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Title: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Greens_Win on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 10:40am

SCAN survey shows growing support for gay marriage

SOUTH Australians are leading the way in support for gay marriage, a national survey shows.

Presenting the latest Australia SCAN survey results yesterday, social commentator and market researcher David Chalke said the rapid rise in acceptance of gay marriage across Australia had taken him by surprise.

"I did not expect that to leap up," he said.

"I'd been watching support slowly increasing at 1 or 2 (percentage) points a year.

"Now at 41 per cent, it's (almost) equal to the detractors."

In SA, the majority (56 per cent) of those surveyed said homosexual marriage should be encouraged. A further 11 per cent said they were unsure. The remainder (33 per cent) said it was unacceptable.

"You have been the most liberal of states, ever since the time of Dunstan," Mr Chalke said.

"And faith in organised religion has declined over the years. That may well have held back debate in the past."

Mr Chalke, who is celebrating 20 years of measuring cultural change in Australia, said Australian society was now more capable of accommodating different points of view and dealing with "shades of grey".

"One of the things that has become quite apparent ... is that we are over absolutes," he said.

"We are now actually quite comfortable with paradoxes. We can hold two apparently alternative points of view at the same time and not go crazy ... It's a sign of maturity, almost liberation. We're liberated from the naggers, the self-styled experts who tell us `this is the way'."

He said Australians typically described themselves as "genuine and sincere, hardworking, family people" but they recognised different types of family.

"Family isn't just mum, dad and kids. Family is whatever you want it to be," Mr Chalke said.

"The world is changing fundamentally and one of the consequences is that we're less obsessed with children."

Another consequence of a more "grown-up" approach to the world was a desire to be "treated as adults", with less spin and more straight talk from politicians.

"A bit of honesty, humanity, humility and humour can go a long, long way," Mr Chalke said.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/growing-support-for-gay-marriage/story-e6frea6u-1226319006348

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Greens_Win on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 10:41am

Cardinal Pell argues against gay marriage

SYDNEY archbishop George Pell is pleading with the Federal Government not to allow gay marriage, saying the constructs of marriage are the glue that holds society together.

Cardinal Pell says it would be a "grave injustice" if children were "deliberately deprived" of a mother and father.

He made the remarks as part of his submission to a Senate inquiry into amendments to the Marriage Act.

"Marriage is a union that is publicly recognised, honoured and supported because of its unique capacity to generate children and to meet children's deepest needs for the love and attachment of both their father and their mother," Cardinal Pell said in a statement.

His submission was based predominantly on the inability of same-sex couples to biologically produce children.

Marriage had been the union between and man and a woman for thousands of years and was not an appropriate institution for same-sex couples, he said.

According to a recent decision of the European Court of Human Rights, Cardinal Pell said there was no international right to same-sex marriage.

"The right to marry is a fundamental human right," he said.

"However, to respect this right means to accept the objective reality of marriage as a union of a man and a woman that is inherently procreative."

Cardinal Pell said there would be a profound social impact if the constructs of marriage were redefined.

"When we equate same-sex relationships with marriage, it further undermines our understanding of family by wrongly implying that biological connectivity of children with their parents and siblings is not important," he said.

He said allowing gay marriage also jeopardised the right of children, under the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, to understand their biological heritage.

"... It is a grave injustice to deliberately deprive children of the experience of being loved and raised by their natural mother and father and to prevent them from having a developing and ongoing relationship with their biological siblings," he said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/cardinal-pell-argues-against-gay-marriage/story-e6frf7jx-1226318493681

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Greens_Win on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 10:44am

Corp Whitie, will gay marriage destroy your life?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:24am

____ wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

Pell might want to find some better glue.

* In Australia, every third marriage ends in divorce

* About one-third of children today are born outside the traditional marriage

http://www.mydivorce.com.au/divorceadvice/divorce-statistics-australia.htm

"Over the past two decades, marriage rates have declined, while divorce rates have increased."

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/0/26D94B4C9A4769E6CA25732C00207644?opendocument

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:46am

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:24am:

____ wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

Great argument. You're saying that because one facet of leftist thought has caused great harm to the institution of marriage (and consequently, society as a whole) we should allow another facet to destroy it completely.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Verge on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:53am

So when will the ALP put it to the floor?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by FriYAY on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm

>>>>>>

The majority of Australians are so sick to death of whinging whining gays that they say yes to SSM just so they will STFU and people and governments can get on with important issues.

>>>>>>

Sounds more like it.. ::)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:18pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Nope. I'm saying no such thing.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:20pm

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Really? The "majority"?

Any statistics to back this up, or is it just the majoirty of Australians you associate with?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by FriYAY on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:25pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:20pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Really? The "majority"?

Any statistics to back this up, or is it just the majoirty of Australians you associate with?

Lighten up FFS ::)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:28pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Nope. I'm saying no such thing.

Oh. My mistake.

So what was the relevance of showing recent trends regarding marriage and family?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by matty on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm

If the ALP brought this in, then it would be yet another trash to democracy. They went to the last election with a promise of no change to the marriage act. Also, homosexual marriage is unnatural, and would dent the holy sanctity of the holy and sacramental union between man, woman and God.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Verge on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Marriage does go against nature, but its not for you to say God doesnt exist. You cant expect people to forget thousands of years of religion, a religion spread all over the world in many variants. If you want tolerance, you should practice it as well.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:49pm

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:20pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Really? The "majority"?

Any statistics to back this up, or is it just the majoirty of Australians you associate with?

Lighten up FFS ::)

So, you made it up?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by dsmithy70 on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:53pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Nope. I'm saying no such thing.

Oh. My mistake.

So what was the relevance of showing recent trends regarding marriage and family?

So you would advocate for the reinstatement of "At fault Divorce"?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:54pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Nope. I'm saying no such thing.

Oh. My mistake.

So what was the relevance of showing recent trends regarding marriage and family?

That's OK: everyone makes mistakes.

The relevance is that it suggests that marriage may not actually be "the glue that holds society together."

Simple.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Verge on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:59pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

That may well be the case, but it is still a very active belief system the world over, an entreched one within the culture of society. Its hardly a good counter argument to those who oppose gay marriage, when marriage itself is a concept of society as well.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:07pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:54pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:28pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

Nope. I'm saying no such thing.

Oh. My mistake.

So what was the relevance of showing recent trends regarding marriage and family?

That's OK: everyone makes mistakes.

The relevance is that it suggests that marriage may not actually be "the glue that holds society together."

Simple.

That's a bit short sighted though.

