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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2460 - Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:42am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:20am:

Are you actually still insisting that a little lady wearing a "letterbox outfit" is no less sinister than someone in a KKK outfit?

gandalf,

Yes, ....and more so to those who are ISLAM-O-PHOBES.

ISLAM-O-PHOBE = = someone who has an irrational fear of moslems/ISLAM

gandalf,

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Why are some moslem women [who live in the West]
seeking to oppress and to persecute such vulnerable people,
by suddenly appearing in front of them in the street, wearing such fear inducing attire ?

I mean, we ISLAM-O-PHOBES can be found everywhere today!

I mean, it ought to be against the law!!!

   [i.e. the wearing of the "letterbox outfit"]

gandalf,

If a little lady is wearing a "letterbox outfit",    .....without close and intrusive examination of the person in the "letterbox outfit", how i know that it was 'a little lady' ?

And yes,          there have been lots, and lots of violent crimes that have been committed by persons while they were wearing a "letterbox outfit".

IMAGE.....

This, is a very, very, intimidating sight, to some people. !!!!

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2461 - Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:53am Yes Yadda, and definitely no different and just as intimidating as this... right?
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22347 A cat with a view	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2462 - Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:57am Q. Where is Marla ? I expect that after my last post here, Marla will be along shortly, to accuse me of being a racist. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1524526340/33#33 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1524526340/30#30 http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1524526340/5#5
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22347 A cat with a view	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2463 - Apr 27^th, 2018 at 11:01am We ISLAM-O-PHOBES can be found everywhere today! IMAGE..... What are those 'little ladies' concealing in those handbags ? That is what i want to know !!!! ISLAM-O-PHOBE = = someone who has an irrational fear of moslems/ISLAM
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22347 A cat with a view	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2464 - Apr 27^th, 2018 at 11:11am IMAGE..... Seeing a sight like this, is very intimidating, to some people. !!!! Especially to we ISLAM-O-PHOBES ! 'Run, hide, tell.'
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2465 - Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:54pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24^th, 2018 at 6:35pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 24^th, 2018 at 2:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24^th, 2018 at 1:01pm:

Are you being deliberately insulting to KKK members when you refuse to use their preferred term for their outfit?

"KKK outfit/hood" is not deliberately insulting. "Letterbox outfit" is. Obviously.

Why is one insulting and not the other?

Yes FD literally just asked that.

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It is obvious that the KKK outfit is less popular than the letterbox outfit. But what point are you trying to make with this? Or is this the non-point you were talking about?

That the distinctions I referred to exist. Obviously.

Are you actually still insisting that a little lady wearing a "letterbox outfit" is no less sinister than someone in a KKK outfit?

How can you tell it's a lady?

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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2466 - Apr 28^th, 2018 at 1:33am

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:20am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24^th, 2018 at 6:35pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 24^th, 2018 at 2:18pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24^th, 2018 at 1:01pm:

Are you being deliberately insulting to KKK members when you refuse to use their preferred term for their outfit?

"KKK outfit/hood" is not deliberately insulting. "Letterbox outfit" is. Obviously.

Why is one insulting and not the other?

Yes FD literally just asked that.

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It is obvious that the KKK outfit is less popular than the letterbox outfit. But what point are you trying to make with this? Or is this the non-point you were talking about?

That the distinctions I referred to exist. Obviously.

Are you actually still insisting that a little lady wearing a "letterbox outfit" is no less sinister than someone in a KKK outfit?

How can you tell it's a lady?

Exactly. Stop being so sexist, G. FD stands up for Muslim ladies' rights, even if you won't.

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2467 - May 1^st, 2018 at 10:09am freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:54pm: How can you tell it's a lady? Assume for arguments sake it is a lady.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2468 - May 1^st, 2018 at 6:26pm polite_gandalf wrote on May 1^st, 2018 at 10:09am: freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:54pm: How can you tell it's a lady? Assume for arguments sake it is a lady. If you cannot actually tell then it makes no difference to how sinister they are.
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2469 - May 1^st, 2018 at 7:39pm

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2018 at 6:26pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 1^st, 2018 at 10:09am:

freediver wrote on Apr 27^th, 2018 at 10:54pm:

How can you tell it's a lady?

Assume for arguments sake it is a lady.

If you cannot actually tell then it makes no difference to how sinister they are.

