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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #75 - May 24^th, 2014 at 5:11pm Adamant wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 12:15pm: Is this "personal" abuse Gandalf. Yes and its been removed.
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41213 Gender:	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #76 - May 24^th, 2014 at 6:02pm True Colours wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 3:50pm: If you ask me, trying to prove that Muslims are inherently violent by using stats that show that Bankstown actually has less crime than the state average is weird on many levels. the stats show bankstown has higher crime than most of sydney
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52006 At my desk.	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #77 - May 24^th, 2014 at 6:08pm Muslims playing with statistics to hide Bankstown's obvious problem? No surprise there. If you don't acknowledge the problem, there is no need to solve it. Quote: The criminals ~ yes ~ "Deport them" the general Muslim community here would say. Can you quote one?
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Reply #78 - May 24^th, 2014 at 6:22pm

freediver wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 8:55am:

So why is Bankstown in the top 10 (out of 40?) in Sydney, but below average in NSW? Is it because rural areas have higher crime rates, or the top two or three areas push up the average?

Actually, looking at this site:

http://crimetool.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/bocsar/

Bankstown has one of the lowest robbery rates in Sydney. It was also amongst the lowest for malicious damage and drugs. Bankstown was roughly in the middle range in Sydney for most other crimes.

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Reply #79 - May 24^th, 2014 at 6:30pm

True Colours wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 6:22pm:

freediver wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 8:55am:

So why is Bankstown in the top 10 (out of 40?) in Sydney, but below average in NSW? Is it because rural areas have higher crime rates, or the top two or three areas push up the average?

Actually, looking at this site:

http://crimetool.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/bocsar/

Bankstown has one of the lowest robbery rates in Sydney. It was also amongst the lowest for malicious damage and drugs. Bankstown was roughly in the middle range in Sydney for most other crimes.

Why do they have a middle eastern crime squad then????

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Reply #80 - May 24^th, 2014 at 7:05pm

freediver wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 6:08pm:

Muslims playing with statistics to hide Bankstown's obvious problem? No surprise there. If you don't acknowledge the problem, there is no need to solve it.

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The criminals ~ yes ~ "Deport them" the general Muslim community here would say.

Can you quote one?

Sounds like Nazi talk. I don't know of any Nazi Muslims.

How about we deport Catholic criminals? Is that fair too? Or are you against equality?

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Reply #81 - May 24^th, 2014 at 7:07pm

True Colours wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 7:05pm:

freediver wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 6:08pm:

Muslims playing with statistics to hide Bankstown's obvious problem? No surprise there. If you don't acknowledge the problem, there is no need to solve it.

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The criminals ~ yes ~ "Deport them" the general Muslim community here would say.

Can you quote one?

Sounds like Nazi talk. I don't know of any Nazi Muslims.

How about we deport Catholic criminals? Is that fair too? Or are you against equality?

There were nazi muslims actually. Look it up. The grand mufti of Jerusalem met the fuhrer actually. There's pictures of the meeting.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #82 - May 24^th, 2014 at 7:29pm Soren wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 5:00pm: And Muslims are significantly overrepresented in the prison population of every non-Muslim country where there are Muslims, including Australia. Moses said this too but chickened out of actually finding evidence. Is there any?
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #83 - May 24^th, 2014 at 7:30pm Its not correct, Muslims are probably under represented if anything.
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Reply #84 - May 24^th, 2014 at 7:57pm

Stratos wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 7:29pm:

Soren wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 5:00pm:

And Muslims are significantly overrepresented in the prison population of every non-Muslim country where there are Muslims, including Australia.

Moses said this too but chickened out of actually finding evidence. Is there any?

As you seem unable to find any links to muslim crime stats would you like me to oblige, I offer my service free to the afflicted and mentally challenged, such as your good self.

Please respond, if you are able.

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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1893 Brisbane Gender:	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #85 - May 24^th, 2014 at 7:59pm ian wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 7:30pm: Its not correct, Muslims are probably under represented if anything. Any proof of that Ian?
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Reply #86 - May 24^th, 2014 at 8:05pm

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.......The states with the most disproportionate amount of Muslims in jail are Maharashtra, Gujarat and Kerala.

In Maharashtra, Muslims account for 10.6% of the general population, yet they comprise 32.4% of the prison population. For those incarcerated on terms of less than a year, the figure rises – 42% of prisoners on short-term sentences in the state are Muslim.

In Gujarat, where Muslims account for 9.06% of the populace, they account for 25% of all prison inmates.

Assam has the second-highest number of Muslims in its population (Jammu & Kashmir state has the highest), at 30.9% of the general populace. Yet in this state, there are fewer Muslims in jail – 28.1%.

Karnataka state has a general population comprising 12.23% Muslims, yet its jail population is 17.5% Muslim.
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http://themmindset.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/why-so-many-muslims-in-prisons/

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Reply #87 - May 24^th, 2014 at 8:14pm

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.......The states with the most disproportionate amount of Muslims in jail are Maharashtra, Gujarat and Kerala.

In Maharashtra, Muslims account for 10.6% of the general population, yet they comprise 32.4% of the prison population. For those incarcerated on terms of less than a year, the figure rises – 42% of prisoners on short-term sentences in the state are Muslim.

In Gujarat, where Muslims account for 9.06% of the populace, they account for 25% of all prison inmates.

Assam has the second-highest number of Muslims in its population (Jammu & Kashmir state has the highest), at 30.9% of the general populace. Yet in this state, there are fewer Muslims in jail – 28.1%.

Karnataka state has a general population comprising 12.23% Muslims, yet its jail population is 17.5% Muslim.
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http://themmindset.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/why-so-many-muslims-in-prisons/

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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #88 - May 24^th, 2014 at 8:41pm

freediver wrote on May 24^th, 2014 at 6:08pm:

Muslims playing with statistics to hide Bankstown's obvious problem? No surprise there. If you don't acknowledge the problem, there is no need to solve it.

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The criminals ~ yes ~ "Deport them" the general Muslim community here would say.

Can you quote one?

No I can't.

Are you suggesting the bulk of the Muslim community welcomes the stigma and bad reputation that comes with their young criminals making the nightly news here in Sydney?

I prefer to believe they would gladly be rid of them.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 52006 At my desk.	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #89 - May 24^th, 2014 at 9:00pm I am saying that you will not find a single one that says they support sending criminal Muslims back to the middle east. And that you should speak for yourself.
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