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Apr 5th, 2012 at 10:40am
 
SCAN survey shows growing support for gay marriage

SOUTH Australians are leading the way in support for gay marriage, a national survey shows.

Presenting the latest Australia SCAN survey results yesterday, social commentator and market researcher David Chalke said the rapid rise in acceptance of gay marriage across Australia had taken him by surprise.

"I did not expect that to leap up," he said.

"I'd been watching support slowly increasing at 1 or 2 (percentage) points a year.

"Now at 41 per cent, it's (almost) equal to the detractors."

In SA, the majority (56 per cent) of those surveyed said homosexual marriage should be encouraged. A further 11 per cent said they were unsure. The remainder (33 per cent) said it was unacceptable.

"You have been the most liberal of states, ever since the time of Dunstan," Mr Chalke said.

"And faith in organised religion has declined over the years. That may well have held back debate in the past."

Mr Chalke, who is celebrating 20 years of measuring cultural change in Australia, said Australian society was now more capable of accommodating different points of view and dealing with "shades of grey".

"One of the things that has become quite apparent ... is that we are over absolutes," he said.

"We are now actually quite comfortable with paradoxes. We can hold two apparently alternative points of view at the same time and not go crazy ... It's a sign of maturity, almost liberation. We're liberated from the naggers, the self-styled experts who tell us `this is the way'."

He said Australians typically described themselves as "genuine and sincere, hardworking, family people" but they recognised different types of family.

"Family isn't just mum, dad and kids. Family is whatever you want it to be," Mr Chalke said.

"The world is changing fundamentally and one of the consequences is that we're less obsessed with children."

Another consequence of a more "grown-up" approach to the world was a desire to be "treated as adults", with less spin and more straight talk from politicians.

"A bit of honesty, humanity, humility and humour can go a long, long way," Mr Chalke said.



http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/growing-support-for-gay-marriage/story-e6frea6u-12...
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Reply #1 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 10:41am
 
Cardinal Pell argues against gay marriage



SYDNEY archbishop George Pell is pleading with the Federal Government not to allow gay marriage, saying the constructs of marriage are the glue that holds society together.


Cardinal Pell says it would be a "grave injustice" if children were "deliberately deprived" of a mother and father.

He made the remarks as part of his submission to a Senate inquiry into amendments to the Marriage Act.

"Marriage is a union that is publicly recognised, honoured and supported because of its unique capacity to generate children and to meet children's deepest needs for the love and attachment of both their father and their mother," Cardinal Pell said in a statement.

His submission was based predominantly on the inability of same-sex couples to biologically produce children.

Marriage had been the union between and man and a woman for thousands of years and was not an appropriate institution for same-sex couples, he said.

According to a recent decision of the European Court of Human Rights, Cardinal Pell said there was no international right to same-sex marriage.

"The right to marry is a fundamental human right," he said.

"However, to respect this right means to accept the objective reality of marriage as a union of a man and a woman that is inherently procreative."

Cardinal Pell said there would be a profound social impact if the constructs of marriage were redefined.

"When we equate same-sex relationships with marriage, it further undermines our understanding of family by wrongly implying that biological connectivity of children with their parents and siblings is not important," he said.

He said allowing gay marriage also jeopardised the right of children, under the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, to understand their biological heritage.

"... It is a grave injustice to deliberately deprive children of the experience of being loved and raised by their natural mother and father and to prevent them from having a developing and ongoing relationship with their biological siblings," he said.


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Reply #2 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 10:44am
 
Corp Whitie, will gay marriage destroy your life?
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Reply #3 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:24am
 
____ wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 10:41am:
Cardinal Pell argues against gay marriage

SYDNEY archbishop George Pell is pleading with the Federal Government not to allow gay marriage, saying the constructs of marriage are the glue that holds society together.




Pell might want to find some better glue.

* In Australia, every third marriage ends in divorce

* About one-third of children today are born outside the traditional marriage

http://www.mydivorce.com.au/divorceadvice/divorce-statistics-australia.htm

"Over the past two decades, marriage rates have declined, while divorce rates have increased."

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/26D94B4C9A4769E6CA25732C00207644?opend...

