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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: We will stop the boats! Reply #105 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:44pm ... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:43pm: havent those boats stopped yet? They must have. You don't hear about them anymore. Three cheers for Mr Abbott!!!
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 156601 Gender:	Re: We will stop the boats! Reply #106 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:47pm ... wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:43pm: havent those boats stopped yet? They haven't stopped, but they are stopping.
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Reply #107 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:10am:

Vic wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 6:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 12:20pm:

Vic wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 10:53am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Vic wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 7:55pm:

Sorry tony
1/1/14 and your first boat has been intercepted off bathurst island.

Gee wow, one boat in a matter of weeks. Lets all hit the panic button. No, hang on! That might be a bit hasty. I seem to recall a time when we were getting 2-3 boats a day. Oh yeah, that's right - it was the norm under Labor over the previous 6 years!

So Tony hasn't stopped the boats - as he promised during his election Mantra? No one gives a crap about Labor, they are not in government. The Coalition are, and a key cornerstone of their election commitment was to stop the boats. They have obviously failed. When are you Roids going to start holding this pathetic government to account for lies and failed promises?

Obviously, you're an idiot. An absolute, breathtakingly stupid imbecile. I don't recall a single one of Abbott's speeches in which he gave a deadline for when he would stop the boats by. That's because he never did. He said he would stop the boats and they are stopping. Since becoming PM, he has overseen a dramatic reduction in the number of boat arrivals in a very short period of time - something Labor was simply incapable of. At its worst, Labor was getting more than one boat a day much of the time, whereas now we are lucky if we see more than 2-3 boats in a week. Have the boats completely stopped? No. Are the boats coming at the same frequency or higher than under Labor? No, not even close. Boat arrivals have reduced by more than 70% in the first 2-3 months of Abbott's term. That's another thing - we're only a few months into Abbott's term, so I think that he is entitled to a bit of time to get his policies working, especially given the blocking of legislation that shows Labor just wants him to fail because for him to succeed would be too embarrassing! Given these FACTS, your absurd and incorrect conclusion that Abbott has failed serves only to demonstrate what a colossal moron you are. Grow up. Angry

thanks for the personal abuse - but if you read my post I said that Tony had promised to stop the boats. I merely pointed out that he hasn't. I hope you get a trip to the banned bin

Yes, you did. You also said he has failed. If he'd said he would stop the boats by a given date and they had not stopped, then you'd be correct. However, he gave no deadline for stopping the boats, so one can safely assume he expects to stop them before the end of his first term in office. That means he has a lot more time to actually stop the boats. That means you're wrong - he has not failed in this policy. They have slowed dramatically, however, much to your obvious disgust. You won't be happy until they're arriving at 2-3 boats a day and thousands of people are dying at sea again, as was the case under Labor. It irks you greatly that Abbott is succeeding where Rudd/Gillard failed spectacularly. That's simply disgraceful, even for you.

If he'd said he would stop the boats by a given date and they had not stopped, then you'd be correct. However, he gave no deadline for stopping the boats

I suspect that the budget will be his best opportunity to stop the boats once and for all. He can announce the closure of the many fairy run. He can then claim to his followers that the red neck peninsula is finally safe from the western bogans.

Are you high? I can only assume you meant Manly (not many) Ferry (not fairy). Shocked

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Re: We will stop the boats!
Reply #108 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:34pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:17am:

Sparky wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:54am:

Vic wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:10am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 5:10am:

Vic wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 6:21pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 12:20pm:

Vic wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2014 at 10:53am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 8:58pm:

Vic wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 7:55pm:

Sorry tony
1/1/14 and your first boat has been intercepted off bathurst island.

Gee wow, one boat in a matter of weeks. Lets all hit the panic button. No, hang on! That might be a bit hasty. I seem to recall a time when we were getting 2-3 boats a day. Oh yeah, that's right - it was the norm under Labor over the previous 6 years!

So Tony hasn't stopped the boats - as he promised during his election Mantra? No one gives a crap about Labor, they are not in government. The Coalition are, and a key cornerstone of their election commitment was to stop the boats. They have obviously failed. When are you Roids going to start holding this pathetic government to account for lies and failed promises?