Would it be wrong to say social cohesion has lessened over the time frame to which your trends refer?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:14pm

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

Marriage is indeed a "social construct" or "unnatural" but it was instituted as protection for women and children. The natural state of affairs is that a small group of alpha males would sire children far and wide, leaving the women to fend for them, and the children without a strong male role model. By binding a man to a woman via marriage, it guaranteed support and family bonds. I don't see the same need for homosexual unions - each man can fend for themselves just as well, and children are a non-issue since they cannot be produced within that union.

So, what's the point of it all?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:59pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by buzzanddidj on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:48pm

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:53am:

So when will the ALP put it to the floor?

They WON'T
NOR will the LibNats
( ... BOTH, in either Government or Opposition)

Yet the equality reform has MAJORITY support in the broad electorate ?

YES

But NOT in the MARGINAL "bogan belts" ( ... western 'burbs" of the capitals) - or the "troppo zones" ( ... FNQ and the NT)

And THESE electorates are where governments are MADE and DESTROYED

( ... but don't expect EITHER party to admit to THAT)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm

I surveyed a more representative sample of ordinary hard working church going Australians and few support Homo Marriage - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. This is a bad idea for the structure of society and the economy cannot sustain it - the choice is stark - Homo welfare = Kids in a state farm and the Grandparents and disabled Euthanized - its that simple. Society cannot sustain economically the socialist, nanny state materialist, pure economics model without mass killings. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by FriYAY on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:10pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:49pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:25pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:20pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:11pm:

Really? The "majority"?

Any statistics to back this up, or is it just the majoirty of Australians you associate with?

Lighten up FFS ::)

So, you made it up?

Oh no I didn’t make it up it was a real study.

:D ::)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:13pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

No requirement needed.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:15pm

If your son comes home and tells you he is a homosexual you should disown him for the sake of the family unit and structure. That is the normal and natural structure of family. Homo Atheist welfare is not in accord with how family and society evolved and organized itself naturally, it must be forced on us. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:23pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. ...

Is that just a subjective opinion, or do you actually have something to substantiate the claim?

I'd be interested in seeing whatever you have.

Plus, what's really behind their agenda? What is it that these "atheist Political elites and subversives" are ultimately trying to achieve? A new world order run by lesbian couples?

It all sounds very intriguing.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:25pm

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

[quote author=24393820343820570 link=1333586457/15#15 date=1333594178]
Oh no I didn’t make it up it was a real study.

:D ::)

Cool.

Do you have a link to it?

Who actually carried out the study?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:29pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:15pm:

If your son comes home and tells you he is a homosexual you should disown him for the sake of the family unit and structure.

What about one's daughter?

Disown them too?

How, exactly, does disowning a family member benefit "the family unit and structure"?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:38pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

That can be done with a union of gay people.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:52pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:38pm:

That can be done with a union of gay people.

Correct.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. ...

Only that I support the natural order of family structure and how it self organizes over hundreds of thousands of years to survive and protect themselves and you are trying to impose changes that rip that apart completely to create a human farm for the sake of the welfare of Atheist and Homo political elites. An unscientific, unnatural nanny state system where children are raised in Nanny State farms and the elderly and disabled must be killed. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:05pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Only that I support the natural order of family structure ...

No you don't.

You want to break families apart. You stated:

"If your son comes home and tells you he is a homosexual you should disown him for the sake of the family unit and structure."

As far as families are concerned, you're an absolute disgrace.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:06pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Tell us, you seem to be asking as if you already know the answer.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by FriYAY on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:07pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

[quote author=24393820343820570 link=1333586457/15#15 date=1333594178]
Oh no I didn’t make it up it was a real study.

:D ::)

Cool.

Do you have a link to it?

Who actually carried out the study?

Sweet.

Cuff.

The FriYAY institute for morons that take everything too seriously.

::)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by great one on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:09pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. ...

What exactly is the natural order ? nature has many different variations of family, from a herd of elephants that act as one unit, to two male dogs going at it like rabbitts ... or are they all going to go go to hell? and don't give me the bibles version of family, families were around in many forms long before the bible was ever conceived ....

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:10pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:05pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Only that I support the natural order of family structure ...

No you don't.

You want to break families apart. You stated:

"If your son comes home and tells you he is a homosexual you should disown him for the sake of the family unit and structure."

As far as families are concerned, you're an absolute disgrace.

That is the natural order of the family structure, a homosexual is a threat to the security of their parents. The Atheistic system requires children being raised in state farms and the elderly and diasabled killed - just to give a few Homo and Atheistic elites with delusions of grandure and god like powers a luxurious decadent lifestyle...

Homosexuals and Atheists are completely at war with the natural order extended of family.

::)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:10pm

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

[quote author=24393820343820570 link=1333586457/15#15 date=1333594178]
Oh no I didn’t make it up it was a real study.

:D ::)

Cool.

Do you have a link to it?

Who actually carried out the study?

Sweet.

Cuff.

The FriYAY institute for morons that take everything too seriously.

::)

How apt.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:11pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. ...

How do you know. All the gay families would have died out.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:12pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Tell us, you seem to be asking as if you already know the answer.

To first conceive, and then provide a stable environment for the nurturing of children.

Quote:

Children, rather than sexual intercourse, "are the true purpose of marriage, which should therefore be not regarded as consummated until such time as there is a prospect of children
-Bertrand Rusell

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by FriYAY on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:12pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

[quote author=24393820343820570 link=1333586457/15#15 date=1333594178]
Oh no I didn’t make it up it was a real study.

:D ::)

Cool.

Do you have a link to it?

Who actually carried out the study?

Sweet.

Cuff.

The FriYAY institute for morons that take everything too seriously.

::)

How apt.

Correct.

Because you are a moron that takes everything too seriously... :-*

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by great one on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:13pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. ...

How do you know. All the gay families would have died out.

Are you claiming that hetro couples don't have gay kids? or that gay kids are only born to gay parents? hahaha ? How does that work? Think about it next time...

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:13pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Surely you know the answer. You can't be that stupid.

Then again ... :-/

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:14pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. ...

Many forms - perhaps. But throughout all the permutations, one thing remains constant - the presence of both a mother and a father.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:15pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Surely you know the answer. You can't be that stupid.

Then again ... :-/

I want to hear it from you. What's the point?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by great one on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:15pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Tell us, you seem to be asking as if you already know the answer.

To first conceive, and then provide a stable environment for the nurturing of children.

Quote:

Children, rather than sexual intercourse, "are the true purpose of marriage, which should therefore be not regarded as consummated until such time as there is a prospect of children
-Bertrand Rusell

So all those people who had the ceremony, signed the papers, and think they are married, but have no kids, are really not married? Wow, I wish I had know that before ...

