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Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney (Read 23399 times)
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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #105 - May 25th, 2014 at 9:18am
 
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 9:16am:
That's why I included the link.


A link to an article about a UK prison.  how does this show that Muslims in Australia's prisons are over-represented?

Hint: it doesn't
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Reply #106 - May 25th, 2014 at 9:20am
 
It is a link to a thread on this forum about the over-representation of Muslims in our prisons.
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Reply #107 - May 25th, 2014 at 9:25am
 
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 9:20am:
It is a link to a thread on this forum about the over-representation of Muslims in our prisons.


Does that thread have any actual information or just biased statements like this one.

Makes me wonder if you will point to this thread as evidence when the inevitable next Islam crime thread starts.....
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Reply #108 - May 25th, 2014 at 9:31am
 
Yes there is plenty of information.
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Reply #109 - May 25th, 2014 at 9:38am
 
such as?
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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #110 - May 25th, 2014 at 10:00am
 
Stratos wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 8:53am:
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 8:32am:
There is plenty of evidence.



That Muslims are over-represented in Australia's prisons?


haven't seen any, yet this has been claimed by both Soren and Moses with zero evidence.

Speaking of which:

Soren, Moses:  do you have any evidence or did you just make up lies?




Stratos,

It is 'racist' to conduct surveys in a population, to collect data, if the aim of collecting data is to specifically confirm your prejudices.           Tongue

It is even UNLAWFUL in many Western nations, for border guards at airports to openly target people from 'specific' cultural groups, which have been identified as being more likely to be members of a 'tiny minority of extremists'!




It is apparent that any regime [any government and its agencies] which has a pre-conceived social agenda, and are [irrationally!] actively trying to promote 'social harmony' among disparate and fragmented and 'incompatible' cultural groups,      ....will always seek to avoid collecting the form of data that would confirm the 'prejudices' of 'racists' [i.e. of any group, who argue against the irrational and un-natural cultural policies of a governing authority].



INFORMATION;
Google;
muslims over represented in prison, uk


Moslems, over represented in prisons ?

But so are aboriginals, in Australian prisons, you say!

Yes.

It is true.

But maybe the reason [in both cultural groups], is that there is an actual predilection for and towards LAWBREAKING, within those two cultural groups ???



Are poverty, discrimination - 'legitimate' excuses for LAWBREAKING ?

Poverty and/or discrimination are no excuse for LAWBREAKING
, especially in a country like Australia - where injustices that are exposed, are often soon remedied.

And i would argue, that there does not, 'have to be', any ['legitimate'] correlation, between poverty and rates of LAWLESSNESS, in any group of people.

Making the claim that the people of 'your' culture are disproportionately involved in LAWLESSNESS, specifically because, you are living in poerty, is not a logical reason it is not a logical nor a reasonable excuse for [such] LAWLESSNESS, imo.

e.g.
Human history and the history of human society, demonstrates to us that, whether in wealth or in poverty, a group of persons living together can still easily be law-abiding - if that predilection - to being law-abiding - is something which their culture promotes and values.

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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #111 - May 25th, 2014 at 10:02am
 
Stratos wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 9:38am:
such as?


You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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Reply #112 - May 25th, 2014 at 10:07am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 9:03am:
ian wrote on May 24th, 2014 at 10:29pm:
the statistics refer to country of birth, not religion. Try again


Precisely.

During my own research on Google websites I've noticed it's now standard practice for the statisticians to NOT include the second-generation of  immigrants as anything other than 'Australian'.

Immigrant 'Crime families' may have three generations, but those born here are no longer classified as 'ethnics', but 'Australians'.

It's all about manipulating the wording to produce a desired result.




Yes.

It is very apparent that this is being done, Herbert.

It is apparent, that information and data, that would expose their own illogical foolish 'prejudices' [which show the detrimental societal consequence of ISLAMIC immigration] - are purposely not being collected by governments and their agencies.