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Reply #4 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:46am
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:24am:
____ wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 10:41am:
Cardinal Pell argues against gay marriage

SYDNEY archbishop George Pell is pleading with the Federal Government not to allow gay marriage, saying the constructs of marriage are the glue that holds society together.




Pell might want to find some better glue.

* In Australia, every third marriage ends in divorce

* About one-third of children today are born outside the traditional marriage

http://www.mydivorce.com.au/divorceadvice/divorce-statistics-australia.htm

"Over the past two decades, marriage rates have declined, while divorce rates have increased."

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/26D94B4C9A4769E6CA25732C00207644?opend...

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/40/425606-glue_stick_inside_bottle.jpg



Great argument.  You're saying that because one facet of leftist thought has caused great harm to the institution of marriage (and consequently, society as a whole) we should allow another facet to destroy it completely.
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Reply #5 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:53am
 
So when will the ALP put it to the floor?
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Reply #6 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:11pm
 
>>>>>>

The majority of Australians are so sick to death of whinging whining gays that they say yes to SSM just so they will STFU and people and governments can get on with important issues.

>>>>>>

Sounds more like it.. Roll Eyes
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Reply #7 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:18pm
 
... wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Great argument.  You're saying that because one facet of leftist thought has caused great harm to the institution of marriage (and consequently, society as a whole) we should allow another facet to destroy it completely.



Nope.  I'm saying no such thing.
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Reply #8 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:20pm
 
FriYAY wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:11pm:
>>>>>>

The majority of Australians are so sick to death of whinging whining gays that they say yes to SSM just so they will STFU and people and governments can get on with important issues.

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Sounds more like it.. Roll Eyes



Really?  The "majority"?

Any statistics to back this up, or is it just the majoirty of Australians you associate with?



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Reply #9 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:25pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:20pm:
FriYAY wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:11pm:
>>>>>>

The majority of Australians are so sick to death of whinging whining gays that they say yes to SSM just so they will STFU and people and governments can get on with important issues.

>>>>>>

Sounds more like it.. Roll Eyes



Really?  The "majority"?

Any statistics to back this up, or is it just the majoirty of Australians you associate with?





Lighten up FFS Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:28pm
 
Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:18pm:
... wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:46am:
Great argument.  You're saying that because one facet of leftist thought has caused great harm to the institution of marriage (and consequently, society as a whole) we should allow another facet to destroy it completely.



Nope.  I'm saying no such thing.



Oh.  My mistake.

So what was the relevance of showing recent trends regarding marriage and family?
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Reply #11 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:29pm
 
If the ALP brought this in, then it would be yet another trash to democracy. They went to the last election with a promise of no change to the marriage act. Also, homosexual marriage is unnatural, and would dent the holy sanctity of the holy and sacramental union between man, woman and God.
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Reply #12 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:31pm
 
matty wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:29pm:
If the ALP brought this in, then it would be yet another trash to democracy. They went to the last election with a promise of no change to the marriage act. Also, homosexual marriage is unnatural, and would dent the holy sanctity of the holy and sacramental union between man, woman and God.
Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.
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Reply #13 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:35pm
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
matty wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:29pm:
If the ALP brought this in, then it would be yet another trash to democracy. They went to the last election with a promise of no change to the marriage act. Also, homosexual marriage is unnatural, and would dent the holy sanctity of the holy and sacramental union between man, woman and God.
Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.


Marriage does go against nature, but its not for you to say God doesnt exist.  You cant expect people to forget thousands of years of religion, a religion spread all over the world in many variants.  If you want tolerance, you should practice it as well.
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Reply #14 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:36pm
 
Verge wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:35pm:
bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:31pm:
matty wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 12:29pm:
If the ALP brought this in, then it would be yet another trash to democracy. They went to the last election with a promise of no change to the marriage act. Also, homosexual marriage is unnatural, and would dent the holy sanctity of the holy and sacramental union between man, woman and God.
Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.


Marriage does go against nature, but its not for you to say God doesnt exist.  You cant expect people to forget thousands of years of religion, a religion spread all over the world in many variants.  If you want tolerance, you should practice it as well.
Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.
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