Can you tell if its a woman wearing a head scarf? Keeping in mind, this is what Frank wants to ban, even as he tries desperately to avoid that and pretend its all about the niqab (letterbox oufit)

And is this still based on the absurd logic that someone is just as likely to go down to the shops in a KKK outfit as they are a niqab - or hijab?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2470 - May 1^st, 2018 at 8:41pm Usually, but not always. And it's rude to ask.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2471 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 2:20pm have you given up attempting to construct a moral equivalency between the Niqab and the KKK outfit FD? I certainly hope so.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 51285 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2472 - May 2^nd, 2018 at 3:15pm You have not convinced me there is a distinction.
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Re: spineless apologetics
Reply #2473 - Jan 1^st, 2019 at 3:13pm

Brian is afraid of his own opinion, but is blaming me for his fear:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 2:21pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 1:47pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 11:37am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 10:15am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 9:31am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:26am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Dec 31^st, 2018 at 9:44pm:

1. The statistics are misleading because the report makes in abundantly and repeatedly clear that Islamic jihadi terrorism is the biggest, most significant and most resource-intensive terrorist threat in Europe (and indeed around the world wherever Muslims are present).

2. Turd is using the numerical count of events that are classified as 'terrorist' related incidents and he tries to mislead about the truth of the above point.

Bwian, you are as thick and deceptive and stupid and way out of your depth as Turd, Arssie and the rest of the 'yeah-but' mail order fools. To F Orf with bells on is a new year resolution you should all make.

And a happy new year to you, Soren.

1. Greg has made no misrepresentation of the statistics that he has presented, as far as I am aware. He has made a simple statement ("most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature") which is factually true. You and other Islamophobes refuse to accept what the EurPol report has claimed for reasons based, I suspect on your Islamophobia.

2. This has not been "misleading" at all. You believe Islam is the greatest Terrorist threat and refuse to accept any information that refutes that point, even if it is from official EuroPol reports. Greg has been factually correct, "most Terrorism in Europe is not Jihadist in nature". Now you and FD and other Islamophobes can either swallow reality or you can keep on your own Jihad against Muslims or in other words, you can look even sillier than you presently do. Roll Eyes

Brian you appear unable to distinguish between misleading and "factually incorrect". Are you having trouble comprehending the question, or are you just afraid of your own opinion? Why do apologists for Islamic terrorism inevitably take on the slipperyness of the Muslims they are defending?

Do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?

Oh, dearie, dearie, me. More questions. When you answer mine, FD, I may answer yours. OK? Now run along, back to the little kiddies' playground... Roll Eyes

So you *might* reveal to us whether you are brave enough to form your own opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?

You won't know until you answer my questions, Freediver, now will you? Roll Eyes

I know you are afraid of your own opinion on the matter.

I fear nothing of the sort, FD. When you answer my questions, I may answer yours. Will you? No, it appears you the one who is afraid of his own opinion... Roll Eyes

Brian do you have an opinion on whether Greg is using misleading statistics do defend Islamic terrorism?

Just how hypocritical can the apologists get?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 12:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 11:40am:

Frank wrote on Jan 1^st, 2019 at 10:48am:

Although the total number of jihadist terrorist attacks decreased from 17 in 2015 to 13 attacks in 2016, of which 6 were linked to the so-called Islamic State (IS), 135 of the 142 victims of terrorist attacks in 2016 were killed in the 13 jihadist attacks.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/2017-eu-terrorism-report-142-failed-...

135 of the 142 dead were killed by jihadists and you cockwombles keep insisting that you are not deliberately misrepresenting the report by parrotting an irrelevant statistics merely to deflect attention from the scale of these murders for Allah.

I am unsure who you're talking to, Soren? I have made no such claims. I have merely defended Greg from what appears, on the surface, to be unwarranted attacks against the EuroPol statistics. Until you address the reality that more non-Jihadist attacks occurred than Jihadist attacks, you're just whistling dixie, Soren. A not unusual situation for you, as we all know but still the truth of what you're doing... Roll Eyes

As the report shows, jihad is by far the most deadly terrorist treat, dwarfing all others put together by an immense margin. That's not islamophobia or whistling dixie, cockwomble, thats reality - the thing you have been unmoored from for far too long.

You're using misleading statistics to hide the truth.

The vast majority of all terrorist attacks in Europe are not carried out by Jihadists.

Why do you continue to defend the people who are carrying out 84% of all attacks?

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