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Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report
Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:00pm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-01/nsw-chief-scientist-csg-report-published/5...

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A long-awaited review into Coal Seam Gas extraction in New South Wales has found that the industry was safe to proceed but stricter safeguards need to be put in place.

NSW Chief Scientist Professor Mary O'Kane delivered her independent report to the State Government after 19 months of investigating the CSG industry.

The report said the Government should implement clearer laws and stricter safeguards to protect landholders.

Professor O'Kane said CSG projects were contentious but it was not likely to be more dangerous or damaging than other industries.

"I think we can have reasonable confidence that it will proceed well as long as the appropriate legislative and compliance regime and risk regime is in place, and we do monitor things really well as we can with the technologies that are available and becoming better available and becoming more cheaply available," she said

Gee I suppose we have to listen to the science. Cheesy

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Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report
Reply #1 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:06pm

Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:00pm:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-01/nsw-chief-scientist-csg-report-published/5...

[quote]A long-awaited review into Coal Seam Gas extraction in New South Wales has found that the industry was safe to proceed but stricter safeguards need to be put in place.

NSW Chief Scientist Professor Mary O'Kane delivered her independent report to the State Government after 19 months of investigating the CSG industry.

The report said the Government should implement clearer laws and stricter safeguards to protect landholders.

Professor O'Kane said CSG projects were contentious but it was not likely to be more dangerous or damaging than other industries.

"I think we can have reasonable confidence that it will proceed well as long as the appropriate legislative and compliance regime and risk regime is in place, and we do monitor things really well as we can with the technologies that are available and becoming better available and becoming more cheaply available," she said[

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Gee I suppose we have to listen to the science. :D

Only when it suits it seems Angry

In other words not self regulation

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report Reply #2 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:08pm Lots of cash to be made and jobs to create. Sharpen those drills.....
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report Reply #3 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:11pm Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:08pm: Lots of cash to be made and jobs to create. Sharpen those drills..... It would seem that is the ONLY reason to do anything these days. ONWARDS SHEEPLE TO OUR DYSTOPIAN FUTURE!!!
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report Reply #4 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:23pm Oh lookout..... the CSG boogieman will get you......
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Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report
Reply #5 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:43pm

Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:23pm:

Oh lookout..... the CSG boogieman will get you......

If you refuse to see the pattern then I'm buggered if I'm going to waste my time trying to change your closed mind.

Watch government(& people like yourself) NOW suddenly point to science because it may counter some of the arguments against CSG.

Watch government approve CSG sighting the science.

Watch government allow the industry to self regulate.

Watch your tap water in 10 years catch on fire because as has been proven through experience time and time again, self regulation means no regulation.

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Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report
Reply #6 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:01pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:43pm:

Watch your tap water in 10 years catch on fire because as has been proven through experience time and time again, self regulation means no regulation.

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"I think we can have reasonable confidence that it will proceed well as long as the appropriate legislative and compliance regime and risk regime is in place,

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Reply #7 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:05pm

Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:01pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:43pm:

Watch your tap water in 10 years catch on fire because as has been proven through experience time and time again, self regulation means no regulation.

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"I think we can have reasonable confidence that it will proceed well as long as the appropriate legislative and compliance regime and risk regime is in place,

Yes I noted that in my 1st post.

Care to put a $100 on it will be self regulation.

I believe BP had all the correct statements & paperwork on deep drilling in the gulf.

All companies including mine have their correct pretty statements filed away & displayed when required.

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Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report
Reply #8 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:07pm

Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:00pm:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-01/nsw-chief-scientist-csg-report-published/5...

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A long-awaited review into Coal Seam Gas extraction in New South Wales has found that the industry was safe to proceed but stricter safeguards need to be put in place.

NSW Chief Scientist Professor Mary O'Kane delivered her independent report to the State Government after 19 months of investigating the CSG industry.

The report said the Government should implement clearer laws and stricter safeguards to protect landholders.

Professor O'Kane said CSG projects were contentious but it was not likely to be more dangerous or damaging than other industries.

"I think we can have reasonable confidence that it will proceed well as long as the appropriate legislative and compliance regime and risk regime is in place, and we do monitor things really well as we can with the technologies that are available and becoming better available and becoming more cheaply available," she said

Gee I suppose we have to listen to the science. Cheesy

What paragraph, or sentence, or line of the report state CSG harvesting is safe? Can only find only as dangerous or damaging as other industries!

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Reply #9 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:08pm

Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:00pm:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-01/nsw-chief-scientist-csg-report-published/5...

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A long-awaited review into Coal Seam Gas extraction in New South Wales has found that the industry was safe to proceed but stricter safeguards need to be put in place.

NSW Chief Scientist Professor Mary O'Kane delivered her independent report to the State Government after 19 months of investigating the CSG industry.

The report said the Government should implement clearer laws and stricter safeguards to protect landholders.

Professor O'Kane said CSG projects were contentious but it was not likely to be more dangerous or damaging than other industries.

"I think we can have reasonable confidence that it will proceed well as long as the appropriate legislative and compliance regime and risk regime is in place, and we do monitor things really well as we can with the technologies that are available and becoming better available and becoming more cheaply available," she said

Gee I suppose we have to listen to the science. Cheesy

Wonder how she'd go with a drill site in her back yard......

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Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report
Reply #10 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:10pm

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Govt. report claiming coal seam gas is safe

isn't worth the paper it's printed on

People around the globe have actively opposed CSG

People in Australia's rural sector have been and are active

and some have been injured and threatened with death

They're determined to push it through

Same with 'climate change'

Profits

While the citizens live above crumbling, toxic land that can never be put back together

but government claims CSG is safe

so who do you believe ?

Guess that answer relies to large degree on where you live and how badly you and yours will be affected

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Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report
Reply #11 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:19pm

Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:01pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:43pm:

Watch your tap water in 10 years catch on fire because as has been proven through experience time and time again, self regulation means no regulation.

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"I think we can have reasonable confidence that it will proceed well as long as the appropriate legislative and compliance regime and risk regime is in place,

Define 'appropriate'......

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Re: Coal seam Gas is safe - Govt report
Reply #12 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:23pm

Lobo wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:19pm:

Swagman wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 1:01pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2014 at 12:43pm:

Watch your tap water in 10 years catch on fire because as has been proven through experience time and time again, self regulation means no regulation.

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"I think we can have reasonable confidence that it will proceed well as long as the appropriate legislative and compliance regime and risk regime is in place,

Define 'appropriate'......

"Suitable or proper in the circumstances" which is engaged proviso to make a nothing report seem to have something when it has nothing apart from that already known, it has to be safe to be safe!

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Reply #14 - Oct 1^st, 2014 at 2:29pm

Actually self regulation in natural gas extraction is just as good as/ and often better than - statutory requirements.

The industry has been consolidating on extraction techniques and found that by shutting off deep dive valves and pumping all of it through 2 specific channels - we get both more gas and also the natural seepage rates reduce down to negligable amounts - certainly comparable to when the process first began large production.

I'd not do down self-regulation smithy, its certainly not companies doing what they like. The industry has very high standards or safety and public concern.

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