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Re: Why Coalition is reluctant to release policies...
Reply #15 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:55pm

matty wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Frances wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 4:16pm:

there has been ANOTHER boatload of illegal immigrants intercepted by our Navy due to the incompetence of the ALP government in Canberra.

So intercepting boatloads of asylum seekers is an example of incompetence?

Yes, and it's just another lie/broken promise. We were promised strong border control, HA!

Everything was fine when the Nauru solution was there, but no, Rudd and Gillard were stubborn to admit that a Coalition policy was actually good and effective.

We have strong border control ... boats are stopped, asylum seekers are escorted in ... not ALP's fault if you substitue strong control with a 3 word slogan

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Reply #16 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:58pm

Abbotts policies are based on the popular opinion of the day and nothing else.
He doesnt want to tell anyone the truth about the effects of adopting pre Great Depression style policies or how he is just a paid mouth piece for a handful of multi billionaire miners and pokie barons that consider themselves to be demi gods.

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Reply #17 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:04pm

Coalition Policy:-

A/ To undo everything good Labor has done (and yes, there ARE a few things).

B/ To return us to the Coalition 'trifecta' of the late 70s-early 80s. Double-digit
inflation, double-digit interest rates, double-digit unemployment.

C/ To reintroduce and increase wealthfare to the middle/upper-class.

D/ Tax cuts for those who SHOULD be paying MORE tax.

E/ Slash welfare payments to the genuine needy.

F/ Work-camps for the unemployed...? Wouldn't be surprised.

G/ No infrastructure spending whatsoever.

H/ Slash spending on health and education.

A vote for the Coalition is a vote against Australia's future.

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Re: Why Coalition is reluctant to release policies...
Reply #18 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:11pm

olive wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:29pm:

1. Remember the 2007 Election? Rudd & Swan refused to give any details of their policies...until the policies of Howard were released.

2. Swan is hopeless at coming up with anything that works....

1. The Industrial Relations Policy was the FIRST of many to be released in detail - a good YEAR before the election

2. ...

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 9:31am:

I'll ask AGAIN ...

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 17^th, 2012 at 6:04pm:

Is your assessment based on ( ... one of) the lowest rate of unemployment in the developed world ?

Or Australia being the ONLY O.E.C.D partner NEVER to have gone in to recession - from the onset of the GFC ?

Or, perhaps, the

highly praised - and highly successful - stimulus packages

, designed by the "World's Best Treasurer" ?

( ... and a stimulus debt, among the world's lowest)

You'd care to name a STRONGER economy ?

... any takers ?

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Re: Why Coalition is reluctant to release policies...
Reply #19 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:15pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:55pm:

matty wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:49pm:

Frances wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:44pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 4:16pm:

there has been ANOTHER boatload of illegal immigrants intercepted by our Navy due to the incompetence of the ALP government in Canberra.

So intercepting boatloads of asylum seekers is an example of incompetence?

Yes, and it's just another lie/broken promise. We were promised strong border control, HA!

Everything was fine when the Nauru solution was there, but no, Rudd and Gillard were stubborn to admit that a Coalition policy was actually good and effective.

We have strong border control ... boats are stopped, asylum seekers are escorted in ... not ALP's fault if you substitue strong control with a 3 word slogan

Are you referring, for example, to all of those middle class men from Iran that arrived here last week?

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Reply #20 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:16pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:58pm:

Abbotts policies are based on the popular opinion of the day and nothing else.
He doesnt want to tell anyone the truth about the effects of adopting pre Great Depression style policies or how he is just a paid mouth piece for a handful of multi billionaire miners and pokie barons that consider themselves to be demi gods.

More socialistic propaganda...

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Reply #21 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:18pm

Kat wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:04pm:

Coalition Policy:-

A/ To undo everything good Labor has done (and yes, there ARE a few things).

B/ To return us to the Coalition 'trifecta' of the late 70s-early 80s. Double-digit
inflation, double-digit interest rates, double-digit unemployment.

