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Reply #90 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:38pm
 
You really are an android, aren't  you Labor? If they're  not fleeing persecution,  then they are illegal  immigrants. Can't  you grasp that patently obvious concept?
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Reply #91 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:51pm
 
double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Labor voter, don't get into a funk over the thought of cute little newborns. If Asha's parents are illegal immigrants; she gos back to Nepal with them.


Yes, correct.  Is that the case here though?  No.
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Reply #92 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:40pm
 
double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:38pm:
You really are an android, aren't  you Labor? If they're  not fleeing persecution,  then they are illegal  immigrants. Can't  you grasp that patently obvious concept?



How do you know that they are not fleeing persecution?

Have you seen their application for asylum?
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Reply #93 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 8:28pm
 
If you want to know all about asylum seekers and refugees here is a link to the government web site.
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Reply #94 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 8:44pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 9:22pm:
Dnarever wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 8:09pm:
Throw it out of an 11th floor window.

That's the sole right illegals have.


The baby was born here - nothing illegal about that ?

In fact there is no place for stupid emotive labelling particularly when it isn't even correct.


yes, its mother is an illegal


She was convicted of what ?

What law has she broken ?

When is the trial ?
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Reply #95 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 8:48pm
 
double plus good wrote on Feb 19th, 2016 at 9:23pm:
The problem is; they're  not your comments. You've  simply been indoctrinated  to parrot  every bit of leftist mumbo jumbo going around.



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Reply #96 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 8:50pm
 
The only reason to not let Asha stay is the 2016 election.

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Reply #97 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:06pm
 
Labor voter wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:38pm:
You really are an android, aren't  you Labor? If they're  not fleeing persecution,  then they are illegal  immigrants. Can't  you grasp that patently obvious concept?



How do you know that they are not fleeing persecution?

Have you seen their application for asylum?

Oh? So whatever they say on their application is true?


And you do not get citizenship simply for being born in a country. Certainly not if your parents are in Australia illegally. Don't be a clown.




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Reply #98 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:35pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:06pm:
Labor voter wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:38pm:
You really are an android, aren't  you Labor? If they're  not fleeing persecution,  then they are illegal  immigrants. Can't  you grasp that patently obvious concept?



How do you know that they are not fleeing persecution?

Have you seen their application for asylum?

Oh? So whatever they say on their application is true?


And you do not get citizenship simply for being born in a country. Certainly not if your parents are in Australia illegally. Don't be a clown.







Asha parents are not in the country illegal.

This is from the government web site all about asylum seekers

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It is not a crime to enter Australia without authorisation for the purpose of seeking asylum. Asylum seekers do not break any Australian laws simply by arriving on boats or without authorisation. Article 31 of the Refugee Convention clearly states that refugees should not be penalised for arriving without valid travel documents. What may be considered an illegal action under normal circumstances (e.g. entering a country without a visa) should not, according to the Convention, be considered illegal if a person is seeking asylum. Australian and international law make these allowances because it is not always safe or even possible for asylum seekers to obtain travel documents or travel through authorised channels. Refugees are, by definition, people fleeing persecution and in most cases are being persecuted by their own governments. It is often too dangerous for refugees to apply for a passport or exit visa or approach an Australian Embassy for a visa, as this could put their lives, and the lives of their families, at risk. Refugees may also be forced to flee with little notice due to rapidly deteriorating situations and do not have time to apply for travel documents or arrange travel through authorised channels. In other cases, refugees may be unable to obtain travel documents because they do not have identity documentation or because they cannot meet the necessary visa requirements. Australia has very restrictive policies which work to prevent citizens of countries where persecution is widespread from getting access to temporary visas of any kind. These policies leave many people seeking to flee to Australia with no way of entering in an authorised manner. Permitting asylum seekers to enter a country without travel documents is similar to allowing ambulance drivers to exceed the speed limit in an emergency – the action may ordinarily be illegal but, in order to protect lives at risk, an exception is made.[8]



http://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_L...

Now show everyone where does it say that asylum seekers are illegal
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Reply #99 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm
 
Soren wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:06pm:
Labor voter wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:38pm:
You really are an android, aren't  you Labor? If they're  not fleeing persecution,  then they are illegal  immigrants. Can't  you grasp that patently obvious concept?



How do you know that they are not fleeing persecution?

Have you seen their application for asylum?

Oh? So whatever they say on their application is true?


And you do not get citizenship simply for being born in a country. Certainly not if your parents are in Australia illegally. Don't be a clown.







i notice no one answer this question that I put on this thread reply #86 at 2.00 pm today

So answer this

You have a German wife and a Polish husband and they have been living here for 5 years.