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:16pm

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

[quote author=24393820343820570 link=1333586457/15#15 date=1333594178]
Oh no I didn’t make it up it was a real study.

:D ::)

Cool.

Do you have a link to it?

Who actually carried out the study?

Sweet.

Cuff.

The FriYAY institute for morons that take everything too seriously.

::)

How apt.

Correct.

Because you are a moron that takes everything too seriously... :-*

Is name calling all you have?

How about acting like an adult? Good idea?

If you have something interesting to say, by all means say it.

However, if you intend on making outrageous claims you need to be able to back them up with something. Otherwise, you end up looking like an idiot.

So, a little less name calling and a bit more substance from now on, OK?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:16pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Tell us, you seem to be asking as if you already know the answer.

To first conceive, and then provide a stable environment for the nurturing of children.

Quote:

Children, rather than sexual intercourse, "are the true purpose of marriage, which should therefore be not regarded as consummated until such time as there is a prospect of children
-Bertrand Rusell

So all those people who had the ceremony, signed the papers, and think they are married, but have no kids, are really not married? Wow, I wish I had know that before ...

I'm sure there's many things you "wish you know" - how to read would be foremost among them.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:17pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. ...

Now you are the one introducing the Bible, but I could point to cultures all over the world and the natural order is the extended family, not the Atheistic Nanny state and Homosexuals are disowned everywhere. There is no point pretending thats not the way it is because that is the way it is because Parents instinctively know that to protect the family structure and well being the Homosexual must be disowned. Its ingrained in our DNA, its how we evolved. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by great one on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:18pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:16pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Tell us, you seem to be asking as if you already know the answer.

To first conceive, and then provide a stable environment for the nurturing of children.

Quote:

Children, rather than sexual intercourse, "are the true purpose of marriage, which should therefore be not regarded as consummated until such time as there is a prospect of children
-Bertrand Rusell

So all those people who had the ceremony, signed the papers, and think they are married, but have no kids, are really not married? Wow, I wish I had know that before ...

I'm sure there's many things you "wish you know" - how to read would be foremost among them.

Good thing I have you to show me then isn't it ...

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:19pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Surely you know the answer. You can't be that stupid.

Then again ... :-/

I want to hear it from you. What's the point?

Doesn't work that way, sorry.

If you are indeed that stupid, you'll have to do some research and learn something on your own. Give a man a fish ... etc.

I'll give you a hint to start ... think about people who die without a will. There you go, I gave you that one for free. The rest is up to you.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:23pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:19pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:15pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Surely you know the answer. You can't be that stupid.

Then again ... :-/

I want to hear it from you. What's the point?

ahh but Ive already voluntarily answered that question, and we all know you won't agree with me - so if the purpose of a "legal kinship" is not to provide a stable environemnt for the raising of children - what is the point?

Surely wirting a will would be much easier than rewriting the definition of a tradition that predates civilization itself? Surely if there is a problem with inheritance law, the right way to fix it would be to address inheritance law, rather than marital law as a proxy?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by FriYAY on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:26pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:16pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:07pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:25pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:10pm:

[quote author=24393820343820570 link=1333586457/15#15 date=1333594178]
Oh no I didn’t make it up it was a real study.

:D ::)

Cool.

Do you have a link to it?

Who actually carried out the study?

Sweet.

Cuff.

The FriYAY institute for morons that take everything too seriously.

::)

How apt.

Correct.

Because you are a moron that takes everything too seriously... :-*

OMG

Get a life thing, seriously, i'm worried about you. :-/

The FriYAY institue of all things outrageous, carried out a study and found 1 out of every Uncle Meat needs to relax.

8-) :D

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:27pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:23pm:

Sounds fine to me.

Let's do away with marriage altogether and just make sure every one has a will.

Either that, or make the institution available to everyone.

As long as no one gets hurt.

Definitions get rewritten all the time, by the way. It's nothing to be scared of.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:28pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:06pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:33pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:09pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 1:38pm:

The point is that it is an institution of creation of life between a man and a woman, not a stalk and a spare babies factory or spare sperm factory.

No it's not.

Procreation is not a requirement of marriage.

What's the point of marriage to you then?

It creates a legal kinship.

What's the purpose of a "legal kinship"?

Tell us, you seem to be asking as if you already know the answer.

To first conceive, and then provide a stable environment for the nurturing of children.

Quote:

Children, rather than sexual intercourse, "are the true purpose of marriage, which should therefore be not regarded as consummated until such time as there is a prospect of children
-Bertrand Rusell

The baby factory and the stalk. Well I grew up and knew the stalk does not exist.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:29pm

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Get a life thing, seriously, i'm worried about you. :-/

I'll be fine.

You need to worry about the traffic you're about to hit.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by FriYAY on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:31pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Get a life thing, seriously, i'm worried about you. :-/

I'll be fine.

You need to worry about the traffic you're about to hit.

Gay mardi gras?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:32pm

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:13pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:11pm:

Johnsmith wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:09pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:00pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:23pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 2:00pm:

... - this is entirely driven by atheist Political elites and subversives who ASIO should be monitoring. ...

How do you know. All the gay families would have died out.

Are you claiming that hetro couples don't have gay kids? or that gay kids are only born to gay parents? hahaha ? How does that work? Think about it next time...

So as in history, you will have 'i was born to such and such' which happen to be a man and a woman', so no I am not claiming what you just said.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:35pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:27pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:23pm:

The instituion IS available to everyone. Gay people have exactly the same right as everyone else to enter into marriage - marriage having forever been known to be the union of a man and a woman. If that doesn't sound appealing, the answer is simple - don't do it.
Where is the logic in demanding to be allowed to do soemthing, that you don't want to do anyway?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:55pm

The state has no right to legally redefine family which predates the State and impose unnatural, unscientific ideological values on the whole of society and the way it functions for the sake of a few Homosexual atheists with delusions of grandeur, state farms,Euthanasia and world Government. That is not the natural order of things. families organize to protect themselves to survive. Atheistic socialism works to destroy it. Changing the whole family system for the sake of homosexuals is not an option, the homosexual must be disowned or we are all screwed. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:09pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

The instituion IS available to everyone.

It's available to every individual, however, it's not available to same sex couples (to marry each other).

Therefore, simply extend marriage to same sex couples.

That way they can create a kinship and receive all the legal benefits that married heterosexual couples receive.

How would that create a problem?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:11pm

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:31pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:29pm:

FriYAY wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:26pm:

Get a life thing, seriously, i'm worried about you. :-/

I'll be fine.

You need to worry about the traffic you're about to hit.

Gay mardi gras?

