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Reply #30 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 3:19pm
 
A funny thing I used to notice when I was a Police Officer.

Members of the Community, who upheld the all the rights of criminals, to their full protection by the law would; when a loved one of theirs was, raped, or assaulted or murdered or robbed; they would undergo the most incredible transmogrification.

They would then become justice and revenge seeking bounty hunters and no punishment could be bad enough, for what was done to their loved ones.

I am not criticizing those citizens in the least.

All I am saying, is that sometimes it takes something to happen to your own, to make you realise what a dirty, dangerous, unforgiving world there is out there.

And between that world and you stands one thing - the thin vigilant blue line of the Police Force.

I recall a number of years ago, the City of New York went broke. The Police who had been unpaid for some time; went on a 3 hour strike.

During that time, the criminals rose like archangels and decimated the City, smashing into homes and businesses, raping women, bashing people. Anarchy took over in the blinking of an eye.

The  city fathers got down on bended knees, to plead for the Police to come back..which they did...and order was restored.

Always have a little think about, "what would it be like if those blue uniformed officers both male and female weren't out there to protect us?"

Seriously...think about it.
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Reply #31 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 3:44pm
 
Hi Red Baron,
As a former policeman would you like to bring back the noose?
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Reply #32 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 3:53pm
 
Hi Bobbythebat!  The noose..no, but keel hauling has a certain attraction for some criminals out there.

Saw that in a pirate movie once and thought...h'mmm that's got to hurt!

Funny thing Bobby...I don't want to let go of the Cassius Clay ..Smokin' Joe Frazier post in the chat zone. I'm getting very clingy about that one. Anything we can do to put a fire under it to keep it going?
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Reply #33 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:11pm
 
falah wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 2:29pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 2:08pm:
How Falah squirms out of the his support for legalised rape by claiming that no means yes:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1335585972




More lies from Freediver? Aren't you embarrassed enough yet to have so many of your lies exposed?

The link you provided does not state what you claim.

Anyone who follows the link will see this.


Do you still insist I am lying Falah? Do you ever feel ashamed about your hypocrisy?

falah wrote on Mar 4th, 2012 at 12:16pm:
Forced sex in marriage is not a punishable offence in Islam.
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Re: Hysteria as cops make innocents the priority
Reply #34 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:32pm
 
red baron wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 3:53pm:
Hi Bobbythebat!  The noose..no, but keel hauling has a certain attraction for some criminals out there.

Saw that in a pirate movie once and thought...h'mmm that's got to hurt!

Funny thing Bobby...I don't want to let go of the Cassius Clay ..Smokin' Joe Frazier post in the chat zone. I'm getting very clingy about that one. Anything we can do to put a fire under it to keep it going?



I think we've just about covered Ali.

As for the noose -
people like Martin Bryant & Julian Knight shouldn't be alive today.

The only thing I can see against my ideas is that by feeding
those two we're proving that we're better than them.
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Reply #35 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:36pm
 
red baron wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 3:19pm:
Members of the Community, who upheld the all the rights of criminals, to their full protection by the law would; when a loved one of theirs was, raped, or assaulted or murdered or robbed; they would undergo the most incredible transmogrification.

They would then become justice and revenge seeking bounty hunters and no punishment could be bad enough, for what was done to their loved ones.


Your not criticising them, you dam well should be. We all have empathy for them but to even for a moment condone vigilant behaviour is both stupid and dangerous, you above other here should know that. It is also why we have a justice system because justice must be neutral and based on fact not suspicion and revenge. Other wise we should get rid of the police and the strong can rule like in New York that day. Soon criminal networks will establish protection zones and we will pay them instead of the government. OH yea there it is again the government.

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Reply #36 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:37pm
 
You are somewhat twisting the argument RB. No one said they didn't want a police force, or even that they were against the police force.

All I said was that the cops shouldn't take the law into their own hands, especially now that they are bound to be caught on camera. We really don't want to see the cops laying into someone once they are convincingly apprehended, it brings back memories of Palm Island and police corruption from the top down.

It puts the entire police force in a bad light, some people might think they're all like that.

The police need to be able to control their baser instincts, especially since they are in charge of deadly weapons.

You and I know that some cops like to put the boot in, and they do, every chance they get. Less of that would be good, and if you say they don't I will never take you seriously again.
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Reply #37 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:41pm
 
Pansi San, think I might have already said, "that cop was for the high jump."

Think before typing grasshopper san.
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Reply #38 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:42pm
 
Quote:
You and I know that some cops like to put the boot in, and they do, every chance they get. Less of that would be good, and if you say they don't I will never take you seriously again.


Are you suggesting the police should not be able to enjoy their work?
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Reply #39 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:44pm
 
Bobbythebat...You will get no argument from me on that one pilgrim!
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Reply #40 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:44pm
 
Pansi,
Quote:
You and I know that some cops like to put the boot in


Some cops torture & beat people up in every police force in the world.
They are however - not all bad - most of the ones I met
were fairly resonable people.
There will always be a few psychos in every force since
1 in 100 people are psychopaths.
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Reply #41 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 4:45pm
 
Quote:
author=383F323F365E0]Only a sick mind would come with such a statment. People like you should not be allowed to live in Australia.

That's an extreme response. Are yo saying Muslims from
Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan should be deported?
[Punishing rape victims under shari’a (Islamic law) is not restricted to Bangladesh.

In 2007, a Saudi court sentenced a young woman who had been gang raped to 90 lashes because at the time she was abducted at knife-point she was in a car with a man not related to her – a violation of Saudi law.

When the woman, who was 19-year-old at the time of the assault, appealed the verdict a higher court increased the sentence to 200 lashes and six months’ imprisonment. Amid an outcry – President Bush joined the criticism – the government first defended the court decision but eventually King Abdullah Monday pardoned her.

Last August a Filipina working as a janitor in Saudi Arabia was raped by a co-worker. When a medical examination found her to be pregnant, she was arrested. The woman has been detained since September, and miscarried her child in December.

With the pregnancy over, an alliance of organizations representing Philippine migrant workers voiced concern last week that she could be sentenced shortly for falling pregnant out of wedlock, with lashing the expected punishment.

Under Pakistan’s shari’a-based hudud ordinances, a rape victim is required to present four male Muslim witnesses of good standing to back her claim, failing which she can herself be charged with adultery.'
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Reply #42 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 6:02pm
 
falah wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 2:29pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2012 at 2:08pm:
How Falah squirms out of the his support for legalised rape by claiming that no means yes:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1335585972


More lies from Freediver? Aren't you embarrassed enough yet to have so many of your lies exposed?

The link you provided does not state what you claim.

Anyone who follows the link will see this.


Falah, do you concede now that Islam does legalise rape as I suggested, and that the other thread demonstrates this, and that it was actually you who was lying, even though you were accusing me repeatedly?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1335585972/7#7
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Re: Hysteria as cops make innocents the priority
Reply #43 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 6:14pm
 
That Falah bloke - is he the same one as in Cinderella - Rocka Falah?


You're the fella, you're the falah that rocks me
Rockefalah, rockefalah
You're the falah, you're the falah that rocks me
Rockefalah, rockefalah
You're my rockefalah, i'm your rockefalah, ooh
ooh oh Wink

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Reply #44 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 7:33pm
 
No no that's Ibn Rocca Falah.
This one is Ali Stone Falah.
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