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Reply #2475 - Jan 27^th, 2019 at 8:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27^th, 2019 at 4:25pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 26^th, 2019 at 6:47pm:

So you are disputing the 'wipe off the map' when in Persian it may have been 'disappear or vanish'. And whether it was Ahmadinnerjacket or an ayatollah or a general.
A top Iranian general has said Iran will annihilate Israel, boasted that Iran could easily defeat Saudi Arabia, and threatened to overrun American military bases in the Middle East.

The words have different meanings, Soren. The Israelis lied about what the Iranian President said. People say things for their home audience which are never meant to be heard by foreigners. One only has to read the bullshit that you spout continually against your fellow Australians. Roll Eyes

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Israel wants to defend itself in the face of Muslim aggression - especially Persian. It threatens NOBODY with a first strike while a first trike is all Iran is ever talking about. If the Muslims left Israel alone, there would be peace. Bwian, you don't have to eagerly pretend that you are stupider than you are.

Everybody wants to defend themselves. What makes Israel more right than Iran? Nothing. They are both led by crazy men. QED. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2476 - May 9^th, 2019 at 12:41pm

He is at it again. Apparently centuries of raiding foreign countries to steal women for sex slaves to breed the next generation of Jihadis is "a Muslim affair".

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8^th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

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Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.

It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped. Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising. All sky daddy followers are the same it seems. They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

It was not stopped Brian. It is still happening. For example, apostasy is still a crime in Malaysia. ISIS was recently using the more traditional method of rape evangelism.

How Muslims treat one another in a Muslim country is in reality, a Muslim affair, FD.

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Reply #2477 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 6:13pm

I didn't want to start a new thread just for this. So here are some recent lies:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2019 at 5:55pm:

Looks like Moh was the first to define a minimum age.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 4:10pm:

The Bible supports underage marriage.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

The Quran is really nice in comparison to the Torah. He tells the Muselman not to kill anyone unless they try to kill you.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47464 At my desk.	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2478 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 6:36pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 6:28pm: We need Islam "critics" like yourself and FD to rephrase the Quran and make stuff up. Lucky we have you, eh?
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Reply #2479 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:38pm

At least he added "supposedly" to this one.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:31pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:13pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 6:36pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 6:20pm:

Muzzie Moh supposedly waited until Aisha reached puberty.

What makes you think that?

You haven't forgotten the months you spent tap dancing around this issue with G and another Muselman I remember some time back (and it wasn't Fallah).

What was his name?

We did not discuss your delusions.

So what was his name?

Forgotten already, eh?

Check the Wiki and get back, FD. We'll have an informed, non-delusional chat.

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Reply #2480 - Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:51pm

Greg up to his one and only trick again:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:59am:

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there is a path out of this hell for the right and its probably an easier path.
you simply find something meaningful to do , like building a business or mastering a profession ...

Like terrorism, you mean?

https://www.revealnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/figure1.png

Just to clarify, a large number of these right wing terrorist attacks are things like water bombing abortion clinics or anti establishment graffiting. These are all included in FBI stats as terrorist attacks. Nearly all the Islamic attacks listed resulted in multiple fatalities or death and maiming of innocent people. So what your statistics really show is that people in the West resort to throwing water balloons or drawing graffitti to show their political anger while Muslims set off nail bombs and fly aircraft into buildings.

As Greg likes to highlight with his statistics, Muslims are giving terrorists a bad name.

"According to recent FBI data, white supremacists in the US have committed far more killings than members of groups like Al Qaeda and Daesh."

What are they dying from, FD - paint fumes?

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?

More killings in the US, more killings in Europe, more killings in New Zealand, more killings in Australia, etc.

Do you watch the news, FD?

So everywhere except where they are active?

Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam? What is so special about Islam that you feel the need to sacrifice your dignity for it?

Good to see you finally admitting that they aren't active in the countries I mentioned.

Now we can all concentrate on the real threat to modern society: far-right, white supremacist terrorists.

mothra wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 9:06pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US? Are you chronically confused, or just lying on behalf of Islam?

Have you heard anyone say "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" since 9/11?

So, Islam not the greatest threat to freedom and democracy then. I had hope you'd get there in the end.

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Reply #2481 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:04pm

The other apologists don't want to miss out on an opportunity to lie in defense of Islam:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:56pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:54pm:

Mothra lying:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

By your own admission, Islamic extremism barely presents in Western countries.

