The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 10:00am:

Very interesting.

A few deniers will now have to find new lies, new lines of bullsh1t.

Conclusions
The insect faunas, Coleoptera, Trichoptera, Diptera
and ectoparasites, recovered from the bishop’s
farm in Gardar provide an interesting insight into
the environmental history of the area. Although the
samples were recovered from outside the immedi-
ate environs of the farm, they indicate a mixture of
synanthropic and natural faunas.
During the Norse period, the natural faunas are
dominated by aquatic invertebrates. In particular
the wealth of the caddis flies has provided the
opportunity for the first study of Trichoptera from a
North Atlantic context. The synanthropic assem-
blages are typical of faunas associated with the
interiors of Norse farm houses and their residents.
The combination of an extensive wetland and
grassland insect fauna with species which must
derive from the artificially warm habitats provided
by the farm and its outbuildings, taken with the
archaeological evidence, combine to indicate an
integrated system of manuring and irrigation in
order to increase yields in the extensive hayfields
which surrounded the cathedral farm at Garðar
during the medieval period.
The abrupt nature of the contact at the base of
the stratigraphic succession suggests the removal
of the previous soil surface, perhaps as turves for
fuel and construction. It is suggested that the exten-
sive landscape modification which allowed this
process to be carried out reflects the arrival of the
first bishop, Arnald, in 1126, who with previous
experience in Norway, was able to organize labour
to construct ditches and carry farmyard and domes-
tic waste out onto the fields.
The change in the nature of organic accumula-
tion and changes in the insect faunas in the upper
part of the sequence are consistent with the aban-
donment of the Norse farms in the late medieval
period. The landscape then became an extensive
wetland.
Acknowledgements
Fieldwork in Greenland formed part of projects
funded by the Leverhulme Trust (UK) by a grant to
Professor K.J. Edwards, University of Aberdeen,
Professor A.J. Dugmore and Dr Eva Panagiotako-
pulu, University of Edinburgh, and Professor I.A.
Simpson, University of Stirling. The authors are
grateful for the comments of Kevin Edwards and
Ed Schofield, with whom the original field-
work was carried out, and to Jette Arneborg and
Guðmundur Ólafsson for much interesting discus-
sion. Anastasios Panagiotakopoulos is thanked for
drawing the map and site plan, and Laura Evans for
sorting the samples. Thanks are also due to the
farmer at Igaliku, Klaus Egede and to Georg Nye-
gaard, then Curator of the museum at Narsaq, for
facilitating the research

Not true at all.

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 1:17pm:

When someone quotes the Wattsup denialist site they have ni good argument!

When someone quotes the Wattsup denialist site they have ni good argument!

Because you are too dumb to look at the links to scientific papers.

So by the layout of a few traces of moraines, they could tell, without any type of dating, that they pre-dated the Little Ice Age?

We use cosmogenic beryllium-10 dating to develop a moraine chronology with century-scale resolution over the last millennium and show that alpine glaciers in Baffin Island and western Greenland were at or near their maximum LIA configurations during the proposed general timing of the MWP

They have no clue, but MAY have or as we all know the fail of may not have.

So one paper can demolish the MWP?

they could tell, without any type of dating, that they pre-dated the Little Ice Age?

They could tell, by their layout, that they pre-dated the LIA. Before any testing.

Are you sure about that Stratos???

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Chimp_Logic wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 5:08pm:




master Chimp knows more than Thomas McGovern.

I just wish you would look at the facts regarding this rather than whatever your uninformed opinion has already concluded.

http://herc.gc.cuny.edu/files/2011/10/image002.jpghttp://herc.gc.cuny.edu/files/2011/10/image002.jpghttp://herc.gc.cuny.edu/files/2011/10/image002.jpg

Chimp_Logic wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 7:27pm:



You got his photo right. 3 cheers.

Yes, yes. The MWP wasn't global

I see that you have been slaughtered once again in public - this time by an amateur named Stratos.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 8:30pm:


Yes, Set up by a lying University.

Chimp_Logic wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 11:58pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 3:50pm:


Have you read the scientific paper the article is talking about?

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:25pm:



Yes, I remember UWA, once home of Lewandowsky.

Lomborg the climate believer; just not an alarmist.

'In 2009, Business Insider cited Lomborg as one of "The 10 Most-Respected Global Warming Skeptics".[2] While Lomborg campaigned against the Kyoto Protocol and other measures to cut carbon emissions in the short-term, he argued for adaptation to short-term temperature rises, and for spending money on research and development for longer-term environmental solutions. His issue is not with the reality of climate change, but rather with the economic and political approaches being taken (or not taken) to meet the challenges of that climate change.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

Only wiki I know; but referenced.

Which article??? the OP, or the you linked (with all the jargon??).

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 4:00pm:


Look past the title, and you will find a very different depiction of what is actually going on....  You read past the title right?

lee wrote on Dec 7^th, 2015 at 1:40pm:

It is quite obvious why the AGW church does not want adaptation. They don't get their power and no money will ever be spent because their will be nothing to adapt to.

A new study questions the popular notion that 10th-century Norse people were able to colonize Greenland because of a period of unusually warm weather. Researchers say the climate was already cold when the Norse arrived -- and that climate thus probably played little role in their mysterious demise some 400 years later. On a larger scale, the study adds to building evidence that the so-called Medieval Warm Period, when Europe enjoyed clement weather, did not necessarily extend to other parts of the world.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151204145919.htm


The concept of the Medieval warm period is Eurocentric--that's where the best-known observations were made. The findings fit with other recently developed evidence that the effects of the Medieval Warm Period were not uniform; some places, including parts of central Eurasia and northwestern North America, may actually have cooled off.

In the Atlantic region, the research includes a 2013 study of ocean-bottom sediments suggesting that temperatures in the western North Atlantic actually went down as the eastern North Atlantic warmed.

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 6^th, 2015 at 10:00am:

Medieval warm period warmer than today.

Dahl_Jensen et al 1998
Wagner & Melles 2001
Kaplan et al 2002
Jiang et al 2002
Moore et al 2001
Grudd et al 2002
Seppa & Birks 2002
Dansgaard et al 1975
Korhola et al 2000
Naurzbaev et al 2002
Vaganov et el 1996
Briffa et al 1998
Scweingruber & Briffa 1996
Knudsen et al 2004
Grinsted et al 2006
Besonen et al 2008
Wagner et al 2008
Vare et al 2009
Norgaard-Pedersen & Mikkelsen 2009
Andresen et al 2004
Vinther et al 2010
Kobashi et al 2010
Kobashi et al 2008
Stuiver et al 1995
Dansgaard et al 1975
Jenings & Weiner 1996
Johnsen et al 2001
Vinther et al 2010
Larsen et al 2011
Hill et al 2001
Joynt & Wolfe 2001
Hantemirov & Shiyatov 2002
Andersson et al 2003
Helama et al 2005
Mazepa 2005
Weckstrom et al 2006
Jiang et al 2007
Zabenski & Gajewski 2007
Grudd 2008
Justwan et al 2008
Scire et al 2008
Axford et al 2009
Bjune et al 2009
Cook et al 2009
Fortin & Gajewski 2010
Buntgen et al 2011
Divine et al 2011
Ran et al 2011
Velle et al 2011
D’Andrea et al 2012
Esper et al 2012

The paper you obviously still haven't read, which only covers one particular geographic area, and has nothing to do with global climate?

That one? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes