Australian Politics Forum - Should women be allowed to fight on the front line

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #60 - May 5^th, 2012 at 2:31pm

freediver wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 1:48pm:

Islamic law permits women caught in battle to be enslaved. Which means raped. A female slave is pretty much a sex slave.

So it is understandable that Muslims think the idea of female soldiers is ghastly. In Islam, women are meant to be the prize, not the fight.

These are things you have to consider in sending women off to fight in the middle east, or when a Muslim Australian condemns the practice.

Well @ least they arent killed.

The idea of being on the front lines is to kill the other team. Or die. You arent supposed to be captured. Its a risk they all take. If a woman wants to go out and kill ppl and take the risk of being killed herself (or raped) then let her.

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LifeMasque Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 223 Gender:	Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line Reply #61 - May 5^th, 2012 at 2:36pm Hell, she stands a very good chanced of being raped in the Military academy as it is, before even leaving these shores.
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Mnemonic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1530 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line Reply #62 - May 5^th, 2012 at 4:27pm It seems to me to be a form of compensation whereby if a Muslim kills a man who's married, the wife is offered some kind of social security in return for sex .........
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #63 - May 5^th, 2012 at 4:33pm

LifeMasque wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 2:36pm:

Hell, she stands a very good chanced of being raped in the Military academy as it is, before even leaving these shores.

She could always join the Aussie Navy, Army or Air force where she will be guaranteed to be raped or at the very least sexually harassed until she submits to her commanding officers

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #64 - May 5^th, 2012 at 7:17pm

adelcrow wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

She could always join the Aussie Navy, Army or Air force where she will be guaranteed to be raped or at the very least sexually harassed until she submits to her commanding officers

Maybe a better name for the Australian Defence Force is Australian Defence Brothel/Rapehouse or Australian Sex Force.

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #65 - May 6^th, 2012 at 5:19am

... wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 6:32pm:

Read what i said. I said basic traing AND ALL THE EXERCISES NEEDED jesus. I never claimed any "military experience" so your insults are lost on me there because you have no idea if i have or not.

It is a stereotype. SOME women are as strong and even stronger than SOME men. Jesus.

What has it got to do with labour? Either party would do this because its a natural progression in human rights. Everyone should have the chance to die.

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I did read what you wrote, and it is still wrong. because they don't have the capacity to "finish all the exercises needed" what ever the hell that means.

You just don't grasp the fact that a female soldier does not need to be as good as the average male but needs to be as good as the average soldier and that is vastly different. Which is why they will never be good enough for combat roles.

BTW I can tell that you have NEVER even considered serving your country let alone put on a uniform. Grin

Your are right everyone should have the right to serve their country, but no-one should die because of some leftard social experiment designed to make idiots feel good about themselves.

What do your reckon about it bigol?

Always curious to know what someone who actually served thinks about it.

I served in the squadrons with several females, out in the field too, they do their job just like everyone else.

But, to say that can enter combat roles because it is politically correct to do so is just stupid in the extreme.

It is not sexist to say you are not capable due to your biology to do this job, if it is true and to lower standards just so they can 'break the cam net ceiling' is dangerous for everyone involved.

The hawk government did this back in the 80's in lowering the standards so females could pass the same recruit course as the males and all's it did was allow lesser males to get through.

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #66 - May 6^th, 2012 at 6:36am

Mnemonic wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 4:33pm:

She could always join the Aussie Navy, Army or Air force where she will be guaranteed to be raped or at the very least sexually harassed until she submits to her commanding officers

Maybe a better name for the Australian Defence Force is Australian Defence Brothel/Rapehouse or Australian Sex Force.

lol, or where you can't go when you can't get a proper job force. Wait until Tony gets in, we will be growing the Defence Force.

No dole, join the defence force option.

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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line Reply #67 - May 6^th, 2012 at 7:46am Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 6:36am: lol, or where you can't go when you can't get a proper job force. Like being a checkout chick. You have no reason to 'lol', ya loser. You have lived a pointless existance.
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #68 - May 6^th, 2012 at 8:06am

BigOl64 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 7:46am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 6:36am:

lol, or where you can't go when you can't get a proper job force.

Like being a checkout chick.

You have no reason to 'lol', ya loser. Grin

You have lived a pointless existance.

Because I didn't join the army and get raped? lol

Were you the giver or the taker? I'd guess you were the giver, the victims don't usually speak so highly of the place that let them down.

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #69 - May 6^th, 2012 at 8:37am

BigOl64 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 5:19am:

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It is not sexist to say you are not capable due to your biology to do this job,

It may be correct on personality. But what exactly is the physical limit in combat? That's different from the strength and power training at base which is probably unconnected with reality. Even SAS may never have to carry 200kg machine guns 100km in a night up a Himalaya mountain.i

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #70 - May 6^th, 2012 at 9:28am

BigOl64 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 5:19am:

... wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 5^th, 2012 at 8:55am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4^th, 2012 at 6:32pm:

Read what i said. I said basic traing AND ALL THE EXERCISES NEEDED jesus. I never claimed any "military experience" so your insults are lost on me there because you have no idea if i have or not.

It is a stereotype. SOME women are as strong and even stronger than SOME men. Jesus.

What has it got to do with labour? Either party would do this because its a natural progression in human rights. Everyone should have the chance to die.

SOB

I did read what you wrote, and it is still wrong. because they don't have the capacity to "finish all the exercises needed" what ever the hell that means.

You just don't grasp the fact that a female soldier does not need to be as good as the average male but needs to be as good as the average soldier and that is vastly different. Which is why they will never be good enough for combat roles.

BTW I can tell that you have NEVER even considered serving your country let alone put on a uniform. Grin

Your are right everyone should have the right to serve their country, but no-one should die because of some leftard social experiment designed to make idiots feel good about themselves.

What do your reckon about it bigol?

Always curious to know what someone who actually served thinks about it.

I served in the squadrons with several females, out in the field too, they do their job just like everyone else.

But, to say that can enter combat roles because it is politically correct to do so is just stupid in the extreme.

It is not sexist to say you are not capable due to your biology to do this job, if it is true and to lower standards just so they can 'break the cam net ceiling' is dangerous for everyone involved.

The hawk government did this back in the 80's in lowering the standards so females could pass the same recruit course as the males and all's it did was allow lesser males to get through.

Hmmm. you seem to be arguing with yourself here.

First females are fine and do their job like everyone else.

Then you say they arent capable to do the job because of their biology.

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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #71 - May 6^th, 2012 at 10:08am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 9:28am:

Hmmm. you seem to be arguing with yourself here.

First females are fine and do their job like everyone else.

Then you say they arent capable to do the job because of their biology.

SOB

You seem to lack the requisite comprehension skills to tell the difference between a combat role and a support role.

Soldier - combat role, not for females

Not soldier - support role, ok for females

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line Reply #72 - May 6^th, 2012 at 10:41am I agree completely that female soldiers can play excellent role and I have experience this personally.
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Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line
Reply #73 - May 6^th, 2012 at 10:42am

BigOl64 wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 10:08am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 6^th, 2012 at 9:28am:

Hmmm. you seem to be arguing with yourself here.

First females are fine and do their job like everyone else.

Then you say they arent capable to do the job because of their biology.

SOB

You seem to lack the requisite comprehension skills to tell the difference between a combat role and a support role.

Soldier - combat role, not for females

Not soldier - support role, ok for females

Tell me did you fight tooth and nail to stop them getting this far? Be truthful now.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Should women be allowed to fight on the front line Reply #74 - May 6^th, 2012 at 10:54am Israeli females serve on checkpoints but not in forward advance attack roles. They are welcome comrades and I am happy they do serve.
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