C/ To reintroduce and increase wealthfare to the middle/upper-class.

D/ Tax cuts for those who SHOULD be paying MORE tax.

E/ Slash welfare payments to the genuine needy.

F/ Work-camps for the unemployed...? Wouldn't be surprised.

G/ No infrastructure spending whatsoever.

H/ Slash spending on health and education.

A vote for the Coalition is a vote against Australia's future.

More socialistic propaganda...

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BILL SHORTEN WILL NEVER BE PM!!!!

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Reply #22 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:20pm

matty wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:16pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 5:58pm:

Abbotts policies are based on the popular opinion of the day and nothing else.
He doesnt want to tell anyone the truth about the effects of adopting pre Great Depression style policies or how he is just a paid mouth piece for a handful of multi billionaire miners and pokie barons that consider themselves to be demi gods.

More socialistic propaganda...

Facts are facts..dont shoot the messenger

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Johnsmith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4716 Gender:	Re: Why Coalition is reluctant to release policies... Reply #23 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:22pm Matty - so everything that doesn't say what your saying is socialist propoganda ? hahaha I see 3 word slogans are your thing too ... no wonder you like abbott... try to come up with a real argument instead of calling everything socialist propoganda .... or don't argue
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Reply #24 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:24pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 4:16pm:

This is a classic example of why the Coalition is reluctant to release policies, especially when they are well before an election - the ALP shamelessly steals them and claims them as their own!

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2012/04/18/Older_worker_bonus_copycat...

Oh, and by the way, there has been ANOTHER boatload of illegal immigrants intercepted by our Navy due to the incompetence of the ALP government in Canberra.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/navy-intercepts-another-asylum-bo...

You are so funny, you can not release what you don't have.

On that point i remember something about politicians superannuation and Latham v Howard, but that is different is it not.

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Reply #25 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:25pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:22pm:

Matty - so everything that doesn't say what your saying is socialist propoganda ? hahaha I see 3 word slogans are your thing too ... no wonder you like abbott... try to come up with a real argument instead of calling everything socialist propoganda .... or don't argue

great one, you are dealing with generation Y, they have the concentration span of an ant. You can not give them a sentence longer than 3 or 4 words and expect them to remember it.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Why Coalition is reluctant to release policies... Reply #26 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:30pm How is the Labor govt responsible for the refugees created by Howards invasion of a third world crap hole? Only an ignorant fool would blame anyone but the idiots who started these unnecessary unwinnable wars that created this flood of asylum seekers.
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Why Coalition is reluctant to release policies... Reply #27 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:37pm adelcrow crow...you look like Abraham Lincoln...Why don't you to go to a theatre and sit in a box...
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Why Coalition is reluctant to release policies... Reply #28 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:38pm red baron wrote on Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:37pm: adelcrow crow...you look like Abraham Lincoln...Why don't you to go to a theatre and sit in a box... There you go again..you have me in stitches with your witty observations
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Reply #29 - Apr 18^th, 2012 at 6:59pm

The multi-party Senate Committee on suicide reported to the Government after nine months of deliberation making many recommendations about mental health and suicide prevention that the Gillard Government has since implemented.....Abbott preempted the report and released his policy intention knowing Labor where going to introduce a mental health policy of their own to try and score cheap political points by claiming it was his idea.....Labor where always going to introduce a mental health policy which is why they commissioned the report.....Abbott is a populist flake and you cretins fall for his bullshit every time...It was Abbott that stole the idea from Labor the problem was by releasing his crap policy first Labor where able to trump him with recommendations from the report!!!

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Lifeline Australia director and former NSW Liberal leader John Brogden said Labor's policy was better than the Coalition's recently announced mental health pledge because it delivered help to his frontline service and would save many lives.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/gillard-announces-labors-mental...

http://www.smc.org.au/2010/07/rapid-roundup-labors-mental-health-and-suicide-str...

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