Obviously, you're an idiot. An absolute, breathtakingly stupid imbecile. I don't recall a single one of Abbott's speeches in which he gave a deadline for when he would stop the boats by. That's because he never did. He said he would stop the boats and they are stopping. Since becoming PM, he has overseen a dramatic reduction in the number of boat arrivals in a very short period of time - something Labor was simply incapable of. At its worst, Labor was getting more than one boat a day much of the time, whereas now we are lucky if we see more than 2-3 boats in a week. Have the boats completely stopped? No. Are the boats coming at the same frequency or higher than under Labor? No, not even close. Boat arrivals have reduced by more than 70% in the first 2-3 months of Abbott's term. That's another thing - we're only a few months into Abbott's term, so I think that he is entitled to a bit of time to get his policies working, especially given the blocking of legislation that shows Labor just wants him to fail because for him to succeed would be too embarrassing! Given these FACTS, your absurd and incorrect conclusion that Abbott has failed serves only to demonstrate what a colossal moron you are. Grow up. Angry

thanks for the personal abuse - but if you read my post I said that Tony had promised to stop the boats. I merely pointed out that he hasn't. I hope you get a trip to the banned bin

Yes, you did. You also said he has failed. If he'd said he would stop the boats by a given date and they had not stopped, then you'd be correct. However, he gave no deadline for stopping the boats, so one can safely assume he expects to stop them before the end of his first term in office. That means he has a lot more time to actually stop the boats. That means you're wrong - he has not failed in this policy. They have slowed dramatically, however, much to your obvious disgust. You won't be happy until they're arriving at 2-3 boats a day and thousands of people are dying at sea again, as was the case under Labor. It irks you greatly that Abbott is succeeding where Rudd/Gillard failed spectacularly. That's simply disgraceful, even for you.

No, I just don't like the ability Tony seems to have to fool most of his followers. He hasn't stopped the boats, he and his ministers have backflipped on just about every decision they have made, Bishop and Abbott have made us look fools on the world stage, but you Roids hang in there hoping they will improve - well, sorry, they won't

BTW your immature and thoughtless comments about people dying at sea are disgraceful and a childish attempt at political point scoring. The almost gleeful attitude of some of the right on here using deaths of people to make a cheap point shows their shallowness.

Labor and the Greens did play a massive part in those deaths at sea. They wouldn't of happened if they didn't start people smuggling up again.

How many may have been avoided were the Abbott opposition not making sure that there was no solution for as long as possible ???

Abbott did not stop the Malaysian non-solution, the full bench of the High Court did. Don't blame Abbott for Labor's incompetence on this issue. They had the numbers in both houses to do as they pleased. The Rudd & Gillard governments failed spectacularly in this regard.

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Re: We will stop the boats!
Reply #109 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:57pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:34pm:

Abbott did not stop the Malaysian non-solution, the full bench of the High Court did. Don't blame Abbott for Labor's incompetence on this issue. They had the numbers in both houses to do as they pleased. The Rudd & Gillard governments failed spectacularly in this regard

you really are delluded aren't you?

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Reply #110 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 9:26pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:34pm:

Abbott did not stop the Malaysian non-solution, the full bench of the High Court did. Don't blame Abbott for Labor's incompetence on this issue. They had the numbers in both houses to do as they pleased. The Rudd & Gillard governments failed spectacularly in this regard.

Abbott originally offered to assist in changing the legislation but then reneged on his commitment.

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Reply #111 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 10:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:39pm:

The conservatives would love that. They hate the brown folk.

If the people in boats were white and Christian though, well ... that's a different story.

Don't care what color they are, a work ethic would be nice though, according to the dept of immigration almost all of them are on the dole. Cheesy

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Reply #112 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 11:17pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 10:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:39pm:

The conservatives would love that. They hate the brown folk.

If the people in boats were white and Christian though, well ... that's a different story.

Don't care what color they are, a work ethic would be nice though, according to the dept of immigration almost all of them are on the dole. Cheesy

How many times do we have to go over that this is a blatant lie?

