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Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
May 21^st, 2014 at 2:37pm

http://ramio1983.wordpress.com/2014/04/28/living-in-sydneys-crime-capital/

Data sourced from the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research - available at:
http://crimetool.bocsar.nsw.gov.au/bocsar/

Worth putting some facts to the hysteria that we hear over and over again about Lebanese/muslim crime in Sydney. Figures cited for the Bankstown local government area - which incorporates the main Lebanese muslim communities in Sydney.

On all the main measures, Bankstown is very much around the middle and even below the rest of Sydney. On some crimes it is even lower than the NSW average - including robbery and sexual assault. Only for homicide did Bankstown break into the top 5 (ranked number 4).

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #1 - May 21^st, 2014 at 3:33pm

Ten years on.

NEWS AU- SALLY does not mince her words. Ten years after a group of 14 young males gang raped her in a horrific six-hour ordeal she still wishes they were dead.

Sally, now 29, was one of at least six victims who fell prey to the evil gang of Bilal Skaf, which terrorised western Sydney in August of the year 2000, gang raping young women in what turned out to be racist attacks.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2010/12/01/australia-muslim-gang-rape-victims-10-y...

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Reply #2 - May 21^st, 2014 at 3:39pm

Adamant wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 3:33pm:

Ten years on.

NEWS AU- SALLY does not mince her words. Ten years after a group of 14 young males gang raped her in a horrific six-hour ordeal she still wishes they were dead.

Sally, now 29, was one of at least six victims who fell prey to the evil gang of Bilal Skaf, which terrorised western Sydney in August of the year 2000, gang raping young women in what turned out to be racist attacks.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2010/12/01/australia-muslim-gang-rape-victims-10-y...

yes a bunch of fwits racists got what they deserved but they werent islamic attacks.

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Reply #3 - May 21^st, 2014 at 4:15pm

wally1 wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 3:39pm:

yes a bunch of fwits racists got what they deserved but they werent islamic attacks.

Indeed, but before Yadda pulls out the ahadith and quran quotes demonstrating how muslims are obligated to go out and rape and terrorize pretty Australian girls, lets focus on the topic - how prevelant these sorts of attacks really are compared to the wider Sydney and NSW population - ie not prevalent at all.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #4 - May 21^st, 2014 at 5:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 4:15pm:

wally1 wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 3:39pm:

yes a bunch of fwits racists got what they deserved but they werent islamic attacks.

Indeed, but before Yadda pulls out the ahadith and quran quotes demonstrating how muslims are obligated to go out and rape and terrorize pretty Australian girls, lets focus on the topic - how prevelant these sorts of attacks really are compared to the wider Sydney and NSW population - ie not prevalent at all.

I understand your point of view gandalf, im just waiting for the tsunami of posts from yadda, moses, herbert, freediver, sprintcyclist,soren etc to attack the muslim community because of a bunch of uneducated non practicing muslims who happened to do a terrible crime.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #5 - May 21^st, 2014 at 5:27pm Wonder if Herbert will show up to this conversation. Muslim crime in Sydney is a topic very dear to his heart, hope he doesn't miss out
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wally1 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2055 Gender:	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #6 - May 21^st, 2014 at 6:05pm Stratos wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 5:27pm: Wonder if Herbert will show up to this conversation. Muslim crime in Sydney is a topic very dear to his heart, hope he doesn't miss out And muslim crime in his homeland which he keeps reminding us about. Maybe we should change the forum name to ukpolitics.
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Reply #7 - May 21^st, 2014 at 6:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 4:15pm:

wally1 wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 3:39pm:

yes a bunch of fwits racists got what they deserved but they werent islamic attacks.

Indeed, but before Yadda pulls out the ahadith and quran quotes demonstrating how muslims are obligated to go out and rape and terrorize pretty Australian girls, lets focus on the topic - how prevelant these sorts of attacks really are compared to the wider Sydney and NSW population - ie not prevalent at all.

Just got off the phone with yadda, and he is very sorry that he cant reply to this topic as soon as it came up. He actually left his house and is making a contribution to society.

He mentioned to post this on his behalf.

What is ISLAM ?

ISLAM 'is', violent, religious bigotry.

ISLAM exists, so that violent religious bigotry can be spread throughout the world - by moslems.

Religious bigotry, and moslem crimes of religious violence [against those who do not believe as they [moslem] believe], are all MADE LAWFUL, by ISLAM itself !

"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Fighting [against unbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

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Dictionary;
bigot = =
1 a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others.
2 a person who expresses an opinion/view which does not coincide with the opinion/views of Brian_Ross.

n.b.
Bigots, are those people who are,
".....intolerant of the opinions of others."

Is the promulgation, within Australia, of violent religious bigotry, what our governing authorities in Australia should tolerate ?