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It is apparent that any regime [any government and its agencies] which has a pre-conceived social agenda, and are [irrationally!] actively trying to promote 'social harmony' among disparate and fragmented and 'incompatible' cultural groups,      ....will always seek to avoid collecting the form of data that would confirm the 'prejudices' of 'racists' [i.e. of any group, who argue against the irrational and un-natural cultural policies of a governing authority].


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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #113 - May 25th, 2014 at 10:13am
 
Sparky wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 9:15am:
Stratos wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 8:53am:
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 8:32am:
There is plenty of evidence.


That Muslims are over-represented in Australia's prisons?

haven't seen any, yet this has been claimed by both Soren and Moses with zero evidence.

Speaking of which:

Soren, Moses:  do you have any evidence or did you just make up lies?




Why do middle eastern people have their own crime squad then?





Sparky,

This is because the police, ARE RACISTS!!!!              Tongue

The police, specifically target cultural communities, because Australians ARE RACISTS!!!!                Tongue



It is as plain to see, as the nose on your face!!!!         Cheesy

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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #114 - May 25th, 2014 at 10:57am
 
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:02am:
Stratos wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 9:38am:
such as?


You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.


What water?  I read through the whole thread and there was zero information I could find that would lead to a conclusion that Muslims are over-represented in Australia's prisons.

Now is there or isn't there "plenty" of information, or are you Moses and Soren all lying about this?
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Reply #115 - May 25th, 2014 at 11:15am
 
Yes.

Perhaps you should respond in the thread in question if you think the evidence presented is inadequate. I am not going to copy and paste it here so we can have the same debate again.
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Reply #116 - May 25th, 2014 at 11:20am
 
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 11:15am:
Perhaps you should respond in the thread in question if you think the evidence presented is inadequate.


There is no evidence.  Also beggin the question why you think linking to it would be relevant evidence to support the suggestion that Muslims are over-represented in Australia's prisons.

Or is this another piece of evidence you just assumed, like you have been known to do previously?

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Reply #117 - May 25th, 2014 at 11:29am
 
I know people who work in the prison chaplaicy program in Victoria, and they inform me that the Muslim prison population is in proportion to the demographic that makes up the bulk of the prison population - males ages 18-40.
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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #118 - May 25th, 2014 at 11:59am
 
Yadda wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 10:13am:
Sparky wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 9:15am:
Stratos wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 8:53am:
freediver wrote on May 25th, 2014 at 8:32am:
There is plenty of evidence.


That Muslims are over-represented in Australia's prisons?

haven't seen any, yet this has been claimed by both Soren and Moses with zero evidence.

Speaking of which:

Soren, Moses:  do you have any evidence or did you just make up lies?




Why do middle eastern people have their own crime squad then?





Sparky,

This is because the police, ARE RACISTS!!!!              Tongue

The police, specifically target cultural communities, because Australians ARE RACISTS!!!!                Tongue



It is as plain to see, as the nose on your face!!!!         Cheesy

I've heard that before. It's the ultimate in bias when a person (true colours) won't admit to facts.
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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #119 - May 25th, 2014 at 12:13pm
 
Meanwhile the facts are:

1556.1 ASSAULTS in Bankstown per year, or 29.925 per week

10.07 HOMICIDES in Bankstown per year, or 1 murder every 5.1 weeks

226.1 SEXUAL OFFENCES in Bankstown per year, or 4.3 every week

123.5 ROBBERIES in Bankstown per year, or 2.3 every week

6864.7 THEFT cases in Bankstown per year, or 132 every week

1444  MALICIOUS PROPERTY DAMAGE cases in Bankstown per year, or 27.7 every week

241.3 PROHIBITED USE OF WEAPONS (Guns etc.) cases in Bankstown per year, or 4.6 every week

Of the 40 councils in the Sydney area Bankstown is one of the most undesirable places to live, with over 30 of the 40 Local Govt.s being safer, people friendly and a better place to reside and raise children.

Bankstown is the dregs of it's own demographic area
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