Worms will eat you and die from formaldehyde poisoning and you wont know anything about it.

SOB

You should ask a 16yr old. They know everything.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 7:10am:




So you believe that when a 'person' dies, he/she is totally destroyed, along with the body ?

And people who have dementia or Alzheimers, their memories are irretrievably lost - and especially after their body dies, right ?






You can believe whatever you want to believe.

I trust God.




Job 19:25
For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26  And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27  Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.


Matthew 3:9
And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

When we die, our fate is death. That's fate enough I reckon.

I suppose it does no harm to believe whatever about where our soul goes etc., however, there's no control over stopping it happening one day, there's control over what (if anything) happens afterwards and there's nobody who can tell anybody else about it.

..except maybe the Christian church who has for centuries demanded that science not ask questions about the universe and our existence, yet they deem themselves worthy enough to tell you where you will go when you die and the rules (their rules) that you must live by in order to get to the chosen place 

Yadda wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 8:33pm:

Yes, the issue of permanent memory loss does seem to send a chill up the spines of 'the faithful'...

Of course, its more easy to believe that the mind survives death when that mind is whole and intact and the dying person remains lucid until the end... Not so with Alzhiemer's / dementia sufferers who, after years of mental deterioration, have nothing left of themselves to persist after death.

Thoughts and memories aren't magical entities wafting around in the ether until we metaphysically summon them into our brains.... It's not hard to grasp the notion (and easily demonstrated) that to destroy the brain (or parts thereof) is to destroy memory / faculty / personality.

Memories are far from a reliable and accurate record of the past (or truth). They are perceptions, the quality of which is contingent upon a myriad of factors... They change over time (become golden) or get discarded altogether... What incontrovertible truth is there to survive death anyway?

Yadda wrote on Jan 15^th, 2013 at 9:12am:





NoN....
Quote:


That the flesh deteriorates and loses its 'facility' to function in this reality, cannot be doubted.

No argument.


But many people believe know, that the flesh is our only means to 'convey' the essence of the 'personality'.

And without the body, without 'our' body, we are nothing.

Correct ?                  




Again, if you want to believe that.

Yadda wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 8:33pm:


I like that air from the Messiah.

Yes. It's interesting that you bring a non volatile memory into play. That is a belief that is not strictly scriptural by the way.

So do you believe that after death, we somehow remember absolutely every last detail that happened to us during life?

It's interesting that you should believe that. In reality, we remember very little of what we see and hear, even if we observe it intently.

So if you believe in a non-volatile non changing memory that is independent of the memory associated with our brain, do you believe that this memory can correspond with our brain memory during life?

The reality is that our memories are very imperfect, even for recent events, and that past memories are constantly being changed and embellished to some extent, regardless of how hard we try.

I'm with NoN, but you are free to believe whatever you want. I'm always interested in how you justify your beliefs.