Politics, discussion, debates,arguments and performance counselling is not bullying or harassment. However people constantly use these forms of communication to harass and bully because put simply they are arseholes with bad communication skills. It is absolutely not an attack on free speech it is attack on bullies and bigots who don't belong in our workplaces.

Anti-bullying laws. 

Who thinks up this stuff?

miketrees wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 7:04pm:



Right.  because everyone knows that the only way to deal with a bully is to dob on them.

It depends what nature of bully they were.

But really, I wouldn't be bullied in the first place. 
Bullies only exist where there are weaklings.  Develop backbone and character and as if by magic, bullies transform into friends.

That's the key.  That's how I've helped literally hundreds of nice people "beat the bullies" over the years. 

Rubin wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 7:57pm:


Being big can help, but it's not essential, nor is it foolproof.

Whoever they are, they're going to have to learn to live in their own skin some time.  Bureacucracy has no place managing inter-personal relations, and it won't be there to hold their hands forever.

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 11:23pm:


So don't set them in play. 

Plenty of bad, but nothing good can come of them.

... wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 11:31pm:


I agree at the end of this discussion - I am canvassing views of others and hoping to derive comment such as yours that show that the imposition of overly general 'laws' that are open to abuse is a dangerous thing.

I refer you back to the 'domestic violence' "laws" that were allegedly set in place to prevent women being beaten to a pulp - these have been blatantly abused and turned into a jihad weapon against men at whim of any accuser over any complaint at all no matter how unfounded in fact - and quite deliberately so.

I will now state, for the record, that this was the intention all along of these "laws' - which you see evidenced clearly today with the ongoing emasculation of men in western society and the ongoing elevation of women there.  This was done in the name of attaining a 'tame' society - one in which 51% (the 51% least capable and least inclined to oppose the very oppression involved and with insufficient experience of the real struggles of the real world to engage in such a contest) are bribed and cosseted and artificially promoted and supported by an endless array of propaganda campaigns - and the other 49% are subjected to a reign of terror over every simple facet of their simply being as they are, in a fashion startlingly reminiscent of the approach to Jews and others under the Nazi** and Russian Communist*** regimes.

Get hold of your real history books, Grasshoppers - it is all there for you to see.

** Under the Nazi regime any crime committed against a Jew by a German was a matter of self-defence, for the simple reason that Jews and Judaism were considered an attack on German culture.

*** the Russian Communists continued the ages-old pogroms or organised assaults on Jews by the instruments of government and perpetuated the ages-old hatred and discrimination against Jews.  Many say the opposite... you judge for yourself.