Really?

I thought you were going fishing at the lake.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by FriYAY on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:13pm

Just don't let 'em have kids.

;)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:13pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:55pm:

The state has no right to legally redefine family which predates the State ...

You're quite mistaken there.

They have every right to do that.

Are you not familiar with how governments work, and what they do?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:14pm

Homosexual marriage = patricide and matricide and children raised in socialist state farms as economic consumers and servants for the Homo/Atheist elite. The state has no right to attack the natural organization of the institution of family and redefine it... :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:19pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

The state has no right to attack the natural organization of the institution of family and redefine it... :)

It's not actually an "attack" on "the natural organization of the institution of family". Moreover, it's not being pushed by the state.

Things change, and laws change accordingly.

It's nothing to be scared of.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:23pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:19pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

The state has no right to attack the natural organization of the institution of family and redefine it... :)

These changes are the result of political conspiracy of a few dangerous individuals who in the natural order of things are put out and disowned by their parents because they are a threat to the wellbeing and survival of the family. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm

A Homosexual is a traitor to his parents, narcissistic and with delusions of grandeur. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:09pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

The instituion IS available to everyone.

Nicely edited. Handy. ;)

Why should only jewish boys get to have a bar mitzvah?

Why should only people who've completed school get to graduate?

Why can't I play in the AFL?

The answer to all is that they don't meet the "selection criteria."

If everybody had a bar mitzvah, it'd lose it's significance for jewish boys.

If everybody could graduate regardless of whether they qualify, it loses it's significance for those who do.

If everybody who wanted to, was given a spot on an AFL team, it wouldn't be to an elite standard anymore.

Theres' nothign wrong with certain groups having their own customs, traditions and practices. Quite why everyone needs to be "included" in other peoples business is the big question.

Want a bar mitzvah but aren't jewish? start a similar practice but call it soemthing else.

feel left out when your school friends are garduating but you dropped out 1 year ago? Have your own party.

Want to play AFL but aren't good enough? Play in the local amateur league.

When everyone is "special", nobody is.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:33pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:23pm:

If that's true, I'd be quite concerned.

Do you have any evidence to support that claim though?

Don't ignore the question this time. You've raised a legitimate concern and I'm fully prepared to listen to your argument. All we need now is some evidence - do you have any? Any at all?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:35pm

Socialism and Atheism is an abomination because at the heart of its agenda it quite simply demands that we murder our parents so they are not a burden on materialists like Homo's and Atheists. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by adelcrow on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:36pm

Poofs and dykes should be allowed to get married and I see no mention of them in the bible so their union is blessed by God.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:39pm

Marriage is universally spelled out in all cultures and sacred texts as a union between a man and a woman and homosexuals are quite rightly disowned and shunned because they hate their parents. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:56pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:39pm:

Marriage is universally spelled out in all cultures and sacred texts as a union between a man and a woman and homosexuals are quite rightly disowned and shunned because they hate their parents. :)

Have you told Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Iceland, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, South Africa, Sweden, and half a dozen states in the US about this?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:03pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

The answer to all is that they don't meet the "selection criteria."

I hate to break this to you but, selection criteria change.

Always have, and always will.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:04pm

Blood is thicker than water,when the chips are down true - family helps each other survive - Atheism starts killing useless eaters...Turn the homo's out and disown them from your family whatever the state says....The institution of the family predates the state and it will out last it - it cannot be redefined or abolished. Homo's and Atheists out. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:06pm

The Homo Atheist welfare state failed when Nero committed suicide... ;)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:11pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

The answer to all is that they don't meet the "selection criteria."

I hate to break this to you but, selection criteria change.

Always have, and always will.

Indeed they do - when theres a good reason for them to.

soo...in the absence of anything better than "they should be able to because they should" I wouldn't hold my breath expecting this selction criteria to change.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by adelcrow on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm

Im sure these people would change their tune in a flash if one of their kids was gay and wanted to marry their partner.
Its easy to bash minorities from a far but its much harder when it effects people close to you.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:20pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

My cousin is a homo.
He's also got AIDS.

You do really need to learn the difference between "bashing minorities" and having principles.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:27pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

Its crook when those minorities want to abolish the traditional family, put children in state farms, have a world Government and kill the disabled and elderly. You are asking simply too much, thats why Atheists and Homo's should be disowned, abandoned, shunned and disinherited from the family. The family unit and its genetic survival based on cooperation and care depends on it. ;)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:32pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

My cousin is a homo.
He's also got AIDS.

You do really need to learn the difference between "bashing minorities" and having principles.

The major cause of AIDS spreading was the church convincing people not to use contraception.
Strangely we have a majority Christian society, so do they have principles?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by adelcrow on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:34pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

My cousin is a homo.
He's also got AIDS.

You do really need to learn the difference between "bashing minorities" and having principles.

You need to learn the difference between having principles and pushing your principles on to others.
Gay marriage is happening all over the globe and it will happen here as well so all are doing is behaving like spineless backward hicks.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:35pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

My cousin is a homo.
He's also got AIDS.

You do really need to learn the difference between "bashing minorities" and having principles.

The major cause of AIDS spreading was the church convincing people not to use contraception.
Strangely we have a majority Christian society, so do they have principles?

That might be "A" cause, but "THE" main cause is homos having unprotected anal sex. I don't think they take too much notice of what the church says.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:38pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

My cousin is a homo.
He's also got AIDS.

You do really need to learn the difference between "bashing minorities" and having principles.

You first! In case you didn't notice, my principles on this issue mirror the status quo - who's pushing their views on whom again? ;D ;D ;D
Homorriage being legalized in a dozen or so countries isn't exactly taking the world by storm. 12 down, only 200 more to go!

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:38pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:32pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

My cousin is a homo.
He's also got AIDS.

You do really need to learn the difference between "bashing minorities" and having principles.

The major cause of AIDS spreading was the church convincing people not to use contraception.
Strangely we have a majority Christian society, so do they have principles?

That might be "A" cause, but "THE" main cause is homos having unprotected anal sex. I don't think they take too much notice of what the church says.

No it's not, aids can be transmitted just as easily through vaginal sex.
The virus started in Africa and spread rapidly due to people not using condoms.

Homosexuals were probably more responsible for the spread in the west, due to the fact the church has oppressed them for so long they are forced to have discreet risky sex.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:46pm

Homo's and Atheists are trying to take us back to the Roman days when they could legally fiddle little boys... :)
:o

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:48pm

*SIGH*

I don't post these stats becasue I want to victimize homos, I do so because you're a confused man. Don't make stupid statemnts and I won't have to post these "hatefacts" to correct you.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/us.htm

Note the vast majority of infections are homos.

