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Reply #405 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:19pm

Grendel wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 1:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 12:13am:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

Here you go Soren...

http://www.elitetechsolutions.com.au/Violin/Violin2.jpg

It's true though, isn't it - Islam DOES want to dominate the world.
Not share, tolerate, coexist - but dominate. That's what it's all about.

So does Christianity and its numerous denominations, Soren. All proselytising religions do. Roll Eyes

Well that's just bullshit... I'm a Christian, I don't want to, my religion doesn't want to.
too much time on the Wacky To-baccy there bwian.

Yes, just because you don't do it, doesn't mean that many other Christians don't do it, Beowulf.

Nor does it mean it hasn't happened throughout most of the history of that religion.

Remember the Spanish in the Americas and what they did to the "American Indians"? Roll Eyes

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Reply #406 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:19pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 1:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 12:13am:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

Here you go Soren...

http://www.elitetechsolutions.com.au/Violin/Violin2.jpg

It's true though, isn't it - Islam DOES want to dominate the world.
Not share, tolerate, coexist - but dominate. That's what it's all about.

So does Christianity and its numerous denominations, Soren. All proselytising religions do. Roll Eyes

Well that's just bullshit... I'm a Christian, I don't want to, my religion doesn't want to.
too much time on the Wacky To-baccy there bwian.

Yes, just because you don't do it, doesn't mean that many other Christians don't do it, Beowulf.

Nor does it mean it hasn't happened throughout most of the history of that religion.

Remember the Spanish in the Americas and what they did to the "American Indians"? Roll Eyes

Throughout most of history most people, especially Western Christians, have changed. Islam is conspicuous for it refusal to even allow the contemplation of changing. It is unrevisable.

SO the Spanish example is silly.

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Stratos Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4725	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #407 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:44pm Soren wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Throughout most of history most people, especially Western Christians, have changed. Tell that to a gay Ugandan
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #408 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:47pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 2:19pm:

Grendel wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 1:26pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2013 at 12:13am:

Soren wrote on Nov 27^th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 26^th, 2013 at 10:00am:

Here you go Soren...

http://www.elitetechsolutions.com.au/Violin/Violin2.jpg

It's true though, isn't it - Islam DOES want to dominate the world.
Not share, tolerate, coexist - but dominate. That's what it's all about.

So does Christianity and its numerous denominations, Soren. All proselytising religions do. Roll Eyes

Well that's just bullshit... I'm a Christian, I don't want to, my religion doesn't want to.
too much time on the Wacky To-baccy there bwian.

Yes, just because you don't do it, doesn't mean that many other Christians don't do it, Beowulf.

Nor does it mean it hasn't happened throughout most of the history of that religion.

Remember the Spanish in the Americas and what they did to the "American Indians"? Roll Eyes

oh poor widdle bwian.... sore loser bwian?
Don't worry I'm not the gloating type.
People can see that one for themselves. Grin

please bwian tell us all what Christian nation is leading a world crusade to convert the rest of us to christianity? Cheesy

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #409 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 9:23pm Stratos wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:44pm: Soren wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 3:29pm: Throughout most of history most people, especially Western Christians, have changed. Tell that to a gay Ugandan Uganda is not Western, it's African. Africans are primitive, whether they are Muslims or Christians or Americans.
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #410 - Nov 30^th, 2013 at 9:31pm

Soren wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

Africans are primitive

And you wonder why people call you a racist. You aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

Soren wrote on Nov 30^th, 2013 at 9:23pm:

Uganda is not Western, it's African. Africans are primitive, whether they are Muslims or Christians or Americans.

Jeepers creepers you are thick tonight Soren.

Africans are primitive, even if they are Americans. Quote of the day

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Brian Ross Gold Member Online Representative of me Posts: 44309	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #412 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 12:57pm Yep, you get your opinions from youtube. That explains an awful lot about you, Soren.
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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #413 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 1:16pm Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 12:57pm: Yep, you get your opinions from youtube. That explains an awful lot about you, Soren. You pull yours outa your Ass bwian... not a particularly animal friendly thing to do.
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Reply #414 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:27pm

Flaming again, Beowulf? Perhaps you should reacquaint yourself with the rules?

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You have read the rules, Beowulf? Roll Eyes

Isn't it about time you started obeying them? Or do you consider yourself above them? Roll Eyes

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Reply #415 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:55pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Flaming again, Beowulf? Perhaps you should reacquaint yourself with the rules?

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Personal criticism

Do not post personal criticism of other members.
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ad hominem
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Merely insulting someone is not technically an ad hominem unless it is done in a way that discredits their argument – however, it is still inappropriate.

You have read the rules, Beowulf? Roll Eyes

Isn't it about time you started obeying them? Or do you consider yourself above them? Roll Eyes

No bwian just replying in kind....

