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Reply #60 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:43am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:40am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:31am:
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progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:19am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:11am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:05am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 10:59am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 10:52am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 10:40am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 9:48am:
Kevin Rudd Dudd is a gonner due to the Heiner affair

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=11586


Sounds like the shredding was not very thorough.....Kevin Rudd could not even get that right???

Once the public gets to view these documents and if thoroughly true, then I would not want Rudd or anyone involved, in politics anymore let alone PM.


If something comes of it then so be it....I will not defend Kevin Rudd or anyone else over covering up rape.....However the feigned concern from Jones and Ackerman is sickening to say the least.....These wankers are after political damage to Kevin Rudd and the ALP and are using this woman to further their cause.....They defend priests who have been convicted of the same thing FFS.....These people are all worthless trash of the lowest order IMO....If this woman gets any justice it will be because of better men than Jones and Ackerman!!!

Well I don't see anyone else stepping up and making sure that labor can't bury it.



Then you did not listen to the audio very well did you.....Some bloke named Lindberg or something is pushing this issue.....Jones and Ackerman are just tools of the media trying to do political damage to the ALP and have nothing to do with trying to gain justice for anyone....Lindberg would push the issue without their help and has done so for 19 years...Jones and Ackerman are total flakes who have defended priests and others in the same situation.....they have no credibility IMO!!!

"Some bloke" yeh that'll do it lol. No, Jones will not allow for labor to bury this one, sorry, not.



You give Jones credit for Lindbergs work.....Jones said SFA until Lindberg provided the ammunition you dolt...Jones is an opportunistic tosser of the lowest order who did not care less about this woman until it became a problem for Kevin Rudd!!!

No I give Jones credit for being a bulldog and will not allow for the great work of Lendberg to go to waste and for the poor girl to suffer any longer from a labor party.

You dolt.


I hope she gets the justice she deserves.....But it will not come because of Alan Jones....Defending priests and Hollingworth shows Jones double standards and lack of concern for victims.....Your loyalty is as deluded as Jones false concern for victims of sexual assault!!!

It is not about loyalty, it is about a situation that has a bulldog on it. Too bad you have hangups. You should have done something about those other situations as you said "some bloke" can do it or were you not that concerned. Didn't think so.
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Reply #61 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:43am
 
Abbott needs good policies that will provide Australian's with a reason to vote for him.....Anyone that thinks polls this far out from an election without seeing Abbott's policies means anything is deluded to say the least!!!
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Reply #62 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:46am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:43am:
Abbott needs good policies that will provide Australian's with a reason to vote for him.....Anyone that thinks polls this far out from an election without seeing Abbott's policies means anything is deluded to say the least!!!

But if labor tell us their policies, can we believe them.  Not a chance. (There will be no carbon tax under a government labor leads). Can we believe labor will be competent regardless of policies. Not a chance.

Me think you are deluded.
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Reply #63 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:48am
 

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It is not about loyalty, it is about a situation that has a bulldog on it. Too bad you have hangups. You should have done something about those other situations as you said "some bloke" can do it or were you not that concerned. Didn't think so.


I have no idea what point you are trying to make.....This is not about me it is about people who feign concern for certain victims in the public domain to score political points.....Jones is no hero IMO!!!
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Reply #64 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:51am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:46am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:43am:
Abbott needs good policies that will provide Australian's with a reason to vote for him.....Anyone that thinks polls this far out from an election without seeing Abbott's policies means anything is deluded to say the least!!!

But if labor tell us their policies, can we believe them.  Not a chance. (There will be no carbon tax under a government labor leads). Can we believe labor will be competent regardless of policies. Not a chance.

Me think you are deluded.


No point trying to debate you mate when you cannot see the reality in the face of a hung parliament.....Julia Gillard is facing a backlash for her broken promise and rightly so....However my point still stands that Abbott must provide a solid policy platform before the next election to get elected....He will not be voted in if he does not provide policies people want will he???
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Reply #65 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:52am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:48am:
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It is not about loyalty, it is about a situation that has a bulldog on it. Too bad you have hangups. You should have done something about those other situations as you said "some bloke" can do it or were you not that concerned. Didn't think so.

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I have no idea what point you are trying to make.....This is not about me it is about people who feign concern for certain victims in the public domain to score political points.....Jones is no hero IMO!!!

Oh did you think Jones was a hero at one stage. Tell us about it.
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Reply #66 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:54am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:52am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:48am:
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It is not about loyalty, it is about a situation that has a bulldog on it. Too bad you have hangups. You should have done something about those other situations as you said "some bloke" can do it or were you not that concerned. Didn't think so.

The Dolt wrote
I have no idea what point you are trying to make.....This is not about me it is about people who feign concern for certain victims in the public domain to score political points.....Jones is no hero IMO!!!

Oh did you think Jones was a hero at one stage. Tell us about it.


I have no idea what you are talking about....Are you Alan Jones???
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Reply #67 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:56am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:40am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:31am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:29am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:19am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:11am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:05am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 10:59am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 10:52am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 10:40am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 9:48am:
Kevin Rudd Dudd is a gonner due to the Heiner affair

http://www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=11586


Sounds like the shredding was not very thorough.....Kevin Rudd could not even get that right???

Once the public gets to view these documents and if thoroughly true, then I would not want Rudd or anyone involved, in politics anymore let alone PM.