Quote:

In the USA, the UK, and a number of other European countries, HIV and AIDS have affected young gay men more than any other group of people. In the UK and USA especially, the percentage of young gay men who have been infected with HIV and the percentage with AIDS is much higher than other groups such as heterosexual people or children.

In the USA, it is estimated that nearly 255,000 men who have sex with men were living with HIV/AIDS in 2007, and nearly 5,400 had died. Around 48% of all people diagnosed with AIDS in America in 2007 were probably exposed to HIV through male-to-male sexual contact.1 In the UK, by the end of June 2009, around 45,947 diagnoses of HIV had been in men who had probably become infected through sex with another man. 53% of these men were aged below 35.2

There are also other parts of the world where men who have sex with men, many of whom do not identify themselves as gay, are affected by HIV. For example, the primary HIV transmission route in Latin America is sex between men. In Brazil, men who have sex with men accounted for 40% of all AIDS diagnoses among males between 2000 and 2005.3 In some cities in Colombia, estimates of HIV prevalence among men who have sex with men range from 10% to 25%.

http://www.avert.org/young-gay-men.htm

The transmission methods in Africa are tricky to work out due to the fiercely secretive nature of homos there. They then stick it to their wives, who pass it to their kids through the womb and so on, and so forth....

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:00pm

Tolerator,
I am not confused.
This is not how it happened in Africa and if it didn’t get so bad in Africa we probably wouldn’t have it so bad over here anyway.
The rates of unprotected vaginal sex in Africa and many other 3rd world regions would hugely trump rates of unprotected homosexual anal sex.

Fact is the church enforced a no contraception rule strictly and it resulted in the death of millions, following the history of the church is of great possibility that they did this on purpose.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by adelcrow on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:06pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

Through his anti franger stance the Pope is directly responsible for the spread of AIDS through central and south America, Asia and Africa. The church has no right to say who should marry who after the centuries of abuse they have inflicted on many millions of people throughout the ages.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:06pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

When half the population has it, obviously it's going to be spread pretty easily. The question is how did it become "terminal" in the first place?

If the dirty karnts fked monkeys to create the disease (they'll tell you it just magically "jumped species" - as if they'd admit they bugger monkeys) no telling who/what else they rooted, then go home to their wives like nothing happened.

Anyway who cares - this is about homorriage, not bug chasers.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:07pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

they've got as much "right" as you do.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:09pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

People will never admit it but it is obviously true.
As I said if you compare it with other actions by the church in the past it fits perfectly with their agenda.

The church is also responsible for the oppression of homosexuals in the west which is also what caused AIDS to spread in the west because they were forced by society to have risky sex.

Its one big shady thing.

Go further down the rabbit hole and you will learn that cures have been hidden from the public also.
Go even further and their is evidence that AIDS was designed in a lab.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:10pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:07pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:00pm:

they've got as much "right" as you do.

Which means they have no right

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:19pm

Aids happens because homo sex is against the natural order of things. Also, homo's are materialists and have no right placing a legal materialist value on the institution of marriage. Our economy is for the sh!t and atheistic pure economics is the cause - families need to realign their values and priorities in order to assist each other to survive in austere times and homo's and atheistic values are inconsistent with that. In a time of Austerity we cannot be breaking down the very foundations that enable us to survive. ::) :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by progressiveslol on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:22pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:34pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:20pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:17pm:

My cousin is a homo.
He's also got AIDS.

You do really need to learn the difference between "bashing minorities" and having principles.

Gays are pushing their non-creation issues onto others. I get how that may look.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:23pm

I am not a Catholic, but on matters of family and contraception the Church speaks on behalf of the right order of things and traditional family - I choose to believe them over a self serving atheist or polly any day of the week. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:24pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:09pm:

Go even further and their is evidence that AIDS was designed in a lab.

If it was designed in a lab, it must mean they gave it to the monkeys, not the other way around.

Oh won't somebody think of the monkeys!!!

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:24pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

I am not a Catholic Church, but on matters of family and contraception the Church speaks on behalf of the right order of things and traditional family - I choose to believe them over a self serving atheist or polly any day of the week. :)

Traditional families have been using contraception since before 2000 years ago.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:26pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:09pm:

Go even further and their is evidence that AIDS was designed in a lab.

If it was designed in a lab, it must mean they gave it to the monkeys, not the other way around.

Oh won't somebody think of the monkeys!!!

Yes you would typically test it on animals

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by adelcrow on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:29pm

Honestly..anyone that bases their morals on the actions of the churches and their representatives over the past few thousand years is going down the morality crapper very fast.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:31pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Traditional families have been using contraception since before 2000 years ago.

Faithfulness is an essential quality of marriage and family, the reason it is an unknown institution to materialists like atheists and homo's. There is no room for treason in the extended family unit or the marriage relationship. Since atheists and homo's are faithless...well you do the math. Their evil empire is one built on treason, mass murder and faithlessness. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:33pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:31pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:24pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

Traditional families have been using contraception since before 2000 years ago.

Contraception has nothing do to with faithfulness, in fact it actually increases it because 1. you dont have 1000 kids running around and 2. if the wife gets preggaz you know its not yours.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:41pm

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

The answer to all is that they don't meet the "selection criteria."

I hate to break this to you but, selection criteria change.

Always have, and always will.

It's changed in other countries, and it will eventually change here. Only a matter of time.

And when it happens, the sun will still shine the next day.

Crisis over.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:43pm

The Homo/Atheist welfare state failed the day Nero pierced his own heart with a blade 2000 years ago - why would we want to revisit such primitive backwater values...sure here is the homo welfare state...

Dystopian Hatred of the reductionist Materialists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-nymIpvVd8

Hatred of Big Brother is love of family... :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Uncle Meat on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:44pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:46pm:

Homo's and Atheists are trying to take us back to the Roman days when they could legally fiddle little boys... :)
:o

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:45pm

Never yet heard an atheist or a homo give a sermon on faithfulness have you...?
:)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by adelcrow on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:47pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:45pm:

Never yet heard an atheist or a homo give a sermon on faithfulness have you...?
:)

Ive heard a gay Anglican priest friend of mine give sermons on faithfulness.
So the answer is...yes I have :P

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:50pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:45pm:

Never yet heard an atheist or a homo give a sermon on faithfulness have you...?
:)

Ive heard a gay Anglican priest friend of mine give sermons on faithfulness.
So the answer is...yes I have :P

Sure, great moral foundation for a sermon on faith from an atheist and a homo who is by definition, faithless... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by The tolerator on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:53pm

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:41pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Uncle Meat wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 5:03pm:

... wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:31pm:

The answer to all is that they don't meet the "selection criteria."

