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Does Science Show Homosexuality is Healthy?
Dec 16th, 2012 at 1:25pm
 
Of course the information in these studies do not paint homosexual relationships in a good light, so it is probably a load of rubbish, and we should avert our eyes, so as to avoid being disturbed by what is being disclosed.

After all, if in the first instance we do not examine, what we may discover to be 'disturbing information', we won't ever have to think about that information ever again, and that information can never affect us.
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Does Science Show Homosexuality is Healthy?


A major study by Bell and Weinberg revealed that 78% of male homo- sexual "affairs" (relationships entered into with an intent of commitment) lasted less than three years.
Only 12% lasted five years or longer.
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73% of the psychiatrists in the American Psychiatric Association who responded to a survey by Harold I. Lief said that they thought that homosexual men are less happy than others.
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David McWhirter and Andrew Mattison conducted a non-random study of 156 stable committed male homosexual couples. They found that none of the over 100 couple that had been together for more than 5 years had been sexually monogamous or exclusive.
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Many studies have shown that children of homosexual households are 2 to 4 times as likely to become homosexual themselves as compared to the general population.
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In a national health care survey 75% of the nearly 2000 lesbian respondents reported they had pursued psychological counselling of some kind, many for treatment of long-term depression or sadness.
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Homosexual men are 6 times more likely to have attempted suicide than are heterosexual men.
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Studies indicate that between 25 and 33% of homosexual men and women are alcoholics.
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Bell and Weinberg reported evidence of widespread sexual compulsion among homosexual men. 83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners.
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90% of lesbians surveyed had been recipients of one of more acts of verbal aggression from their partners during the year prior to the study, and 31% reported experiencing physical abuse
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in another reference we see that “the incidence of domestic violence among gay men is nearly double that in the heterosexual population.
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Lesbians are 3 times more likely to abuse alcohol and to suffer from other compulsive behaviours.
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The life expectancy for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for men in general.
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A disproportionate percentage — 29 percent — of the adult children of homosexual parents had been specifically subjected to sexual molestation by that homosexual parent, compared to only 0.6 percent of adult children of heterosexual parents having reported sexual relations with their parent. … Having a homosexual parent(s) appears to increase the risk of incest with a parent by a factor of about 50.




Scientific studies show there is a correlation between homosexuality and personal distress.

It is comforting to share a common understanding with most of the people in society about what is good and bad behaviour, healthy and unhealthy patterns of living. However, we are heading into a time where more and more people disagree on what is a healthy person. An increasing number of the people and institutions around us have very different understandings about good & bad behaviour and healthy & unhealthy living.




http://www.exodusglobalalliance.org/ishomosexualityhealthyp60.php


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Re: Does Science Show Homosexuality is Healthy?
Reply #1 - Dec 16th, 2012 at 1:44pm
 
Saying that homosexuals are unhappy or unhealthy, does not in any way prove that is due to their homosexuality.
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Reply #2 - Dec 16th, 2012 at 1:58pm
 
And a study carried out in 1978 is not really relevant these days...
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Re: Does Science Show Homosexuality is Healthy?
Reply #3 - Dec 20th, 2012 at 10:45am
 
bobbythefap1 wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 1:44pm:
Saying that homosexuals are unhappy or unhealthy, does not in any way prove that is due to their homosexuality.

If not due to, it may be, in substantial part, in consequence of.

In their paper "The Stigmatization of the  Gay and Lesbian Adolescent" published in "Journal of Homosexuality" in 1988, Martin and Hetrick wrote:

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Although medically based diagnosis and  treatment is the traditional approach to the problems of homosexually oriented adolescents, the cognitive dissonance that characterizes so much of their emotional and psychological state arises from their membership in a hated and despised minority group - that is, from "the painful experience of being different".

Openly expressed gay and lesbian identities are more socially accepted now than they were 30 years ago, so, while still a minority, gays and lesbians are less hated and despised today than they were when Bell & Weinberg conducted their research. I agree with gizmo that those findings are unlikely to be relevant to the situation today.

Do we have any current research on the subject?
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Reply #4 - Dec 20th, 2012 at 10:50am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 1:58pm:
And a study carried out in 1978 is not really relevant these days...


maybe, maybe not.  but here's a new one:

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A NEW study by the University of Melbourne,Turning Point Alcohol and Drug Centre and Monash University is looking at the correlation between excessive drinking, recreational drug use and depression among lesbian women 18 years and over.


