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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Why Mr Dutton cannot let baby Asha stay Reply #120 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:28pm I have explained that there is a widespread and horrific sex trade in Nepal that one could very easily need to flee from. I notice neither of you actually answered the question either.
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Reply #121 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:29pm

double plus good wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:26pm:

The refugee crisis in Nepal is being solved by housing refugees in UN supervised camps while they are being repatriated. I can't make it any clearer than that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_in_Nepal

I can't find any reference to rape, murder, etc.

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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Why Mr Dutton cannot let baby Asha stay Reply #122 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:31pm Stratos, it's a real character flaw not being able to admit when your wrong.
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Reply #123 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:39pm

double plus good wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:31pm:

Stratos, it's a real character flaw not being able to admit when your wrong.

Is that just you admitting that you DON'T know for sure their circumstances of why they sought asylum in Australia for sure?

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:29pm:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_in_Nepal

I can't find any reference to rape, murder, etc.

LOL you think Nepalese refugee camps are for Nepalese people! Grin

That's the one people they CAN'T be for.

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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double plus good Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5693 Gender:	Re: Why Mr Dutton cannot let baby Asha stay Reply #124 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:44pm You've demonstrated your willingness to outright lie. I just couldn't be a.r.s.e.d.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Why Mr Dutton cannot let baby Asha stay Reply #125 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:44pm double plus good wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:44pm: You've demonstrated your willingness to outright lie. Where? Please link the post where I lied.
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Reply #126 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:46pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 11:37am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 11:17am:

There's a lot of 'sex trafficking' in the Third World that is voluntary and initiated by parents themselves who sell their daughters to the traffickers,

I wouldn't call that "voluntary"

It's consensual and very widely practiced, especially by farming families who are suffering dought and disease of their crops.

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Reply #127 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 6:11pm

Stratos wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:19pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:18pm:

There was no overriding threat compelling Asha's parent to bundle themselves into a people smuggling boat.

How do you know this. Just curious.

Nepal is not a place you flee as a refugee.

As an economic refugee, sure. But not as a political one.

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Reply #128 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 6:14pm

Labor voter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 11:35pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

Labor voter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:40pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 4:38pm:

You really are an android, aren't you Labor? If they're not fleeing persecution, then they are illegal immigrants. Can't you grasp that patently obvious concept?

How do you know that they are not fleeing persecution?

Have you seen their application for asylum?

Oh? So whatever they say on their application is true?

And you do not get citizenship simply for being born in a country. Certainly not if your parents are in Australia illegally. Don't be a clown.

Asha parents are not in the country illegal.

Why are they detained then?

You do not detain legal entrants unless they are criminals.

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Its time Gold Member Offline Boot libs out Posts: 25639 Gender:	Re: Reply #129 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 6:21pm Why Mr Dutton cannot let baby Asha stay? Now look what you have gone and done Dutton, the righties are completely lost now.
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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Why Mr Dutton cannot let baby Asha stay Reply #130 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 9:25pm Soren wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 6:11pm: Nepal is not a place you flee as a refugee. As an economic refugee, sure. But not as a political one. Anywhere is somewhere you can flee from as a refugee depending on your circumstance.
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Reply #131 - Feb 21^st, 2016 at 9:39pm

Soren wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 6:14pm:

Labor voter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 11:35pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 11:06pm:

Labor voter wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:40pm:

double plus good wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 4:38pm:

You really are an android, aren't you Labor? If they're not fleeing persecution, then they are illegal immigrants. Can't you grasp that patently obvious concept?

How do you know that they are not fleeing persecution?

Have you seen their application for asylum?

Oh? So whatever they say on their application is true?

And you do not get citizenship simply for being born in a country. Certainly not if your parents are in Australia illegally. Don't be a clown.

Asha parents are not in the country illegal.

Why are they detained then?

You do not detain legal entrants unless they are criminals.

I never thought you would be so dumb that id need to repeat things over and over to you. Asylum seekers being detained for identification and processing in no way makes them criminals. Dipstick.

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Reply #132 - Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 4:43am

Stratos wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:28pm:

I have explained that there is a widespread and horrific sex trade in Nepal that one could very easily need to flee from.

I notice neither of you actually answered the question either.

It's patently deceitful nonsense that Nepalese girls have to be brought all the way to Australia in order to find safe sanction, instead of them being put in refugee camps just across the border in India where UN workers backed by millions of dollars from Western governments can supply their needs.

And, pray tell, why is the Nepalese government, with the help of Western agencies not able to identify and jail these traffickers?

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Reply #133 - Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:21am

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 4:43am:

Stratos wrote on Feb 21^st, 2016 at 12:28pm:

I have explained that there is a widespread and horrific sex trade in Nepal that one could very easily need to flee from.

I notice neither of you actually answered the question either.

It's patently deceitful nonsense that Nepalese girls have to be brought all the way to Australia in order to find safe sanction, instead of them being put in refugee camps just across the border in India where UN workers backed by millions of dollars from Western governments can supply their needs.

And, pray tell, why is the Nepalese government, with the help of Western agencies not able to identify and jail these traffickers?

India has not signed the refugee convention

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Reply #134 - Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:26am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2016 at 5:21am:

India has not signed the refugee convention

They don't have to be. Indonesia is not a signatory either, but they have camps with hundreds of country-shoppers over there waiting for the Australian Labor Party to return.

Western largesse can rent space from the Indian government to set up a camp.

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