I hate to break this to you but, selection criteria change.

Always have, and always will.

It's changed in other countries, and it will eventually change here. Only a matter of time.

And when it happens, the sun will still shine the next day.

Crisis over.

Alright well you keep thinking positive eh?

maybe you will get your dream wedding one day, after all.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by adelcrow on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:53pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:45pm:

Never yet heard an atheist or a homo give a sermon on faithfulness have you...?
:)

Ive heard a gay Anglican priest friend of mine give sermons on faithfulness.
So the answer is...yes I have :P

Sure, great moral foundation for a sermon on faith from an atheist and a homo who is by definition, faithless... ;D ;D ;D ;D

ok......I'll slowly walk away and close the door behind me.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by corporate_whitey on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 7:05pm

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:53pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

adelcrow wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 6:45pm:

Never yet heard an atheist or a homo give a sermon on faithfulness have you...?
:)

Ive heard a gay Anglican priest friend of mine give sermons on faithfulness.
So the answer is...yes I have :P

Sure, great moral foundation for a sermon on faith from an atheist and a homo who is by definition, faithless... ;D ;D ;D ;D

ok......I'll slowly walk away and close the door behind me.

You do that and while you are at it, go curse out God and your parents like a good little communist... :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by perceptions_now on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 11:46pm

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Marriage does go against nature, but its not for you to say God doesnt exist. You cant expect people to forget thousands of years of religion, a religion spread all over the world in many variants. If you want tolerance, you should practice it as well.

But it is & I say there is no God!

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

really? well that shows only your ignorance - which you have shown many times in the past already.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:59am

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

really? well that shows only your ignorance - which you have shown many times in the past already.

Prove me wrong?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:07am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

really? well that shows only your ignorance - which you have shown many times in the past already.

Prove me wrong?

you might want to make an actual statement rather than a nebulous bit of nonsense like that. The bibles archeological record is considered unimpeachable. so theres a fact. you are already beaten,

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:15am

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

really? well that shows only your ignorance - which you have shown many times in the past already.

Prove me wrong?

you might want to make an actual statement rather than a nebulous bit of nonsense like that. The bibles archeological record is considered unimpeachable. so theres a fact. you are already beaten,

So you are saying because it talks about places that once existed when it was written the stories in it are true?

longy if I was to write a book that said the elephant ate lunch in Bangkok and in 1000 years someone finds this book and works out that bangkok did once exist, does this prove the elephant ate lunch there?

And it is not even close to unimpeachable.
You and I both know you cant bring any real facts that back up your beliefs. I.e. you believe in fairy tales.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:29am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

really? well that shows only your ignorance - which you have shown many times in the past already.

Prove me wrong?

you might want to make an actual statement rather than a nebulous bit of nonsense like that. The bibles archeological record is considered unimpeachable. so theres a fact. you are already beaten,

the archeological and historical racord is unimpeachable. that is an awful lot of facts you even now choose to dismiss using your illogic.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:32am

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:29am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:07am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

Verge wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:31pm:

matty wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

Isn’t marriage itself unnatural?
Also, god does not exist.

Thousands of years of religion, and not one fact.

really? well that shows only your ignorance - which you have shown many times in the past already.

Prove me wrong?

you might want to make an actual statement rather than a nebulous bit of nonsense like that. The bibles archeological record is considered unimpeachable. so theres a fact. you are already beaten,

the archeological and historical racord is unimpeachable. that is an awful lot of facts you even now choose to dismiss using your illogic.

Which particular archeological and hitorical racords?
We both know there is no evidence in there that backs up its claims, if there was we would both know about it.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:58am

Too hard a question longy?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 11:58am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Too hard a question longy?

not too hard. just no point. you are like lastnail who has no standard of proof he will accept. You can pretend that the biblicl historical and archeological record is not considered an excellent source by professional, but you will be a fool. You asked abotu facts then when presented with one, go on another tangent.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 12:05pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Too hard a question longy?

Longweekend,
Leave Nail alone.
When it comes to bullshit LW is right up there with his church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Soren on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 12:24pm

The arse is a dead end. You can't build a future on arse-banditry, even if you rename it 'marriage', it is still only arse banditry.

L'Origine du monde is not an arse.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 12:31pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Too hard a question longy?

Longweekend,
Leave Nail alone.
When it comes to bullshit LW is right up there with his church:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

your girlfriend can defend him/her self you moron. you act more gay than most gays.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 12:51pm

LW,

Quote:

your girlfriend can defend him/her self you moron. you act more gay than most gays.

I am not now, nor have I ever been a homosexual.
Longweekend uses that taunt whenever he has lost an argument.
He also doesn't watch any videos that I post.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 1:19pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 11:58am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 10:58am:

Too hard a question longy?

All I am asking is which archaeological and/or historical evidence you are talking about?
Its considered a good source of literature, as for its contents they are strictly fiction and its claims are not backed by evidence, reality or fact.

You didn’t present me with a fact you said there are facts, so what are those facts?
Not a hard question.
Shouldn’t be such a procrastinated response longy it doesn’t help your argument.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by longweekend58 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 2:02pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 12:51pm:

LW,

Quote:

your girlfriend can defend him/her self you moron. you act more gay than most gays.

I am not now, nor have I ever been a homosexual.
Longweekend uses that taunt whenever he has lost an argument.
He also doesn't watch any videos that I post.

you act gay, talk gay and profess your love for toenail in every secnd post.

you are gay.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 2:56pm

So are you admitting there are no facts in the bible?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:12pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 12:51pm:

LW,

Quote:

your girlfriend can defend him/her self you moron. you act more gay than most gays.

I am not now, nor have I ever been a homosexual.
Longweekend uses that taunt whenever he has lost an argument.
He also doesn't watch any videos that I post.

you act gay, talk gay and profess your love for toenail in every secnd post.

you are gay.

Longweekend is a homosexual.

He can't stop talking about it.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by thelastnail on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 2:02pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 12:51pm:

LW,

Quote:

your girlfriend can defend him/her self you moron. you act more gay than most gays.

I am not now, nor have I ever been a homosexual.
Longweekend uses that taunt whenever he has lost an argument.
He also doesn't watch any videos that I post.

you act gay, talk gay and profess your love for toenail in every secnd post.

you are gay.

how's your paranormal friend jesus ? Have you seen him lately :D LOL

how much material money did you give to your invisible friend today ? :D LOL

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:48pm

Quote:

longweekend is a homosexual.

He can't stop talking about it.