Associate Professor Ruth McNair, part of the research team,told news.com.au that women of all ages who identify within this group are two to three times more likely to experience depression and anxiety.




http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health-fitness/study-finds-lesbian-women-more-l...
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Reply #5 - Dec 25th, 2012 at 7:41pm
 
Does the study include "non-practicing" homosexuals?

There are a number of these on this board, and they don’t seem at all happy to me. They’re outrageous flirts.

I suppose they could all be modified to become decent normal people like Yadda, but would that make them any happier?
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Reply #6 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 4:25am
 
... wrote on Dec 20th, 2012 at 10:50am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 16th, 2012 at 1:58pm:
And a study carried out in 1978 is not really relevant these days...


maybe, maybe not.  but here's a new one:

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A NEW study by the University of Melbourne,Turning Point Alcohol and Drug Centre and Monash University is looking at the correlation between excessive drinking, recreational drug use and depression among lesbian women 18 years and over.


Associate Professor Ruth McNair, part of the research team,told news.com.au that women of all ages who identify within this group are two to three times more likely to experience depression and anxiety.




http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health-fitness/study-finds-lesbian-women-more-l...


Does the study mention the cause of the depression being that they are treated badly being in a minority group?

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Re: Does Science Show Homosexuality is Healthy?
Reply #7 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 9:34am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 4:25am:
Does the study mention the cause of the depression being that they are treated badly being in a minority group?



No.  Why would it? 

Isn't it funny how everyone suddenly becomes so discerning, and desperately clamber for excuses when their conditioning is challenged?
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Reply #8 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 12:46pm
 
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Does the study mention the cause of the depression being that they are treated badly being in a minority group?

According to the report, it is important how lesbian women are treated during an important period:

"We know that that the on average most the gap between realising your sexuality and coming out to friends and family is between five and seven years. How members of this community are treated by their families during this time has a big impact on their wellbeing through life," Dr McNair said.

She described this period as a high risk time. If not properly managed and supported, t is common for high incidences of alcohol consumption and mental health issues to start at this point.


Sounds to me as though the answer to Spot of Borg's question is "yes".
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Reply #9 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 1:06pm
 
... wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 9:34am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 4:25am:
Does the study mention the cause of the depression being that they are treated badly being in a minority group?



No.  Why would it? 

Isn't it funny how everyone suddenly becomes so discerning, and desperately clamber for excuses when their conditioning is challenged?



Yeah you dont like it do you . . . .

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Does the study mention the cause of the depression being that they are treated badly being in a minority group?

According to the report, it is important how lesbian women are treated during an important period:

"We know that that the on average most the gap between realising your sexuality and coming out to friends and family is between five and seven years. How members of this community are treated by their families during this time has a big impact on their wellbeing through life," Dr McNair said.

She described this period as a high risk time. If not properly managed and supported, t is common for high incidences of alcohol consumption and mental health issues to start at this point.


Sounds to me as though the answer to Spot of Borg's question is "yes".


TBH I haven't read the study, but if it is saying anything about the cause of issues, it's working beyond its scope.  It's just a statistic.
Whaddaya reckon the cause of this statistic is?

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HIV transmission: HIV continues to be transmitted primarily among men who have sex with men. Of all HIV diagnoses made between 2007 and 2011:

    66% of transmissions occurred among men who have sex with men


http://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia

 
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Reply #11 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 4:01pm
 
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HIV transmission: HIV continues to be transmitted primarily among men who have sex with men. Of all HIV diagnoses made between 2007 and 2011:

    66% of transmissions occurred among men who have sex with men



How disgusting & revolting.
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Reply #12 - Dec 26th, 2012 at 4:55pm
 
i would say it must be slightly depressing and painful.  trying to give birth to a baby out your dick must hurt like hell

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Reply #13 - Dec 29th, 2012 at 11:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Dec 26th, 2012 at 4:01pm:
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HIV transmission: HIV continues to be transmitted primarily among men who have sex with men. Of all HIV diagnoses made between 2007 and 2011:

    66% of transmissions occurred among men who have sex with men



How disgusting & revolting.


It’s obscene, Mrs Haversham. I hear some of them carry their meat around in a little purse on a string.
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Reply #14 - Dec 30th, 2012 at 5:35am
 
So now - because the intolerant ppl cant get rid of gays with their religion - they try to do it on health grounds (for your own good). Hint: its not going to work.

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