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Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Reply #113 - Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 11:35pm

The sri Lankans come here to work, no doubt the majority are economic migrants.i would prefer them anytime to the middle easterners with zero work ethic.We all know the arabs come here to breed kids and go on the dole. We know their women don't work because they arent allowed to. Ever get behind one of these arab people at an atm on dole payment day? Wait at least 5 minutes while they check any number of accounts to make sure their payments are in.

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Reply #114 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 5:32am

ian wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 11:35pm:

The sri Lankans come here to work,

no doubt

the majority are economic migrants.i would prefer them anytime to the middle easterners with zero work ethic.

We all know

the arabs come here to breed kids and go on the dole.

We know

their women don't work because they arent allowed to. Ever get behind one of these arab people at an atm on dole payment day? Wait at least 5 minutes while they check any number of accounts to make sure their payments are in.

We seem to know a lot and have little doubt.

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Reply #115 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 5:49am

ian wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 11:35pm:

The sri Lankans come here to work, no doubt the majority are economic migrants.i would prefer them anytime to the middle easterners with zero work ethic.We all know the arabs come here to breed kids and go on the dole. We know their women don't work because they arent allowed to. Ever get behind one of these arab people at an atm on dole payment day? Wait at least 5 minutes while they check any number of accounts to make sure their payments are in.

You seem to know a lot about strangers at the ATM.

How would you know when dole payment day is? mmmmmmmmm????

Are you a government spy?

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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #116 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 7:00am

i think the thing that the average suburbanite (ie the 12 million average australians who determine election results) finds peculiar about this issue is the following.

we have many many do-gooders who seem to be sprouting all these messages of concern and weeping tears about "drownings at sea' and 'human suffering'. that in itself would probably be acceptable if it werent for the following....

your average suburbanite sees single mums with no support from the community struggling to get their kids educated and off to school
your average suburbanite sees divorced dads with no money doing hard labour and trying to care for kids on weekends with no community support.
your average suburbanite sees elderly people with disease struggling to do their activities of daily living with no community support or encouragement.
your average suburbanite sees kids with anxiety disorders, kids living in abusive homes, lonely people, people with addictions, people who are close to breakdown, people who cant pay their mortgages.

they see ALL THIS SUFFERING which is very real to them and pervades their world and then they see the absolute MONUMENTAL ammount of outpouring of compassion (in words anyway Wink

) from the politicians and the journalists and the army of hand wringers, and they say

wheres my share of your compassion.??

until this situation is rectified and some balance restored, assylum seekers will continue to get little sympathy out in voter heartland, and rightly so, they are certainly getting the lions share from the "compassion talkfest wanker brigade"

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Reply #117 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 7:35am

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:57pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:34pm:

Abbott did not stop the Malaysian non-solution, the full bench of the High Court did. Don't blame Abbott for Labor's incompetence on this issue. They had the numbers in both houses to do as they pleased. The Rudd & Gillard governments failed spectacularly in this regard

you really are delluded aren't you?

No, but you clearly are and have been for a long time. There's no hope for you - just give up.

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Reply #118 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:02am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 4^th, 2014 at 7:35am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:57pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 8:34pm:

Abbott did not stop the Malaysian non-solution, the full bench of the High Court did. Don't blame Abbott for Labor's incompetence on this issue. They had the numbers in both houses to do as they pleased. The Rudd & Gillard governments failed spectacularly in this regard

you really are delluded aren't you?

No, but you clearly are and have been for a long time. There's no hope for you - just give up.

thanks for proving my point. Cheesy

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Reply #119 - Jan 4^th, 2014 at 8:35am

Stratos wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 11:17pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 10:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2014 at 6:39pm:

The conservatives would love that. They hate the brown folk.

If the people in boats were white and Christian though, well ... that's a different story.

Don't care what color they are, a work ethic would be nice though, according to the dept of immigration almost all of them are on the dole. Cheesy

How many times do we have to go over that this is a blatant lie?

Probably until someone provides statistics that proves the dept. of immigration is wrong and they correct their survey Wink

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