You know it wouldn’t surprise me,
Always get the feeling he is trying to compensate for something.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 5:06pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

Quote:

longweekend is a homosexual.

He can't stop talking about it.

You know it wouldn’t surprise me,
Always get the feeling he is trying to compensate for something.

I wouldn't pick up that cake of soap in a communal shower if he was there -
you might get dotted.
:o

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 5:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

Quote:

longweekend is a homosexual.

He can't stop talking about it.

You know it wouldn’t surprise me,
Always get the feeling he is trying to compensate for something.

I wouldn't pick up that cake of soap in a communal shower if he was there -
you might get dotted.
:o

I think he is banned from communal showers

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 5:15pm

You'd have to hope that he was. ;D

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 5:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 5:15pm:

You'd have to hope that he was. ;D

Longweekend to judge - "God told me to"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Soren on Apr 7^th, 2012 at 9:39am

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

Quote:

longweekend is a homosexual.

He can't stop talking about it.

You know it wouldn’t surprise me,
Always get the feeling he is trying to compensate for something.

I always get the feeling that you are a cretin.
Why is that?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Apr 7^th, 2012 at 10:05am

Leviticus 20

Quote:

1
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman,
both of them have committed an abomination:
they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 7^th, 2012 at 10:37am

Soren wrote on Apr 7^th, 2012 at 9:39am:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Apr 6^th, 2012 at 4:48pm:

Quote:

longweekend is a homosexual.

He can't stop talking about it.

You know it wouldn’t surprise me,
Always get the feeling he is trying to compensate for something.

I always get the feeling that you are a cretin.
Why is that?

Is it because people who dont believe in fairy tales are stupid?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Elayne Taylor on Sep 10^th, 2012 at 9:02pm

If they pay enough attention and love the child, then they can adopt the child. That's it. :)
The best is when each of us has its own comfortable home.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Amadd on Sep 10^th, 2012 at 11:57pm

I don't think that gay marriage would agree with our perception of who pays and who doesn't. It would turn the entire lie of our society on it's head.

In that respect, I am all for gay marriage for no other reason than a sobering view of the society that we bind ourselves to.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Soren on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 10:31pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jitocz4kB3k

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by rabbitoh07 on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 10:59pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

I agree with this 100%

But still - I wouldn't mind having a cock in my mouth every now and again. Just on sundays. After Confession.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 11:07pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 10:59pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

I agree with this 100%

But still - I wouldn't mind having a cock in my mouth every now and again. Just on sundays. After Confession.

Just one?

Trying to cut down?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by aquascoot on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 6:31am

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 11:07pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 10:59pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

I agree with this 100%

But still - I wouldn't mind having a cock in my mouth every now and again. Just on sundays. After Confession.

Just one?

Trying to cut down?

bukake

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 6^th, 2012 at 4:37pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2012 at 6:31am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 11:07pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2012 at 10:59pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Apr 5^th, 2012 at 4:14pm:

I agree with this 100%

But still - I wouldn't mind having a thingy in my mouth every now and again. Just on sundays. After Confession.

Just one?

Trying to cut down?

bukake

Come again? :-/

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by iceyone on Dec 7^th, 2012 at 9:33am

As always this topic brings out the best in people.

I am one of those pesky homosexuals - my partner has a daughter (oh noes!) and we've been together for 8 years. (I went to a catholic school for 12 years/don't believe in any of it!)

While I want to get married, I know the fact we can't doesn't change a thing.

What I am pissed about is that we pay taxes (over 50k last year!) are a couple for tax/centrelink and yet the government won't go that final stretch.

Fine don't call it marriage - give everyone a civil union and for those that need it give them a marriage (the sanctity of marriage flew the coop a long time ago - divorce rates are climbing as is the number of children being born without their parents being married!)

As for kiddy fiddling - the church shouldn't be lecturing anyone on this - with their record it's like throwing bolders in glass tea cups!

For those who are uncomfortable/think gay guys are trying to crack on to you - don't flatter yourself - we wouldn't go near you with a 10 foot pole!

As for communal showers - not my type of thing, but whatever floats your boat!

In regards to marrying my sister/cousin/cat/dog/printer cable (damn slippery slopes!) - I'm not sure what freaky things others are in to (and my printer cable is surprisingly attractive!) marriage equality is about 2 unrelated adults wanting to formalise their relationship (and have an awesome party afterwards!)

If we really followed the bible then the following things would be illegal:
Divorce
Eating Shellfish
Bowl Hair Cuts
Working on Sunday
Football (can't touch pig skin!)
Wearing 2 types of material
Stoning people to death

If we look back at history, how did the rights to women voting and black people re:segregation turn out!

I wouldn't want to be on the wrong side of history!

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Jasignature on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 9:50pm

According to Westerners (Americans, British and their Aussie hanger-onerers)
all people who are Celibate, in mixed-race relationships, are 'middle-child', work in so-called 'roll-reversal' jobs and are probably low-breeding Australians as a whole anyway = ARE HOMOSEXUALS ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Some nations just have too much Freedom on their hands.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

There must be at least one poof forum on the internet.

Let's not make it Ozpolitic - yuck.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 12:17am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

Why? :-/

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Spot of Borg on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 3:55am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

There must be at least one poof forum on the internet.

Let's not make it Ozpolitic - yuck.

Hahahahaha. So you dont think the subject should be discussed @ all? Its a current topic and thats what this forum discusses. Current affairs.

SOB

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by mantra on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:33am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

There must be at least one poof forum on the internet.

Let's not make it Ozpolitic - yuck.

People are suspicious of those who portray themselves as homophobic. If you accept homosexuality as a fact of life - then you won't draw attention to yourself Bobby.

Ozpolitic is inclusive - it doesn't matter what sexual persuasion you are. Everyone's view is considered equal.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Spot of Borg on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:47am

mantra wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

There must be at least one poof forum on the internet.

Let's not make it Ozpolitic - yuck.

Coulda fooled me

SOB

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by aquascoot on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:59am

they sure do make a lot of noise, the gays.
a bit like kath from kath and kim.

look at mee, look at meee, look at meeee.

that mardi gras captures the whole "i want the spotlight on me" philosophy.

cant hey just shut the smack up and stop pushing this crap in our faces. they can stick tasers up each other's arsses for all i care. but do it quietly.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:19am

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

Why? :-/

I'd just like the forum cleansed.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by aquascoot on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:59am

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Dec 7^th, 2012 at 9:33am:

i agree with most of that, dont know about women voting though. they're no good with money.
and too touchy feely , made our leaders into soft c#ck eunichs.
maybe on election day you have to take along your latest bank statment.
if its full of shoe purchases, no votes honey.
if its full of fishing tackle , no votes for you sonny.
if its full of brothel visits.....congrats, you're elected

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Spot of Borg on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 7:49am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:59am:

However scantily clad women all over advertising is fine?

