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Melbourne Cyclist Doored by Taxi Passenger (Read 10046 times)
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Reply #180 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:54am
 
kat if you did that some people will use the reverse back over them to check if they are OK technique.

I also want to know how I can stay a metre away from a cyclist if I am locked in traffic and they come up behind me while I am parked in traffic.
It would be quite easy for anyone to take a photo of me with a cyclist 2cm away from me.
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Reply #181 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:56am
 
So if you're on a bike, it makes sense to give way to cars, trucks and trains in any emergency,  even if you technically don't have to. With pedestrians though, you can flex your muscle, you're king

Sherri is my new God.

The law should follow the common sense
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Reply #182 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:04am
 
sherri wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 7:39am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 11:17am:
Well - it was not a bike lane and there are multiple factors at work here - which points to a need to change 'laws' in this case.

Opening a door facing a gutter is not a situation in which that door is not opened safely - every person has a reasonable expectation that such a situation is safe.

This is where 'laws' come unstuck - they seek to cover all situations where many arise in which they clearly cannot do so.

Multiple factors:-

the rider failed to keep a safe lookout

failed to ride defensively taking into account the situation

the occupant did not look behind

multiple factors are in play...

I'll try this:-

Last year I was driving on a narrow windy dirt road - and was VERY careful - since I did not know the road - to keep well to the left on corners.  sure enough - a local lad in a red ute (is there any other kind?) came howling around one blind corner on the wrong side of the road - and only because of my careful prior consideration of that possibility and my fast reactions was I able to head into the 'gutter' - 'go bush' to avoid a headon at considerable speed.

It's called situational awareness - and is something that bike riders should be taught before they are licensed..... as they so obviously need to be.  Anticipate - be in front of your aircraft at all times - not playing catch-up - and always assume the other person is dumb
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Agree with grappler here.

Some people have mentioned all sorts of road rules and who is right, who is wrong.

But there is an unwritten road rule we all sort of know and it goes something like this.
Doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong, on the battle scale it usually works out that:
bikes beat pedestrians
cars beat bikes
trucks beat cars
trains beat the lot of them.

So if you're on a bike, it makes sense to give way to cars, trucks and trains in any emergency,  even if you technically don't have to. With pedestrians though, you can flex your muscle, you're king. Smiley


Yes that's right .... but still pedestrians, bicycle riders, motor bike riders, car drivers & truck drivers run the gauntlet doing stupid things at level crossings & train stations......

I know I drive trains for a living

Kat what you are suggesting means that you think all bike riders are all 100%er's ..... there are just as many idiots riding bikes as there are any other vehicle.

But the rest all pay for the privilege.
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Reply #183 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:06am
 
miketrees wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 10:56am:
So if you're on a bike, it makes sense to give way to cars, trucks and trains in any emergency,  even if you technically don't have to. With pedestrians though, you can flex your muscle, you're king

Sherri is my new God.

The law should follow the common sense



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #184 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 12:41pm
 
Nothing new here. The same old Drivers Vs Cyclists rant. Will there ever be a time when everyone calms down and shares the road?
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Reply #185 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 12:57pm
 
knightmoves wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 12:41pm:
Nothing new here. The same old Drivers Vs Cyclists rant. Will there ever be a time when everyone calms down and shares the road?



We could create an equality of a race to the bottom by installing doors on bicycles so they could door car passengers and drivers.... that's the socialist solution as currently purveyed....
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