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Reply #75 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 12:52pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 12:48pm:

muso wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

There are two "dogs" in that race. If it were Rudd and Turnbull, it would be a far more effective "hung parliament"Either way, I hope that the next election result is hung until we see some real leadership from one side or the other.

What? Rudd and Turnbull? you go and wash your mouth out with soap ,sonny, the extreme congo line known as the far right will never allow the people of this country to choose between the two candidates they want. How dare you even suggest a couple of moderates face off.

Switched allegiances from Gillard to Rudd eh? Grin

You're flogging a dead horse, none of them have the moral will to Govern, far too much corruption and shame on them I am afraid. Cool

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Reply #76 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 12:52pm

Gillard will not win the election unless she brings her party into line.

Leaks like "she penned her speech two weeks ago", just show a party lacking strong leadership.

She needs to hang a few out to dry.

Cant see it happening though, she doesnt have the support, but its time to put these rabble rousers down.

While Abbott is opposition leader, the only thing stopping the labor party from a 3rd term is itself. And its doing a fine job of stopping it so far.

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Reply #77 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:14pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 12:52pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 12:48pm:

muso wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

There are two "dogs" in that race. If it were Rudd and Turnbull, it would be a far more effective "hung parliament"Either way, I hope that the next election result is hung until we see some real leadership from one side or the other.

What? Rudd and Turnbull? you go and wash your mouth out with soap ,sonny, the extreme congo line known as the far right will never allow the people of this country to choose between the two candidates they want. How dare you even suggest a couple of moderates face off.

Switched allegiances from Gillard to Rudd eh? Grin

You're flogging a dead horse, none of them have the moral will to Govern, far too much corruption and shame on them I am afraid. Cool

Nup, I dont like Rudd, but I'm a realist I can see the writing on the wall. If I had my way Rudd would face off against Turnbull and if that were the case I'd preference Turnbull over Rudd. Unlike the congo line of Lib suckholes here, I am not a party partisan hack for either major party. I support the GREENS. Tongue

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Reply #78 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:14pm

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

Kevin Rudd Dudd is a gonner due to the Heiner affair

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=11586

Sounds like the shredding was not very thorough.....Kevin Rudd could not even get that right???

Once the public gets to view these documents and if thoroughly true, then I would not want Rudd or anyone involved with the deception and coverup to be involved in politics anymore, let alone PM.

2GutterBroadcasting? A highly credible and respected source that one! Next you'll be trying to point us to that weighty and enormously well informed blog that TheLiar failed to link to yesterday. You guys are a laugh a minute, that's for sure. Cheesy

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Reply #79 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:22pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 12:52pm:

Gillard will not win the election unless she brings her party into line.

Leaks like "she penned her speech two weeks ago", just show a party lacking strong leadership.

She needs to hang a few out to dry.

Cant see it happening though, she doesnt have the support, but its time to put these rabble rousers down.

While Abbott is opposition leader, the only thing stopping the labor party from a 3rd term is itself. And its doing a fine job of stopping it so far.

Funnily enough, Richo said (I think on Qanda?) late last year that she wasn't doing too badly in the leakage department when compared to previous governments on both sides.

I sense Gillard has come out this year armed with spit and bile and is ready to kick some nuts. I hope so! I've got some popcorn and some beer laid in, ready for the day!! Grin

Frankly I think she's deserved a better run than she's had. Ultimately though it's up to her to make the best out of what she's got.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Newspoll - Tony Abbott back in front as PPM. Reply #80 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:25pm Frankly I think she's deserved a better run than she's had. Ultimately though it's up to her to make the best out of what she's got. I agree with that, but the sexist assholes that run the right wing media in this country were always going to do a job on her for their "boy",phony tony.
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: Newspoll - Tony Abbott back in front as PPM. Reply #81 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:05pm The double standards from the lefties on here beggar belief. What's good for the left (eg, Gilard) is not okay for the right (eg, Abbott).
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Reply #82 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:11pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Frankly I think she's deserved a better run than she's had. Ultimately though it's up to her to make the best out of what she's got.

I agree with that, but the sexist assholes that run the right wing media in this country were always going to do a job on her for their "boy",phony tony.

Frankly, I don't think that Gillard, Rudd, Abbott, Turnbull OR 99.9% of the other Pollies are up to the job!

Which is why it now boils down to picking the best options, out of some lousy choices!

And, we now really have an outstanding bunch to pick from, as far as really poor choices are concerned!

