Watched the Drum today and watched a group of Corporate hireling Maggots and spin doctors all agreeing with each other as to why Australia should be obliged to allow foreign fighters, terrorists and Guerrillas into Australia on compassionate grounds under the refugee conventions and couldn't help wondering - at what point is enough treason, subversion and conspiracy enough.  Should Australia reintroduce the death penalty for treason for these kinds of activities?

Video Here
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-24/the-drum-thursday-24-may/4031752

Kat wrote on May 24^th, 2012 at 10:08pm:

These kinds of crime are the right of the people to decide over in a court of law.,  We should in the current climate be fast tracking treason laws.

I do have a link to the Australian Constitution on my site, loads it from a government website. Reads bit like a text book

Whilst I agree with the general thrust of these sentiments, the term "conspiracy" is too general, and "treason" only applies legally in time of war. Now that we are supposedly engaged in a permanent "war on terror", the legal grounds for such a charge would be endlessly in dispute. What is needed is an intermediate deterrent that is sufficiently persuasive, and I believe that the "rotan" is one of the best.

The rotan is a four-foot length of one-inch diameter bamboo. One end is bound as a handle, and several slits are cut lengthwise from handle to end. The offender is  stripped naked and given a loin-cloth. He is led into a closed yard and strapped face-down on a mesh frame. The strokes are applied by a hooded military officer, and by law only three may be applied at a time, since a fourth could prove fatal.

At the first stroke, the slitted bamboo pinches the skin of the back severely; the pain is so sudden and severe that the offender involuntarily excretes and urinates, hence his garb. If nine strokes are ordered, the offender is taken away after three; some months later, when the initial scars have healed, three more are applied, and the last three later again. The punishment leaves permanent welts on the back as a warning against repeated offending.

Singapore has long used the rotan as a successful deterrent to many offences, including especially crimes of violence, of corruption, and against the state. The recidivism rate is a fraction of that in Australia, as are the number of offences attracting the penalty.

Yeah.

Howard allowed Australian citizens to be Quote:


Remember that guy from adelaide that got held for years by the americans and he wouldn't even try to get him out. Hicks was it? David hicks?

SOB

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 25^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

When you have strong anti Treason Laws it takes away the fertile ground for conspiracy and corruption that allows treason to fester at the top, so those ordinary citizens you are talking about are today's CEO's and corrupt politicians.  With proper laws they would never rise to the top to threaten the security and freedom of the Australian people.  The men on that Drum  debate would never get a job in the media or at the corporate executive level to ply their sedition.

at least its not another thread on thommo 

People using refugee conventions to smuggle terrorists & Guerrilla fighters into Australia to destabilize the country have no place in modern Australia.  We need tough laws to combat corruption and protect the Innocent from organized crime, corruption, treason and conspiracy.