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Re: The BIG SECRET on your electricity supply
Reply #15 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:47pm
 
miketrees wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 6:48pm:

The Govt. should never sell off essential services.



I might agree with that except, governments are gutless at charging correctly.

That causes all sorts of distortions and subsidies.




But the Govt. is not supposed to be running a business -

electricity is an essential service.

Private companies don't care if people lose their aircons in summer or heating in winter or
if business has to close down & lose money due to electricity cuts.

All they care about is making a profit.

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Reply #16 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:53pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
I am not surprised. There is no immediate profit in preventive maintenance, or in having enough personnel on hand to deal with an emergency, therefore maintenance is first thing to go when government assets are privatised. Angry


Crisis Management only - and that kind of operation is three kinds of crisis management... they only respond to a crisis, and are only capable of operating in an atmosphere of crisis, and they are in themselves a crisis.

the fourth side is, of course, their fundamental inability creates the crisis in the first place....

Stoopid as stoopid does.... and the Baird has not two brain cells to rub together.... installed in a crisis as our 'state premier', and full of nothing but empty headed responses to anything.....

Of course - we could always replace his empty head with some of our socialist brethren - who will form committees and discuss everything to death long before they act.......

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Re: The BIG SECRET on your electricity supply
Reply #17 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:55pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm:
red baron wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
There is something happening big time in the area of poles and wires with your Electricity Supply. Bear in mind if the wires and the poles aren't maintained then you won't have a supply.

Since the Baird Governments disgraceful sell off of the Grid this is what is happening.

Case in point

In the Penrith area of maintenance for poles and wires there used to be 125 active personnel in the field maintaining the Poles and Wires for your supply.

Since the axe murderers have got into the act 100 personnel have been retrenched. There now is a paltry 25 workers to upkeep the vast Penrith area.

If you extrapolate that across the whole of the NSW Grid then we are now in a state of crisis with regard to maintenance of the Electricity Grid.

This is exactly what happened in Victoria whose grid is now a patchwork concern and where outages are constant.

You can look forward to this in New South Wales as our previously highly maintained network falls into a state of disrepair.


You neglected to mention the fact that work is also contracted out as necessary. The contractors service a number of suburbs and regions.

With productivity gains and technological improvements distribution system reliability should improve every year which means that fewer workers are required.


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Reply #18 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 12:58am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 9:55pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:59pm:
red baron wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
There is something happening big time in the area of poles and wires with your Electricity Supply. Bear in mind if the wires and the poles aren't maintained then you won't have a supply.

Since the Baird Governments disgraceful sell off of the Grid this is what is happening.

Case in point

In the Penrith area of maintenance for poles and wires there used to be 125 active personnel in the field maintaining the Poles and Wires for your supply.

Since the axe murderers have got into the act 100 personnel have been retrenched. There now is a paltry 25 workers to upkeep the vast Penrith area.

If you extrapolate that across the whole of the NSW Grid then we are now in a state of crisis with regard to maintenance of the Electricity Grid.

This is exactly what happened in Victoria whose grid is now a patchwork concern and where outages are constant.

You can look forward to this in New South Wales as our previously highly maintained network falls into a state of disrepair.


You neglected to mention the fact that work is also contracted out as necessary. The contractors service a number of suburbs and regions.

With productivity gains and technological improvements distribution system reliability should improve every year which means that fewer workers are required.


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Re: The BIG SECRET on your electricity supply
Reply #19 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:20am
 
electricity is an essential service.



Private companies don't care if people lose their aircons in summer or heating in winter or
if business has to close down & lose money due to electricity cuts.

All they care about is making a profit.
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Reply #20 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:27am
 


All they care about is making a profit.

Then its up to the legislators to make sure that breakdowns become expensive for the suppliers.
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Reply #21 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:36am
 
miketrees wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:27am:
All they care about is making a profit.

Then its up to the legislators to make sure that breakdowns become expensive for the suppliers.


if you expect the government to help you on issues such as this then you haven't a prayer...

remember..

it was the Governments that Sold OUT the Australian public and sold off the grid in the first place..

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so here's my thoughts..

let the bastards push the prices higher and higher..

as technology is here to run off grid already.. but just a bit too expensive..

but not if Power starts sky rocketing... OFF grid will become very viable..
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Reply #22 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:40am
 


as technology is here to run off grid already.. but just a bit too expensive..

but not if Power starts sky rocketing... OFF grid will become very viable..



That is exactly why as a taxpayer I dont want to own the power distribution business.
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Reply #23 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 3:51pm
 
miketrees wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:27am:
All they care about is making a profit.

Then its up to the legislators to make sure that breakdowns become expensive for the suppliers.



Yes - like a week of free power every time we get a power cut.

Then they might employ more maintenance workers.
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Reply #24 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 5:42pm
 
longweekend..private contractors work to prices, not standards you BOOFHEAD..The work carried out by private contractors is way below the standard what was previously a Government responsibility.

My son who was an Integral High Voltage linesman said the private sector work is sloppy and they take shortcuts that should never be taken.
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Reply #25 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:24pm
 
We have an abundance of natural resources, Gas, Coal and other power sources.

We then sell these resources at stupid low prices to countries who laugh at our stupidity.

We should have some of the cheapest power in the world as we do not need to import gas or coal, but we don't.
Government policy, privately owned power, thieves and back door deals with our ever corrupt leaders means we pay through the nose for what is an essential  service.

Its simply amazing how we, in Australia always pay more for everything, from white goods to cars and boats.
Perhaps its no so amazing, with the corruption plagued government and public service, its a wonder we even have enough money to eat every week.

This was in 2011, its probably even worse now.
Good on ya govco, looking after the Australian people.................NOT

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Reply #26 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:32pm
 
Valkie is a total dope.

The international market for oil gas and coal is competitive whereas Australian regional markets are monopolies or oligopolies. If Australian producers attempted to charge prices higher than international market prices to overseas customers they would not sell any oil gas and coal.

Furthermore, the biggest mark ups in Australia occur at the retail distribution stage. It is distribution in Australia that is inefficient.
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Reply #27 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:43pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 6:32pm:
Valkie is a total dope.

The international market for oil gas and coal is competitive whereas Australian regional markets are monopolies or oligopolies. If Australian producers attempted to charge prices higher than international market prices to overseas customers they would not sell any oil gas and coal.

Furthermore, the biggest mark ups in Australia occur at the retail distribution stage. It is distribution in Australia that is inefficient.


Really, an imbecile such as yourself dares to cast aspersions on my mental capacity?

Tell me oh brilliant one.

With your infinite experience (sitting behind a computer all day)
And your infinite worldly experience. (sitting behind a computer all day)
And your wealth of working knowledge of the world and political machinations (serving behind Maccas counter all day)

What is your opinion on anything that would be of any interest to any human being?

You obviously have No Life, No ability, No knowledge and No capacity for intelligent thought.

Being a troll, is your only life.
I know, I know, but there is nothing else for you.
Women abhor you, men laugh at you and even your mother had to tie a pork chop around your neck to get the dog to play with you.

But its a sad life for you isn't it?
Ive seen and actually worked with people like you, sad little people who's only means of making themselves feel superior is by attempting to denigrate and belittle others.
But deep down, if you look inside yourself, you know that there is a simple reason everybody avoids you.
You are a toxic person, negative in all things, insulting and pathetic.

You are below me so far that I will no longer even acknowledge your existence.

You poor pathetic individual, I truly feel sorry for you.

I can only hope and pray that just once in your life you eventually get to be something more than what you are.

Sad, sad little individual

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Re: The BIG SECRET on your electricity supply
Reply #28 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:20pm
 


Yes - like a week of free power every time we get a power cut.

Then they might employ more maintenance workers.



Ahhh , Bobby you are getting the hang of it now.
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Re: The BIG SECRET on your electricity supply
Reply #29 - Dec 8th, 2016 at 8:49pm
 
miketrees wrote on Dec 8th, 2016 at 7:20pm:
Yes - like a week of free power every time we get a power cut.

Then they might employ more maintenance workers.



Ahhh , Bobby you are getting the hang of it now.



Thanks.
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