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Reply #45 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 3:51pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:43pm:
Whats Hockeys answer...force the pension age out to 150?  Grin Grin Grin




That's good   Smiley


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Reply #46 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 6:52pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 8:01am:
Amazing how 18 months ago it was all about the debt, debt debt, now no one cares

no, the right would rather bury their heads ...besides, whats the point? they'll just tell themselves its labors fault and ignore the evidence no matter what anyone puts up!



I suppose we just have to forgive the Liberals?

They know not what they do.
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Reply #47 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 7:36pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 8:01am:
Amazing how 18 months ago it was all about the debt, debt debt, now no one cares

no, the right would rather bury their heads ...besides, whats the point? they'll just tell themselves its labors fault and ignore the evidence no matter what anyone puts up!



Why aren't Liberal party members rioting in the streets?

Debt & budget deficits was all they talked about before the last election.

http://www.australiandebtclock.com.au/


Our debt is now  $362  billion.

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Reply #48 - Oct 1st, 2014 at 8:02pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 10:07am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 8:02am:
Armchair_Politician wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 7:02am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 26th, 2014 at 6:49am:
Remember, Labor deficit bad.

Liberal deficit good, spent on worthwhile things like..........war.

Are the submarines included in that? What are they for again? Looking for MH 370?


You forget a lot, don't you? Stephen Smith (Labor) is the one who got the ball rolling on purchasing new subs to replace the Collins-Class fleet, not Abbott. Oh and by the way, most of the current budget is Labor policy because the Coalition hasn't been allowed to have its own policies pass in the Senate. So if you want to blame anyone, blame Swan, as it's simply a continuation of his policies. Hockey is doing the best he can in light of a hostile Senate determined to say no to everything.


it doesn't need to be 'allowed'
... the coalition is the govt. If it can't do its job it should resign and let someone else do it ...



what the hell do you think parliament is there for???


....and the Senate to exercise oversight when the parl-e-a-ment gets above itself.....
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Re: Libs More than double the Deficit
Reply #49 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 7:11am
 
PZ547 wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 3:51pm:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:43pm:
Whats Hockeys answer...force the pension age out to 150?  Grin Grin Grin




That's good   Smiley


Thanks for the laugh 


70 is enough isn't it?

A physiotherapist told me that half of all people aged over 50
have something wrong with their back.
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Reply #50 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 8:40am
 
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Falling real wages, rising unemployment, and fears about their job prospects are keeping Australians away from major department stores.

After retail spending grew by a paltry 0.1 per cent in August – the worst result in months – the dollar has plunged to an eight-month low.

Surprisingly weak sales last month put the brakes on a short burst of growth over June and July.

It comes after annual real wages growth fell to -0.5 per cent in the June quarter.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/poor-retail-sales-hit-department-stores-20141001-...

People are not spending because of:
1. A hangover of the private sector indebtedness  due to Howard & Costello.

2. Swan’s over–eager fiscal consolidation, especially the lunatic drive for a surplus, started unemployment growing

3. The relentless talking down of the economy by monkey & Hokey while in opposition

4. The relentless talking down of the economy by monkey & Hokey since they formed government

5. A harsh and unfair Budget, then the mishandling of and the Budget fraying into tatters. $30Bn of savings over 4 years, GONE!

Deflation and recession are just about here as is high unemployment and high inflation due to the falling dollar. Christ you read those economists talking in the linked article and you have to wonder what the hell they are smoking. One idiot said that people will be less likely to buy online from overseas when the prices in shops will be close to the overseas price. Hello? Where does the idiot think the shops get their stuff from? Overseas! Yes, genius! Online buying will always be cheaper.

As the dollar falls petrol gets dearer petrol (petrol, diesel, aviation fuel whatever—petroleum products) gets dearer and this feeds into all sorts of costs—the farmer pays more for diesel for his tractor, the trucky pays more for diesel for his truck to haul the produce to market or processors etc. Use of renewable energy in remote towns will allow them to switch their diesel generators off more often, diallowed by this miserable excuse of a govt.

Then the mini–Budget, needed not because the economics changed but because it was a bad Budget deservedly mauled in Parliament. So what nasties will the worst Treasurer after Howard then Costello bring in in December and will they get through the Senate or will we need a miniminiBudget. The stupidity just goes on.

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Reply #51 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 9:08am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 7:11am:
PZ547 wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 3:51pm:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:43pm:
Whats Hockeys answer...force the pension age out to 150?  Grin Grin Grin




That's good   Smiley


Thanks for the laugh 


70 is enough isn't it?

A physiotherapist told me that half of all people aged over 50
have something wrong with their back.



The common thread with almost all the conservative policy is that it ends up being the people who can least afford to pay have to supply the additional funding.
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Reply #52 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 9:11am
 
Expecting people to work till they are 70 years old, is a ridiculous idea.      Sad
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Reply #53 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 10:02am
 
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Expecting people to work till they are 70 years old, is a ridiculous idea.      Sad      


Whatcha mean sonny, I am almost 70 and still do some work!

