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The BIG SECRET on your electricity supply
Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:08pm
 
There is something happening big time in the area of poles and wires with your Electricity Supply. Bear in mind if the wires and the poles aren't maintained then you won't have a supply.

Since the Baird Governments disgraceful sell off of the Grid this is what is happening.

Case in point

In the Penrith area of maintenance for poles and wires there used to be 125 active personnel in the field maintaining the Poles and Wires for your supply.

Since the axe murderers have got into the act 100 personnel have been retrenched. There now is a paltry 25 workers to upkeep the vast Penrith area.

If you extrapolate that across the whole of the NSW Grid then we are now in a state of crisis with regard to maintenance of the Electricity Grid.

This is exactly what happened in Victoria whose grid is now a patchwork concern and where outages are constant.

You can look forward to this in New South Wales as our previously highly maintained network falls into a state of disrepair.
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Reply #1 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:14pm
 
I am not surprised. There is no immediate profit in preventive maintenance, or in having enough personnel on hand to deal with an emergency, therefore maintenance is first thing to go when government assets are privatised. Angry
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Reply #2 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:21pm
 
This is what happens when accountants get free reighn

Short term profits against longevity.

Watch them all run and sell it off at a huge profit when it all starts failing, govco will have to step in and fund repairs.
Then when its all fixed, they will sell them off again.....round and round and round.
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Reply #3 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm
 
red baron wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
There is something happening big time in the area of poles and wires with your Electricity Supply. Bear in mind if the wires and the poles aren't maintained then you won't have a supply.

Since the Baird Governments disgraceful sell off of the Grid this is what is happening.

Case in point

In the Penrith area of maintenance for poles and wires there used to be 125 active personnel in the field maintaining the Poles and Wires for your supply.

Since the axe murderers have got into the act 100 personnel have been retrenched. There now is a paltry 25 workers to upkeep the vast Penrith area.

If you extrapolate that across the whole of the NSW Grid then we are now in a state of crisis with regard to maintenance of the Electricity Grid.

This is exactly what happened in Victoria whose grid is now a patchwork concern and where outages are constant.

You can look forward to this in New South Wales as our previously highly maintained network falls into a state of disrepair.


You neglected to mention the fact that work is also contracted out as necessary. The contractors service a number of suburbs and regions.

With productivity gains and technological improvements distribution system reliability should improve every year which means that fewer workers are required.
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Reply #4 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:07pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm:
red baron wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
There is something happening big time in the area of poles and wires with your Electricity Supply. Bear in mind if the wires and the poles aren't maintained then you won't have a supply.

Since the Baird Governments disgraceful sell off of the Grid this is what is happening.

Case in point

In the Penrith area of maintenance for poles and wires there used to be 125 active personnel in the field maintaining the Poles and Wires for your supply.

Since the axe murderers have got into the act 100 personnel have been retrenched. There now is a paltry 25 workers to upkeep the vast Penrith area.

If you extrapolate that across the whole of the NSW Grid then we are now in a state of crisis with regard to maintenance of the Electricity Grid.

This is exactly what happened in Victoria whose grid is now a patchwork concern and where outages are constant.

You can look forward to this in New South Wales as our previously highly maintained network falls into a state of disrepair.


You neglected to mention the fact that work is also contracted out as necessary. The contractors service a number of suburbs and regions.

With productivity gains and technological improvements distribution system reliability should improve every year which means that fewer workers are required.


And pigs will fly, politicians will no longer lie and the whole world will be a better place.

At no time in the history of Australia has privitazitaion benefited the consumer.
In each and every case, costs have gone upward at a logarithmic rate, profits for the private owner have increased and the consumer gets less service and less functionality.

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Reply #5 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:41pm
 
Australian studies demonstrate that consumers are not worse off after electricity network privatization and indeed may be better off in terms of price and service interruptions:

http://www.uq.edu.au/economics/abstract/541.pdf

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It is clear from the above analysis that retail electricity customers in states with privately owned network companies (VIC and SA) have experienced the least of the average price rise over the long-term due to falling network costs.

The long term average network costs, which constitutes a significant proportion of the final electricity bill, has decreased in privately-owned networks in the NEM as opposed to a significant long-term increase (more than 100 percent) in states with publicly owned networks (NSW and QLD).

The long-term operating cost efficiency of the privately owned distribution networks in the NEM has increased unlike in publicly owned network where the operating costs increased significantly.

With regards to quality of electricity supply, the average duration and frequency of interruptions is lower than the NEM average in privately owned electricity networks.

However, NSW, where electricity networks are publicly owned, has also experienced lower interruptions than the NEM average unlike QLD and TAS. The change in average investment forecast in the current regulatory period (2011-2015) for SA and VIC exceeds 50 percent from the previous regulatory period (2006-2011) while QLD experienced around 35 percent increase. However, the change in average revenue forecasts in QLD exceeds the change in VIC and SA coinciding with the highest increase in the long-term retail electricity prices among all states. Furthermore, the significant share of return on capital as a revenue component indicates that electricity networks in QLD are overcapitalised than in VIC. These increases in network revenues in states like QLD and NSW reflects the coincidence of increases in the weighted average cost of capital and increasing capital expenditure (Productivity Commission, 2013).