Because ISLAM does promulgate the idea, that political violence, against those who do not believe as they [moslems] believe, is a 'LAWFUL' act.

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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #8 - May 21^st, 2014 at 6:31pm

Sorry GDID, you opened this thread with proof-positive of your statements, so the ranting Islamophobes won't come pouring out their bile, you should have posted a teaser first, then sprung your proof on them.
   Don't see the point myself, just sit back and wait, they'll leave themselves wide open soon enough.
   It won't make any difference though, they're not interested in reality or reason, they're just happy wallowing in their bigotry, quite sad really.
   There's quite a large Islamic population up in Darwin, old and new, but their style of bigotry rarely appears there, most of the NT are quite used to cultural diversity, despite their reputation as red-necks. The small, and shrinking, genuine red-neck community saves their racism for the Indigenous, they're an easier target, and welcome the battle.
   I must say, your presence and persistence on this forum has been one of the reasons I joined, and am staying, if it wasn't so widely representative of today's Oz it would be far less interesting, so keep on keeping on, as the old line goes. Wink

You'll see me proposing we stop Islamic immigration, but that's not because I'm prejudiced, it's simply because I'm against any immigration, or refugee intake, purely on social, environmental, and economic grounds, and I see Muslims having the most trouble adjusting to our Western ways. Given time enough for the few we already have to so adjust and become accepted enough that the prejudices around them weaken then more would fit in far easier than currently possible. It's as much the fault of the xenophobic Aussie as any immigrant behaviours, and given time and less pressure we do manage to get past that as a rule.

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Adamant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1893 Brisbane Gender:	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #9 - May 21^st, 2014 at 7:19pm wally1 wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 5:15pm: bunch of uneducated Yes apparently 600 million muslims are! wally1 wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 5:15pm: non practicing muslims Oh well, that makes it all better then. Tell the victims that, they might feel relieved.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #10 - May 21^st, 2014 at 7:53pm any comment on the actual crime statistics adamant? Are you surprised that there doesn't seem to be the massive crime hot spot in the Lebanese-muslim areas of Sydney that we keep hearing about?
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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #11 - May 21^st, 2014 at 8:25pm

Do the members of a 'moslem community', have any significance or affect on particular crime rates, within a host country ?

Europe has had much, much more ISLAMIC immigration, than lucky, antipodean, Australia.

So, ....how is it going for ya, Europe ???

Hmmmm ?

Google;
muslims earn sweden the title of "rape capital of the world"

Surely not!! ?

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"......Sweden, like the rest of the West, will have to come to terms with the fact that it can either have female equality or Muslim immigration. It cannot have both."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/1-in-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-...

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney
Reply #12 - May 22^nd, 2014 at 7:52am

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..............Bankstown (northeast) zone has an official jobless rate of 11.6 per cent. By comparison, some suburbs in the neighbouring Sutherland Shire/St George labour force zone enjoy some of the lowest rates in the world, with Sutherland Shire (west) dropping to an official unemployment rate of 2.6 per cent..........

http://www.news.com.au/finance/city-of-haves-and-havent-got-a-job/story-e6frfm1i...

tell the whole story please.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Lebanese/muslim crime rates in Sydney Reply #13 - May 22^nd, 2014 at 8:08am What story is that sprint - that the Lebanese of Bankstown are not the rapists and thugs we thought they were - even with a high unemployment rate?
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Reply #14 - May 22^nd, 2014 at 8:26am

Stratos wrote on May 21^st, 2014 at 5:27pm:

Wonder if Herbert will show up to this conversation. Muslim crime in Sydney is a topic very dear to his heart, hope he doesn't miss out

That's very kind of you to think of me, Stratos, but I can't imagine what I've said in the past that would prompt you to believe I have any interest in this subject.

But seeing as I have inadvertently and quite by accident found myself stumbling into this thread like a goat who's wandered into the backyard of a Muslim family at the end of the month of Ramadan, I feel it would be rude of me to simply retrace my steps without first venturing a few words by way of making a contribution here.

The Christian Assyrians from northern Iraq are currently very much in the news here in Sydney for all the wrong reasons. I've worked with young Assyrian refugees in a factory in Sydney for 9 months doing casual, and we were the best of friends, but I remember they were very keen on gang culture, and beating up their rivals.

The very best news Sydney's Muslim and Middle Eastern Christian communities could possibly hear from the federal government is that new agreements have been worked out that would allow Australia to deport their criminals back to the Old Country.

And please, let's not hear this apologist nonsense that they wouldn't know the language if they were to be sent back to their parent's country of origin.

And bullshit about 'Human Rights' violations.

There isn't a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation Arab in any Western country who isn't perfectly fluent in written and spoken Arabic.

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