gandalf wrote:
Quote:Probably not. Hence the whole (new) concept of marriage being about mutual support and love introduced by Muhammad and the quran.
Well I agree it certainly was a
new and unusual concept of love
Tabari IX:113 “
Allah permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain, they have the right to food and clothing. Treat women well
for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.”
qur'an4.34 : Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard.
As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, lastly beat them ; but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)[/
Tabari I:280 “Allah said, ‘It is My obligation to make Eve bleed once every month as she made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her intelligent.’
Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid.” Qur’an 4:11 “Allah directs you in regard of your Children’s (inheritance):
to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah.”
Bukhari:V1B22N28 “The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the
majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.’ When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.’”
Muslim:B1N142 “‘O womenfolk, you should ask for forgiveness for
I saw you in bulk amongst the dwellers of Hell.’ A wise lady said: Why is it, Allah’s Apostle, that women comprise the bulk of the inhabitants of Hell? The Prophet observed: ‘You curse too much and are ungrateful to your spouses.
You lack common sense, fail in religion and rob the wisdom of the wise.’ Upon this the woman remarked: What is wrong with our common sense? The Prophet replied, ‘Your lack of common sense can be determined from the fact that
the evidence of two women is equal to one man. That is a proof.’”
Qur’an 4:43 “Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature,
or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.”
Bukhari:V4B55N547 “The Prophet said, ‘But for the Israelis, meat would not decay, and
if it were not for Eve, wives would never betray their husbands.’”
Qur’an 4:15 “If any of your women are guilty of lewdness, take the evidence of four witnesses from amongst you against them; if they testify,
confine them to houses until death [by starvation] claims them.”
Bukhari:V3B48N826 “The Prophet said, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?’ The women said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘This is
because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.’”
Ishaq:584 “Tell the men with you who have wives: [/b]never trust a woman[/b].”
Ishaq:185 “
In hell I saw women hanging by their breasts. They had fathered bastards.”
Qur’an 24:33 “Force not your slave-girls to whoredom (prostitution) if they desire chastity, that you may seek enjoyment of this life.
But if anyone forces them, then after such compulsion, Allah is oft-forgiving.”
Ishaq:469 “The Apostle said, ‘
Every wailing woman lies except those who wept for Sa’d.’”
Ishaq:496 “Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.’ So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and
gave her a violent beating first, saying, ‘Tell the Apostle the truth.’”
Qur’an 24:6 “And for those who launch a charge against their wives, accusing them, but have no witnesses or evidence, except themselves;
let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies, (swearing four times) by Allah that he is the one speaking the truth.”
Tell women: they are stupid, they are liars, cannot be trusted, are the majority of people in hell, their testimony is worth less than a man, beat them etc. etc. certainly was an innovative approach to love and support.
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