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Yep, you get your opinions from youtube. That explains an awful lot about you, Soren. Roll Eyes

or are you unaware of what you continually do to others? You reap what you sow bwian.

You ridiculed Soren and his ideas... I noted the text and the roll eyes bwian... I merely made a humorous comment about where you get your ideas from... in return.
wassup, no sense of humour?

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #416 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 5:21pm

Grendel wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:55pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 3:27pm:

Flaming again, Beowulf? Perhaps you should reacquaint yourself with the rules?

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Personal criticism

Do not post personal criticism of other members.
[...]
ad hominem
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Merely insulting someone is not technically an ad hominem unless it is done in a way that discredits their argument – however, it is still inappropriate.

You have read the rules, Beowulf? Roll Eyes

Isn't it about time you started obeying them? Or do you consider yourself above them? Roll Eyes

No bwian just replying in kind....

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Yep, you get your opinions from youtube. That explains an awful lot about you, Soren. Roll Eyes

or are you unaware of what you continually do to others? You reap what you sow bwian.

You ridiculed Soren and his ideas... I noted the text and the roll eyes bwian... I merely made a humorous comment about where you get your ideas from... in return.
wassup, no sense of humour?

Beowulf, Soren does it seems get his opinion from Youtube. Do you think that is a good source on which to base one's opinion? Honestly? Roll Eyes

I could imagine what would happen if I was to try and use a youtube video as a substitute for debate, Beowulf. You'd be all over me like a rash, shouting your insults and ad hominem. Yet you let Soren alone. Now, that is contradictory, could it be that you agree with him? Roll Eyes

I try not engage in flaming, nor ad hominem or open insults, unlike you, Beowulf. You have been claiming you crave debate but all you do is post flames, ad hominem, open insults or silly pictures or cartoons. How about you actively engage in some debate? It'd make quite a change. Roll Eyes

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Reply #417 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 7:33pm

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 5:21pm:

Yep, you get your opinions from youtube. That explains an awful lot about you, Soren. Roll Eyes

No Brain. I get my ideas from impeccably researched sources.
I presented the youtube version for your benefit.

There is a massive problem of astonishing underachievement among black Americans because of the gangster culture, the breakdown of the black family and the total lack cred for education among black boys (especially boys, although girls are travelling better only when compared to the boys, not if compared to whites or the Chinese in America).

An you can safely look at the educational attainments and family compositions of Aboriginese in Australia and will find something quite similar if not quite so bad as in America.

If you look in England, you find the same thing - African and West Indian boys are at the very bottom of the educational ladder. They do not have an ethos for education, nor the stable family structure.

You can throw any amount of money at them, it will make very, very little difference, if any. The problem of black disadvantage is not about 'resources' but about the cultural opposition of blacks to the ways of white society: rigorous schooling, conscientious work, stable family, personal responsibility, social solidarity.

Not coincidentally, every progressive endeavour is aimed at breaking down these very characteristics of western society.

I invite you to provide a single piece of evidence to the contrary.

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Reply #418 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 7:55pm

Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 7:33pm:

No Brain. I get my ideas from impeccably researched sources.

lol

Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 7:33pm:

Not coincidentally, every progressive endeavour is aimed at breaking down these very characteristics of western society.
I invite you to provide a single piece of evidence to the contrary.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/society-and-culture/scripted-lessons-start-a-classroom-revival-20100528-wlba.html

Schooling in Arukun, have a read, it's really inspiring. All it took was someone to take the time effort and money to implement good teaching practices and get involved in the community? who would've thought?

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Pete Waldo wrote on Jan 15^th, 2014 at 11:24pm:

Thus killing those Canaanite babies while they were still innocent, was a particularly merciful act

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #419 - Dec 1^st, 2013 at 8:00pm

Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 7:33pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Dec 1^st, 2013 at 5:21pm:

Yep, you get your opinions from youtube. That explains an awful lot about you, Soren. Roll Eyes

No Brain. I get my ideas from impeccably researched sources.
I presented the youtube version for your benefit.

There is a massive problem of astonishing underachievement among black Americans because of the gangster culture, the breakdown of the black family and the total lack cred for education among black boys (especially boys, although girls are travelling better only when compared to the boys, not if compared to whites or the Chinese in America).

An you can safely look at the educational attainments and family compositions of Aboriginese in Australia and will find something quite similar if not quite so bad as in America.

If you look in England, you find the same thing - African and West Indian boys are at the very bottom of the educational ladder. They do not have an ethos for education, nor the stable family structure.

You can throw any amount of money at them, it will make very, very little difference, if any. The problem of black disadvantage is not about 'resources' but about the cultural opposition of blacks to the ways of white society: rigorous schooling, conscientious work, stable family, personal responsibility, social solidarity.

Not coincidentally, every progressive endeavour is aimed at breaking down these very characteristics of western society.

I invite you to provide a single piece of evidence to the contrary.

Well said, Soren.

Not a word wrong.

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