Maybe the best way, as has been put before, is to pick someone not yet in parliament, who has yet been indoctrinated?

But we all know that's not how the "system" works!

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Newspoll - Tony Abbott back in front as PPM. Reply #83 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:13pm matty wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:05pm: The double standards from the lefties on here beggar belief. What's good for the left (eg, Gilard) is not okay for the right (eg, Abbott). I agree & vice versa!
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Reply #84 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:33pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Frankly I think she's deserved a better run than she's had. Ultimately though it's up to her to make the best out of what she's got.

I agree with that, but the sexist assholes that run the right wing media in this country were always going to do a job on her for their "boy",phony tony.

Those sexist assholes are yet to make a sexist comment skip.
And as for 'doing a job on her for their boy' couldn't be further from the truth.
Hadley totally savaged the Liberal NSW Premier only just this morning on 2GB, and Alan Jones is still going hypo over CSG after all these weeks, and his 110% support for the farmers and the Greens on this issue.
These guys play the issue, not which side of politics they belong.
It's hardly their fault Gillard is incompetent, and them pretending she is otherwise wouldn't do anyone any favours Skip.

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Reply #85 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:41pm

skippy. wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Frankly I think she's deserved a better run than she's had. Ultimately though it's up to her to make the best out of what she's got.

I agree with that, but the sexist assholes that run the right wing media in this country were always going to do a job on her for their "boy",phony tony.

maybe if she stopped lying and did something competently, that would help. At the moment, the only thing she does well is renege on her promises.

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Reply #86 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:43pm

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Frankly I think she's deserved a better run than she's had. Ultimately though it's up to her to make the best out of what she's got.

I agree with that, but the sexist assholes that run the right wing media in this country were always going to do a job on her for their "boy",phony tony.

Frankly, I don't think that Gillard, Rudd, Abbott, Turnbull OR 99.9% of the other Pollies are up to the job!

Which is why it now boils down to picking the best options, out of some lousy choices!

And, we now really have an outstanding bunch to pick from, as far as really poor choices are concerned!

Maybe the best way, as has been put before, is to pick someone not yet in parliament, who has yet been indoctrinated?

But we all know that's not how the "system" works!

you've said that before and the obvious objection to it still applies. Under your system every MP would be an inexperienced newbie. if you think thats a good idea, then next time you want an electrician make sure you get an apprentice on his first week to rewire your house.

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Reply #87 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:44pm

Gist wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:14pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 10:52am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 10:40am:

progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

Kevin Rudd Dudd is a gonner due to the Heiner affair

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=11586

Sounds like the shredding was not very thorough.....Kevin Rudd could not even get that right???

Once the public gets to view these documents and if thoroughly true, then I would not want Rudd or anyone involved with the deception and coverup to be involved in politics anymore, let alone PM.

2GutterBroadcasting? A highly credible and respected source that one! Next you'll be trying to point us to that weighty and enormously well informed blog that TheLiar failed to link to yesterday. You guys are a laugh a minute, that's for sure. Cheesy

Funny though that you have got no substance for attacking the message lol. Nope just the messenger. Typical lefty.

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Reply #88 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:59pm

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:43pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 2:11pm:

skippy. wrote on Feb 14^th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Frankly I think she's deserved a better run than she's had. Ultimately though it's up to her to make the best out of what she's got.

I agree with that, but the sexist assholes that run the right wing media in this country were always going to do a job on her for their "boy",phony tony.

Frankly, I don't think that Gillard, Rudd, Abbott, Turnbull OR 99.9% of the other Pollies are up to the job!

Which is why it now boils down to picking the best options, out of some lousy choices!

And, we now really have an outstanding bunch to pick from, as far as really poor choices are concerned!

Maybe the best way, as has been put before, is to pick someone not yet in parliament, who has yet been indoctrinated?

But we all know that's not how the "system" works!

you've said that before and the obvious objection to it still applies. Under your system every MP would be an inexperienced newbie. if you think thats a good idea, then next time you want an electrician make sure you get an apprentice on his first week to rewire your house.

LW,
Do you know what generally happens when "our system" sends a small time criminal to jail?

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Newspoll - Tony Abbott back in front as PPM. Reply #89 - Feb 14^th, 2012 at 3:06pm It really doesnt matter who wins the next election, the modern Labor and Coalition parties have shown they have no desire to work together so the real power will be with the Greens in the Senate. Bring it on
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