today, the fissure is over 120 miles long, and only about three miles from reaching the ocean, according to ESA’s new analysis.

“The iceberg remains attached to the ice shelf, but its outer end is moving at the highest speed ever recorded on this ice shelf,” researchers with Project MIDAS wrote in a blog post last week. “We still can’t tell when calving will occur — it could be hours, days or weeks — but this is a notable departure from previous observations.”

Project MIDAS estimates the calving event will remove more than 10 percent of the Larsen C shelf, leaving the ice at “its most retreated position ever recorded.”

Along with fundamentally changing the Antarctic Peninsula, scientists worry a break-off could destabilize the entire shelf, meaning Larsen C could be headed for a similar fate as nearby Larsen A and Larsen B, which collapsed and disintegrated in 1995 and 2002, respectively.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/larsen-c-ice-shelf-iceberg_us_595d1c68e4b...

This happened with Greenland too, the ice shelves around it disappeared and the warmer waters that melted them then started working on the glaciers at sea level, causing more ice to be lost from those glaciers. Greenland is losing 200Gtons of ice a year, if Antarctica starts losing ice like that sea level rise will accelerate again.

The bit of the shelf, once fully free won’t change sea level, but the ice calved from sea level Antarctic glaciers will.
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Reply #146 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 7:41am
 
Ice is increasing in Greenland.






Greenland Coldest Temperature Ever Recorded in Northern Hemisphere in July (409)


Published on Jul 6, 2017

Incredibly the coldest temperature ever recorded in the Northern Hemisphere was July 05, 2017 at Summit Station on GREENLAND. Additionally the mass surface ice budget is blowing away all records from the 1981-2010 averages. This was not predicted in the IPCC climate models, but all we still get are stories of microbes being unearthed in melting permafrost that will wipe out humanity. If this were true then the Nomoli figures from Sierra Leone could never have been created 17,000 years ago as it was warmer then and there would have been more microbes released from the permafrost.
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Reply #147 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 8:46am
 
Yes Boobhead?

Greenland nevertheless lost a huge amount of ice this NH summer. What Liar Dubyne is talking about is just the surface ice loss/gain.

I have been looking at the surface ice melt, certainly not a usual pattern. This should tell us much more about what is happening on the top of the Greenland ice sheet.
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Reply #148 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 9:41am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 8th, 2017 at 8:46am:
Yes Bobby?

Greenland nevertheless lost a huge amount of ice this NH summer. What Liar Dubyne is talking about is just the surface ice loss/gain.

I have been looking at the surface ice melt, certainly not a usual pattern. This should tell us much more about what is happening on the top of the Greenland ice sheet.



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Reply #149 - Jul 8th, 2017 at 10:04am
 
Do you know what it is evidence of?

Despite the surface mass gain Greenland continued losing ice on a massive scale.

Antarctica is about to start doing the same.

Dubyne had his arse handed to him on a plate about his Arctic “cold” rubbish, didn’t he?

I have read about algae and stuff living on the surface of melting ice. I never read any crap about it wiping out all life on earth. Dubyne is a confirmed liar.
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