Mothra attempting to shift the goal posts, but still lying:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:41pm:

From when you clearly said that Islamic terrorism was barely active in the US.

Mothra using Islam-inspired self delusion as a defense:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:48pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

You mean more killings in the US than groups that are barely active in the US?

So FD, given that this is your position, it is safe to say you must agree that Islam is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy, yes?

I mean, to say otherwise would make you look like a bit of a tit.

Mothra are you trying to delude yourself, or prove my point with irony? I was explaining how the statistics are misleading, and you responded by being mislead.

Is there anyone here who defends Islam without outright lies or misleading statistics?

Would you say, FD, given that you've agreed that Islamic terrorism is barely active in the US, that Islamic terrorism is not the biggest threat to freedom and democracy of our time?

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DonDeeHippy Gold Member Offline Cool Stuff Posts: 2782 Australia Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2482 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:18pm Isnt the white supremist groups they most dangerous in the USA, so it's easy Islam is the biggest threat worldwide (except the USA and other countries that have no Islamic killings). I mean it's not rocket science....
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Reply #2483 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:42pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

Isnt the white supremist groups they most dangerous in the USA, so it's easy Islam is the biggest threat worldwide (except the USA and other countries that have no Islamic killings). I mean it's not rocket science.... Wink

It is rocket science for Moses and other Islamophobes, mate. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2484 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:14pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:42pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

Isnt the white supremist groups they most dangerous in the USA, so it's easy Islam is the biggest threat worldwide (except the USA and other countries that have no Islamic killings). I mean it's not rocket science.... Wink

It is rocket science for Moses and other Islamophobes, mate. Roll Eyes

You need Muslims for Islamic terrorism, don't you Brian?

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Reply #2485 - Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:09pm

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:42pm:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:18pm:

Isnt the white supremist groups they most dangerous in the USA, so it's easy Islam is the biggest threat worldwide (except the USA and other countries that have no Islamic killings). I mean it's not rocket science.... Wink

It is rocket science for Moses and other Islamophobes, mate. Roll Eyes

You need Muslims for Islamic terrorism, don't you Brian?

Answer my questions and I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92377 Gender:	Re: spineless apologetics Reply #2487 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 4:05pm freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 3:12pm: Looks like even Greg's statistics were made up. Is that like 800 Jews killed in a day, FD? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Reply #2488 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:09am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:08pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 10:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:11pm:

forked tongue: Quote:

Care to quote to us where I have "lied"

Gee forky tongue you do nothing but lie when it comes to the islamists, in fact you go out of your way to try and demonstrate that islam and Christianity are very similar.

You can never do this, as the one truth in all of it is:

People who commit atrocities are disobeying the teachings of Christ.

muslims who perpetrate human rights atrocities are directly following the teachings of muhammad.

You don't understand?

People who commit atrocities are disobeying the teachings of Mohammed as well, Moses. Those who disobey Christ suffer the same fate. Roll Eyes

Did Muhammad ever disobey the teachings of Muhammad?

You answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Do you think Muhammad committed an atrocity and disobeyed the teachings of Muhammad when he slaughtered 800 Jews in one day? Or don't you think that was an atrocity?

You answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

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Reply #2489 - Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:33pm

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:09am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 11:08pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 10:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

moses wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:11pm:

forked tongue: Quote:

Care to quote to us where I have "lied"

Gee forky tongue you do nothing but lie when it comes to the islamists, in fact you go out of your way to try and demonstrate that islam and Christianity are very similar.

You can never do this, as the one truth in all of it is:

People who commit atrocities are disobeying the teachings of Christ.

muslims who perpetrate human rights atrocities are directly following the teachings of muhammad.

You don't understand?

People who commit atrocities are disobeying the teachings of Mohammed as well, Moses. Those who disobey Christ suffer the same fate. Roll Eyes

Did Muhammad ever disobey the teachings of Muhammad?

You answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Do you think Muhammad committed an atrocity and disobeyed the teachings of Muhammad when he slaughtered 800 Jews in one day? Or don't you think that was an atrocity?

You answer my questions, I might answer yours, FD. Roll Eyes

Hey FD, is replacing Brains name with 'forked tongue' as the person being quoted allowed? Or is it only select members get banned for it?

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