We are not all useless you know!
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Reply #54 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 11:45am
 
To provide "SOME" Real World, non Political information -
1) A government Deficit is the figure, where the annual Expenditure, exceeds the annual Revenue.

2) A government Surplus is the figure, where the annual Revenue, exceeds the annual Expenditure.

3) A government Debt is the accumulation of both annual Deficits & Surpluses.

4) Globally, most governments have historically run at a modest Deficit & Debt, But both of these figures fluctuate depending on the Local & Global Economy & where the Economic cycle is, at any given point in time.

5) Due to the GFC, which "officially" commenced in 2007, most government Debt to GDP ratio's have increased Globally, although the reasons for these problems actually go back quite some time & governments of both major persuasions have contributed to a lack of adequate planning, going back some 30-50 years, both locally & Globally! 

6) Despite the fact that both Labor & Liberal have done "somewhat better" than many/most other countries, we still have a growing Debt problem. Not an emergency just yet, But it is heading in that direction.

7) To put our growing Debt problem into perspective, many other countries are far worse than Australia, for example on a NET DEBT basis & based on 2012 or 2013 figures, as per the following site, other countries bear roughly the following relationship to Australia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
Greece - 14 times worse
Japan - 12 times worse
Portugal - 10 times worse
Italy - 9 times worse
USA - 8 times worse
France - 7.5 times worse
United Kingdom - 7 times worse
Germany - 5 times worse

Conversely Norway & some of the Oil producing nations have substantial Surpluses NOT DEBT and consequently they are much better placed to withstand the GFC Mark2 which is about to revisit the Global Economy.

I expect that the GFC Mark2, when it arrives, which I expect will be sooner rather than later, will initially see a loss on most Global share markets, in the order of some 50%, irrespective of which Political Party/s happen to be in power.

That may not be nice news, But it is what is likely!   





    
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Reply #55 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 11:56am
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 10:02am:
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Expecting people to work till they are 70 years old, is a ridiculous idea.      Sad      


Whatcha mean sonny, I am almost 70 and still do some work!

We are not all useless you know!
  Cheesy


It isn't about choosing to do it - this gives people no option when many are probably not capable.

No way will I be able to be fully productive in the workforce at 70 if still above ground.
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Reply #56 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 5:31pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 9:08am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 7:11am:
PZ547 wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 3:51pm:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:43pm:
Whats Hockeys answer...force the pension age out to 150?  Grin Grin Grin




That's good   Smiley


Thanks for the laugh 


70 is enough isn't it?

A physiotherapist told me that half of all people aged over 50
have something wrong with their back.



The common thread with almost all the conservative policy is that it ends up being the people who can least afford to pay have to supply the additional funding.



People who voted for Abbott deserve to get ripped off.

Pity about the others who didn't.
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Reply #57 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 6:21pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 9:08am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 7:11am:
PZ547 wrote on Oct 1st, 2014 at 3:51pm:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 25th, 2014 at 5:43pm:
Whats Hockeys answer...force the pension age out to 150?  Grin Grin Grin




That's good   Smiley


Thanks for the laugh 


70 is enough isn't it?

A physiotherapist told me that half of all people aged over 50
have something wrong with their back.



The common thread with almost all the conservative policy is that it ends up being the people who can least afford to pay have to supply the additional funding.


funny though, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.  the people who can 'least afford to pay' are already not paying a cent in net govt contributions.
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Reply #58 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 6:22pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 11:56am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 10:02am:
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Expecting people to work till they are 70 years old, is a ridiculous idea.      Sad      


Whatcha mean sonny, I am almost 70 and still do some work!

We are not all useless you know!
  Cheesy


It isn't about choosing to do it - this gives people no option when many are probably not capable.

No way will I be able to be fully productive in the workforce at 70 if still above ground.


what utter nonsense.  most 70yos are fit, healthy and more than capable of working - and many still do.  you can retire when you want.  you can get the pension with you are 70.  get over it.
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Reply #59 - Oct 2nd, 2014 at 7:27pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 6:22pm:
Dnarever wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 11:56am:
Redmond Neck wrote on Oct 2nd, 2014 at 10:02am:
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Expecting people to work till they are 70 years old, is a ridiculous idea.      Sad      


Whatcha mean sonny, I am almost 70 and still do some work!

We are not all useless you know!
  Cheesy


It isn't about choosing to do it - this gives people no option when many are probably not capable.

No way will I be able to be fully productive in the workforce at 70 if still above ground.


what utter nonsense.  most 70yos are fit, healthy and more than capable of working - and many still do.  you can retire when you want.  you can get the pension with you are 70.  get over it.


says someone who's idea of 'work'is to walk into a room and listen to someone else give a lecture  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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