They are not nationalize  Australians and they have a baby, what nationality is the baby, German, Polish or Australian?


Now come on what citizenship is this baby when she is born in Australia.
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Reply #100 - Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:57pm
 
Labor voter wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Soren wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 11:06pm:
Labor voter wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:38pm:
You really are an android, aren't  you Labor? If they're  not fleeing persecution,  then they are illegal  immigrants. Can't  you grasp that patently obvious concept?



How do you know that they are not fleeing persecution?

Have you seen their application for asylum?

Oh? So whatever they say on their application is true?


And you do not get citizenship simply for being born in a country. Certainly not if your parents are in Australia illegally. Don't be a clown.







i notice no one answer this question that I put on this thread reply #86 at 2.00 pm today

So answer this

You have a German wife and a Polish husband and they have been living here for 5 years.

They are not nationalize  Australians and they have a baby, what nationality is the baby, German, Polish or Australian?


Now come on what citizenship is this baby when she is born in Australia.
It is not Australian. The authorities will probably go with the mothers nationality.
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Reply #101 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 6:56am
 
Labor voter wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 2:01pm:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 10:17am:
double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 9:49am:
Labor voter wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 9:34am:
Since when has it become legal to sent Australians to oversea detention centre?

Baby Asha was born in Australia so that makes her  a Australian. It doesn't matter where her parents come from is was born in Australian

So if a couple of tourists are on holiday in Australia and the pregnant  lady tourist  has her baby here does that make the baby an Australian?


Absolutely not.



So answer this

You have a German wife and a Polish husband and they have been living here for 5 years.

They are not nationalize  Australians and they have a baby, what nationality is the baby, German, Polish or Australian?


Usually the nationality of the father, so Polish. Definitely not Australian.
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Reply #102 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 6:58am
 
Labor voter wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 4:34pm:
double plus good wrote on Feb 20th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
Labor voter, don't get into a funk over the thought of cute little newborns. If Asha's parents are illegal immigrants; she gos back to Nepal with them.



If Asha's parents are illegal immigrants;

Get it through your thick head Asha parents are not illegal immigrants they are asylum seekers and there is nothing wrong with someone seeking asylum.

You could go to England and seek asylum then it is up to the British government to grant you asylum or reject your application for asylum. We don't know if the Australian government has approve or reject Asha parents application for asylum.


They attempted to immigrate to Australia illegally, after the government explicitly told people not to use people smugglers and that if they did so they would never be settled in Australia. The High Court has backed this government on this.
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Reply #103 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:05am
 
Protesters check cars leaving hospital for baby Asha

HUNDREDS of protesters are covering exits at a Brisbane hospital after fears authorities planned to move asylum seeker baby Asha.

Up to 200 protesters are at Lady Cilento Children’s Hospital after rumours swirled on social media earlier today that she would be moved on Saturday ahead of being sent to Nauru.

Authorities have denied the rumours, with Queensland Health posting on Twitter tonight that they understood baby Asha would remain at the hospital “at least overnight”.

Protesters today gathered in droves, checking any cars leaving the hospital.

Earlier they swarmed two police vehicles, looking through windows to make sure the 13-month-old was not smuggled inside.

A large police presence has now joined the crowd, approaching protesters who become agitated.

Queensland Health asked protesters “to respect other patients and staff”.

The group has organised shifts to ensure a presence remains outside the hospital around the clock.

http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/protesters-check-cars-leaving-brisban...
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Reply #104 - Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:07am
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 21st, 2016 at 7:05am:
Protesters check cars leaving hospital for baby Asha

HUNDREDS of protesters are covering exits at a Brisbane hospital after fears authorities planned to move asylum seeker baby Asha.

Up to 200 protesters are at Lady Cilento Children’s Hospital after rumours swirled on social media earlier today that she would be moved on Saturday ahead of being sent to Nauru.

Authorities have denied the rumours, with Queensland Health posting on Twitter tonight that they understood baby Asha would remain at the hospital “at least overnight”.

Protesters today gathered in droves, checking any cars leaving the hospital.

Earlier they swarmed two police vehicles, looking through windows to make sure the 13-month-old was not smuggled inside.

A large police presence has now joined the crowd, approaching protesters who become agitated.

Queensland Health asked protesters “to respect other patients and staff”.

The group has organised shifts to ensure a presence remains outside the hospital around the clock.

http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/protesters-check-cars-leaving-brisban...


These lunatics are harassing ordinary people leaving the hospital - patients, families and staff who have nothing whatsoever to do with this baby. If it were me driving away and they blocked my path, I wouldn't stop and I absolutely wouldn't let any of those lunatics search my car. Police need to erect barricades to prevent protesters blocking driveways at the hospital.
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