That’s a question, dear. It’s not evidence.

Given your response, you clearly agree: the Muslim underage marriage "epidemic" in Australia is manufactured tabloid hysteria.

You can’t find more than one example. I hate to tell you this, but Muhammed isn’t a Muslim in Sydney. He hasn’t been alive for more than 1300 years. His example appears to have inspired all of one Sydney case.

As we agreed - case closed.

I know this thread will keep going, and you’ll continue to pop your head in and do your usual never-ever thing, but there is no more evidence, so it will all be hyperbole and abstraction and angels on the head of a pin.

Of course, you’re free to think the Muselman’s a despicable paedophile, but without any evidence, you won’t convince anyone else. All the usual bayers here are sulking, or gone.

I don’t know why - you think they’d be happy that there’s no child marriage problem among Muslims in Australia. You think they’d be celebrating. Case closed - that’s good, right?

Not on the Islam Board. Here, we want blood, and we won’t settle for anything else.

As a Freudian, what do you call this phenomenon? They must have had a name for it at the University of Balogney. It’s more than shadenfreud, which is a mere pleasure in the misery of others. Here, it’s more of a childish, almost austistic obsession -with no reference to reality at all. What do you term this sort of voluntary mass delusion?

Case closed, old dear. If you can find another example, we’ll consider reopening the file.

Until then - bon apetite!

freediver wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 8:11am:


Of course it wouldn't. Why are you trying so hard to prove this?

Surely you're not thinking of becoming a marriage celebrant?

On Muslims in the census, it is popular to identify as Muslim in the Aboriginal community - like Anthony Mundine. There is also a big Aboriginal Muslim community in prisons - a la Malcolm X.

Either way, the "over-representation" of Muslims in underage defacto relationships constitutes about 30 people Australia-wide. Statistically, this is too small a focus group to prove anything.

We only have raw data, not specifics: numbers of Muslims, numbers of child marriages, numbers by region. This information is not cross-matched, so we don't have specifics like underage Muslim relationships in urban versus rural areas, where underage defacto relationships appear to be "over-represented".

But then, with the exception of Aboriginals who identify as Muslim, how many Muslims are living in places like Young - the place with the highest prevelance?

The child marriage epidemic is proposed as an immigrant phenomenon - girls being "shopped" overseas on Facebook. However, the bulk of underage defacto relationships are in rural and regional areas, where immigrants do not tend to live.

As this is described as an immigrant issue, wouldn't country of birth be an important piece of information to report?

Given you're looking for trends in the data, FD, how do you account for this issue being largely a rural phenomenon?

Karnal wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 9:15am:



http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-06/uk-imams-agree-to-perform-underage-marriages/

Of course it wouldn't.

Why not? Are you suggesting a tendency among Muslims to favour choices that are directly against Islam?

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Abu once boasted about the success of prison recruitment. I image Islam is popular among the sex offenders. Of course, this cannot be interpreted as evidence of anything.

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Are you saying it is statistically insignificant?

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Obviously if we had detailed information on unprosecuted crimes it would become prosecuted.

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Doesn't that mean they get sent overseas?

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You have suggested a few - aboriginal communities, boredom. I am not aware of the actual trend.

freediver wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 12:42pm:


Exactomundo. But more accurately, I'm saying you can't map a prevelance of anything using a group of 38 people Australia-wide.

You're not aware of the trend towards rural/regional underage defacto "marriage"? That's strange. You've worked out an exact number of Muslims, but you missed the bit about the southern suburbs of Wollongong, the South Coast and Young.

The southern suburbs of Wollongong, by the way, are an old rust-belt area - a lot of structural unemployment and poverty, ex-BHP. The South Coast and Young have high Aboriginal populations - and, I believe - very low Muslim populations.

Do you only think about the bits with Muslims?

As both the Islamic health service and the state  government acknowledge, this is "far more prevalent and well-known than people think".

The islamic community in Sydney needs to take responsibility here and tackle this disturbing issue head on.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1391854581/0#0

Karnal wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 9:15am:

You keep trying to block the view to any insights.