If something comes of it then so be it....I will not defend Kevin Rudd or anyone else over covering up rape.....However the feigned concern from Jones and Ackerman is sickening to say the least.....These wankers are after political damage to Kevin Rudd and the ALP and are using this woman to further their cause.....They defend priests who have been convicted of the same thing FFS.....These people are all worthless trash of the lowest order IMO....If this woman gets any justice it will be because of better men than Jones and Ackerman!!!

Well I don't see anyone else stepping up and making sure that labor can't bury it.



Then you did not listen to the audio very well did you.....Some bloke named Lindberg or something is pushing this issue.....Jones and Ackerman are just tools of the media trying to do political damage to the ALP and have nothing to do with trying to gain justice for anyone....Lindberg would push the issue without their help and has done so for 19 years...Jones and Ackerman are total flakes who have defended priests and others in the same situation.....they have no credibility IMO!!!

"Some bloke" yeh that'll do it lol. No, Jones will not allow for labor to bury this one, sorry, not.



You give Jones credit for Lindbergs work.....Jones said SFA until Lindberg provided the ammunition you dolt...Jones is an opportunistic tosser of the lowest order who did not care less about this woman until it became a problem for Kevin Rudd!!!

No I give Jones credit for being a bulldog and will not allow for the great work of Lendberg to go to waste and for the poor girl to suffer any longer from a labor party.

You dolt.


I hope she gets the justice she deserves.....But it will not come because of Alan Jones....Defending priests and Hollingworth shows Jones double standards and lack of concern for victims.....Your loyalty is as deluded as Jones false concern for victims of sexual assault!!!


yet you make the same mistake. you only seem to want justice for her in the context of justice for someone else. It's better tahn nothing, but it aint the moral high ground.
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Reply #68 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:04pm
 
And if someone like Abbott can get in front, it speaks more about Gillard than anyone else!!!!!
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Reply #69 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:08pm
 
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yet you make the same mistake. you only seem to want justice for her in the context of justice for someone else. It's better than nothing, but it ain't the moral high ground.


I fail to see any substance to that argument at all.....Lindberg provided members of the Senate with copies of the inquiry to try and provoke some form of justice for the victim and I hope he is successful.....I have not defended anyone who has covered up sexual assault that would be Jones and Ackerman....I have put no conditions on justice for anyone so I fail to see what you are trying to say???
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Reply #70 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:32pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:51am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:46am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:43am:
Abbott needs good policies that will provide Australian's with a reason to vote for him.....Anyone that thinks polls this far out from an election without seeing Abbott's policies means anything is deluded to say the least!!!

But if labor tell us their policies, can we believe them.  Not a chance. (There will be no carbon tax under a government labor leads). Can we believe labor will be competent regardless of policies. Not a chance.

Me think you are deluded.


No point trying to debate you mate when you cannot see the reality in the face of a hung parliament.....Julia Gillard is facing a backlash for her broken promise and rightly so....However my point still stands that Abbott must provide a solid policy platform before the next election to get elected....He will not be voted in if he does not provide policies people want will he???


the reality of the next election is that abbott will win because he is not Gillard or Labor. That is pretty much all he needs. Some good policies will help the margin but the actual result is beyond dispute.
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Reply #71 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:33pm
 
It doesn't matter who is PM out of the political class preferred PM's, they are all weak lame ducks who have lost the stones for a fight. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #72 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:35pm
 
Where is the resolve, where is the iron will, where is the leadership, where is the conviction to take the tough decisions to get things done- p!ssweak, they make me sick... Cool Grin Grin Cool
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Reply #73 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:37pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:32pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:51am:
progressiveslol wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:46am:
philperth2010 wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:43am:
Abbott needs good policies that will provide Australian's with a reason to vote for him.....Anyone that thinks polls this far out from an election without seeing Abbott's policies means anything is deluded to say the least!!!

But if labor tell us their policies, can we believe them.  Not a chance. (There will be no carbon tax under a government labor leads). Can we believe labor will be competent regardless of policies. Not a chance.

Me think you are deluded.


No point trying to debate you mate when you cannot see the reality in the face of a hung parliament.....Julia Gillard is facing a backlash for her broken promise and rightly so....However my point still stands that Abbott must provide a solid policy platform before the next election to get elected....He will not be voted in if he does not provide policies people want will he???


the reality of the next election is that abbott will win because he is not Gillard or Labor. That is pretty much all he needs. Some good policies will help the margin but the actual result is beyond dispute.


Yet in the past we have seen polls swing and elections lost on the price of a birthday cake or the arrival of the Tampa or the prospect of Work Choices.....Saying policies do not matter just shows how little you know about the voting public.....Politicians who take the public for fools will suffer at the election booth.....Policies matter!!!
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Reply #74 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:48pm
 
muso wrote on Feb 14th, 2012 at 11:35am:
There are two "dogs" in that race. If it were Rudd and Turnbull, it would be a far more effective "hung parliament"Either way, I hope that the next election result is hung until we see some real leadership from one side or the other.

What? Rudd and Turnbull? you go and wash your mouth out with soap ,sonny, the extreme congo line known as the far right will never allow the people of this country to choose between the two candidates they want. How dare you even suggest a couple of moderates face off.
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