SOB

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by sanofi on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 8:54am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

Why? :-/

I'd just like the forum cleansed.

The forum is being cleansed, by the Victorious Alliance. Of trolls like yourself. I'll book an appointment for you with Hyperion.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Hyperion on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 9:13am

sanofi wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

Why? :-/

I'd just like the forum cleansed.

The forum is being cleansed, by the Victorious Alliance. Of trolls like yourself. I'll book an appointment for you with Hyperion.

I accept the mission. I want to make him sweat first.

oar oar oar oar.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by bobbythebat1 on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 3:47pm

Hyperion wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 9:13am:

sanofi wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 8:54am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

Why? :-/

I'd just like the forum cleansed.

The forum is being cleansed, by the Victorious Alliance. Of trolls like yourself. I'll book an appointment for you with Hyperion.

I accept the mission. I want to make him sweat first.

oar oar oar oar.

I am not a bad person when you get to know me. :)

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Robert Paulson on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 4:29pm

Been a few weeks since I've heard teh poofters whinging about this. That must be some kind of record.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Karnal on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 12:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 12:17am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 10:36pm:

I wish these homo threads could be placed on another forum dedicated to homos.

Why? :-/

I'd just like the forum cleansed.

The cleansing continues. Freewill, you see?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Soren on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 8:49pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 7:49am:

However scantily clad women all over advertising is fine?

SOB

Oh, yes, very fine.
As a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I must say yes! YES! YES!

Or do you have something against us lesbians trapped in men's bodies, you insensitive brute?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Jasignature on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:39pm

Yes. I Homosexuals tend to give the Fashion Industry a 'ridiculous' helping hand like Lady Gaga as if to say you have to be a Homosexual to be 'fashionable'.
Um - yeah right ::)

If Homosexuals want EQUAL RIGHTS, then why is it not socially acceptable for Rednecks to go out an have a Street Riot once a year??? :-?

I know Homosexuals use RELIGION as their scapegoat for justification. But having worked in the Medical Industry in Theatres where 'Rectal' operations were carried out because of the act of 'ANAL SEX' which MEDICALLY speaking is not good for the anus - be it male or female, nor is sticking probes, dildos, etc up the anus either.
That's why people say "Homosexuality is not right for very 'simple' reasons."
Then you have AIDS that kicked off mostly due to Homosexual activity beyond just 'safe sex'.

Look. Just because the anus is another oriface, doesn't mean you can poke some fun at it.
Just because my car can do 200kmphr, doesn't mean I should do 100kmphr in a 40km School Zone ! :P

I think the West (who is initiating all this) and the Media that is cashing in on it all. Is going about it the wrong way. Let alone 'Western' Medicine which is saying Homosexuality is a 'genetic' thing which is a real load of crapola! >:(

I met my Security Guard wife as a male Nurse (role reversal apparently) and she is based upon my father (because I'm a middle-child and reverse of my two older and younger siblings). I've even had a relationship with a black female Colonel from the Zimbabwe Military. As a 'male' Nurse, my dive mates are a 160kg Stonemason and Ex-Biker, a former night manager of the 4th roughest pub in NSW and now an accomplished Police Officer, a national Martial Arts champion of Australia amongst other sporting accomplishments.
...it doesn't mean I have to poke my weeny in someone elses pooey. Or try to make to North/North magnets stick together or Australian 'mateship' is really 'gayship' back in those Gallipoli trenches as well.

Homosexuals need HELP, not Legal support or Terrorists and Rioters might be looking for 'equality' too.
Homosexuality is not right in getting legal rights.

I'm sorry. But that is the cold hard facts. Just like there are a lot of things in life I would like to get away with and feel as if it is justified but I know I am wrong and what I am doing is wrong and I just have to accept that I am wrong.

...and I'm sure no-one enjoys being bugger*** up the A*** in the workplace and with their money either by an A***H****, etc, etc, etc. :-?

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Spot of Borg on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:22am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:39pm:

We used to have a mardis gras in katoomba every year until the penrith cops shut us down. There are plenty of "straight" festivals around.

Quote:

Homosexuals need HELP, not Legal support or Terrorists and Rioters might be looking for 'equality' too.
Homosexuality is not right in getting legal rights.

you obviously have some problems. I would suggest it is you that needs help in accepting that other ppl are different from you and how they have sex is none of your business?

SOB

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Jasignature on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 10:39am

That's fine with me Spot of Borg,
if people in DENIAL what to exist.
But when they try to manipulate a justification of what they are doing is RIGHT and NORMAL then I draw a line and say "NO" and as stated, this comes from a Medical point of view rather than Religious which seems the Homosexuality Movements only excuse. ::) (to blame?)

Why should Religion change its ways and be forced via American Politics and Media to accept? Why can't Homosexuals start their own Religion to support their needs instead of trying to coerce others?
Why do people who have sex with people of the same sex which negates 'procreating' also what to have kids via alternative means like adoption (pet syndrome?), surrogacy pregnancies, sperm donations, etc? :-?
Especially when a lot of Hetero couples have to wait in line behind them :-?

Sex is a simple thing. Sure, some people can't even cope with 'normal' sex while others just try to make a simple thing more complicated (like the current Gay movement is doing ...just to confuse kids EVEN MORE ::) than the potentially gay kids are already.).

I think the Church, Mosques and other Holy worlds just try to endorse GOOD SEX (if one so chooses to seek immortality via sex and its procreation - which is a pleasure in itself) rather than S**t Sex.
I don't go for Homosexuals being intellectually superior in their justifications either just because Rednecks are portrayed as stupid. Sorry - but the Homosexual movement is as stupid as North Korea's economy. :P

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Robert Paulson on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 10:46am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:22am:

We used to have a mardis gras in katoomba every year until the penrith cops shut us down. There are plenty of "straight" festivals around.

name one.

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Spot of Borg on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 11:20am

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 10:46am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:22am:

We used to have a mardis gras in katoomba every year until the penrith cops shut us down. There are plenty of "straight" festivals around.

name one.

Australia day @ south bank (i think its australia day - could be called something else).

SOB

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Support Continues To Rise
Post by Robert Paulson on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 11:21am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

... wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 10:46am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 4:22am:

We used to have a mardis gras in katoomba every year until the penrith cops shut us down. There are plenty of "straight" festivals around.

name one.

Australia day @ south bank (i think its australia day - could be called something else).

SOB

So what makes australia day a 'straight' festival?