Our results overall indicate, though not conclusive, that electricity consumers served by the privately owned electricity distribution companies in the NEM have not been worse off in terms of:
a) facing lower extent of long-term 23 electricity price rise and a long term decline in network costs,
b) electricity supply quality due to reduced duration and frequency of interruptions and
c) increase in network investments but not at the expense of rising electricity prices as compared to the electricity consumers served by state-owned network companies.

However, the results can be adverse as future network investments increase among the privately owned distribution companies in the NEM. These results give rise to several policy considerations.
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Reply #6 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:21pm
 
Unforgiven ...Private Contractors are a bunch of wankers without the specialised training that Integral Workers have, they will be in the same category as the Insulations idiots where a number got killed and their work was crap
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Reply #7 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:57pm
 
The Govt. should never sell off essential services.
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Reply #8 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:40pm
 
red baron wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:21pm:
Unforgiven ...Private Contractors are a bunch of wankers without the specialised training that Integral Workers have, they will be in the same category as the Insulations idiots where a number got killed and their work was crap


Damn, you are a boof head sometimes.  the MAJORITY of these contractors are actually the previously full-time employed workers!
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Reply #9 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 5:57pm:
The Govt. should never sell off essential services.


X2

Essential services are owned by the people, not the government.
and should be maintained by the government.

Selling essential services is theft by any standards.

And selling them off for the pittance they sell them for doubly so.

I still cannot grasp the reasonaing (other than a huge case of brown paper bag BRIBES) that govco sold off the lottery.
It was quite simply a licence to print money and the IIdiot5 sold it for next to nothing.

I wonder how much the public servant who set that little deal up got for it?

Probably enough to enjoy his/ her disgusting little life until they die.
Hopefully very, very soon and very, very, very painfully.
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Reply #10 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:47pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 4:41pm:
Australian studies demonstrate that consumers are not worse off after electricity network privatization and indeed may be better off in terms of price and service interruptions:

http://www.uq.edu.au/economics/abstract/541.pdf

Quote:
It is clear from the above analysis that retail electricity customers in states with privately owned network companies (VIC and SA) have experienced the least of the average price rise over the long-term due to falling network costs.

The long term average network costs, which constitutes a significant proportion of the final electricity bill, has decreased in privately-owned networks in the NEM as opposed to a significant long-term increase (more than 100 percent) in states with publicly owned networks (NSW and QLD).

The long-term operating cost efficiency of the privately owned distribution networks in the NEM has increased unlike in publicly owned network where the operating costs increased significantly.

With regards to quality of electricity supply, the average duration and frequency of interruptions is lower than the NEM average in privately owned electricity networks.

However, NSW, where electricity networks are publicly owned, has also experienced lower interruptions than the NEM average unlike QLD and TAS. The change in average investment forecast in the current regulatory period (2011-2015) for SA and VIC exceeds 50 percent from the previous regulatory period (2006-2011) while QLD experienced around 35 percent increase. However, the change in average revenue forecasts in QLD exceeds the change in VIC and SA coinciding with the highest increase in the long-term retail electricity prices among all states. Furthermore, the significant share of return on capital as a revenue component indicates that electricity networks in QLD are overcapitalised than in VIC. These increases in network revenues in states like QLD and NSW reflects the coincidence of increases in the weighted average cost of capital and increasing capital expenditure (Productivity Commission, 2013).

Our results overall indicate, though not conclusive, that electricity consumers served by the privately owned electricity distribution companies in the NEM have not been worse off in terms of:
a) facing lower extent of long-term 23 electricity price rise and a long term decline in network costs,
b) electricity supply quality due to reduced duration and frequency of interruptions and
c) increase in network investments but not at the expense of rising electricity prices as compared to the electricity consumers served by state-owned network companies.

However, the results can be adverse as future network investments increase among the privately owned distribution companies in the NEM. These results give rise to several policy considerations.


As for you my Naive and obtuse little fiend.

Speak to those in Victoria about how wonderful privation has been for their electricity supply.
How long were they out the other day when the storm hit?
How many people didn't get their power back for days and days?
And are they happy with the service and regular blackouts?

Not from the Victorians I know, they will tell you straight, its shite.
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Reply #11 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:48pm
 


The Govt. should never sell off essential services.



I might agree with that except, governments are gutless at charging correctly.

That causes all sorts of distortions and subsidies.
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Reply #12 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:56pm
 
Valkie wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:47pm:
As for you my Naive and obtuse little fiend.

Speak to those in Victoria about how wonderful privation has been for their electricity supply.
How long were they out the other day when the storm hit?
How many people didn't get their power back for days and days?
And are they happy with the service and regular blackouts?

Not from the Victorians I know, they will tell you straight, its shite.


I suspect Valkie knows Victorians of equally low IQ to Valkie's and equally uninformed as Valkie.

In 1994 Perth residents were without electricity for 2 weeks just because of first rain after a long dry spell. Western Power, a government utility, had not been performing cleaning of insulators which led to thousands of flashovers.

Valkie would have been better served by a black belt in English than a black belt in violence.
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Reply #13 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 7:21pm
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:40pm
 
Well I wish I knew what is going on, 49 blackouts since Jan '15 and approx 30 in the two years previous to that. I started jotting them down in Jan '15, just had two last night that lasted 3 1/2hrs each

This is 1920 in the 2000's out here, just a hundred miles from Sydney
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