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olde.sault Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2913	One of the three of the piracy act Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:34am arrested by police as he disembarked. Apparently one had not payed $5000 in fines and, without being aware of this fact, that's what I called them "criminals". A truck with 6 kids at the back, cheered this example of Australian heroes.
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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #1 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:45am

olde.sault wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:34am:

arrested by police as he disembarked.

Apparently one had not payed $5000 in fines and, without being aware of this fact, that's what I called them "criminals".

A truck with 6 kids at the back, cheered this example of Australian heroes.

we have got to be desperate for HEROs in this country

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #3 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

The idiot on the radio this morning stated he was not sorry, and would do it again if he could.
This is what happens when consequences to not match the actions.

shouldnt they get sent the bill for picking them up???????????.. or are we going to pay the airfares for the Bali 9 when they get released????

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #4 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 7:11am

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

The idiot on the radio this morning stated he was not sorry, and would do it again if he could.
This is what happens when consequences to not match the actions.

shouldnt they get sent the bill for picking them up???????????.. or are we going to pay the airfares for the Bali 9 when they get released????

No.

If ANYONE gets a 'bill', it should be the Japanese government.

No-one else.

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #5 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:05am

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

The idiot on the radio this morning stated he was not sorry, and would do it again if he could.
This is what happens when consequences to not match the actions.

shouldnt they get sent the bill for picking them up???????????.. or are we going to pay the airfares for the Bali 9 when they get released????

No.

If ANYONE gets a 'bill', it should be the Japanese government.

No-one else.

What a pro-crime remark!

With voters like you, no wonder the country is going to the dogs!

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #6 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:11am

olde.sault wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:34am:

arrested by police as he disembarked.

Apparently one had not payed $5000 in fines and, without being aware of this fact, that's what I called them "criminals".

If these three want to defend the indefensible, how about looking around at local cruelty such as shoving pets out of vehicles, pets that slowly starve or get run over by traffic?

What about rescuing bears in China that sit their lives in a small cage and have bits of them cut off?

A truck with 6 kids at the back, cheered this example of Australian heroes.

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #7 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:22am

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

The idiot on the radio this morning stated he was not sorry, and would do it again if he could.
This is what happens when consequences to not match the actions.

shouldnt they get sent the bill for picking them up???????????.. or are we going to pay the airfares for the Bali 9 when they get released????

No.

If ANYONE gets a 'bill', it should be the Japanese government.

No-one else.

Unfortunately the Japanese government did not transport these people to sea, nor did they provide the equipment to illegally board the Japanese vessel.
And certainly the Japanese did not ask to be illegally boarded at sea.
The Sea Shepherd group did that.

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #8 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:31am

olde.sault wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

The idiot on the radio this morning stated he was not sorry, and would do it again if he could.
This is what happens when consequences to not match the actions.

shouldnt they get sent the bill for picking them up???????????.. or are we going to pay the airfares for the Bali 9 when they get released????

No.

If ANYONE gets a 'bill', it should be the Japanese government.

No-one else.

What a pro-crime remark!

With voters like you, no wonder the country is going to the dogs!

Pot/Kettle....

As I have stated repeatedly, I support the aims
of these people, but not their methods.

However, legal is NOT always right, and right
is certainly not always legal.

If the Japanese weren't doing the wrong thing, none of
this would even be necessary, it is THEIR responsibility.

Don't try to read a pro-crime agenda that
doesn't exist into my comments.

And please don't try to assume how I vote.

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #9 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:48am

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

olde.sault wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

The idiot on the radio this morning stated he was not sorry, and would do it again if he could.
This is what happens when consequences to not match the actions.

shouldnt they get sent the bill for picking them up???????????.. or are we going to pay the airfares for the Bali 9 when they get released????

No.

If ANYONE gets a 'bill', it should be the Japanese government.

No-one else.

What a pro-crime remark!

With voters like you, no wonder the country is going to the dogs!

Pot/Kettle....

As I have stated repeatedly, I support the aims
of these people, but not their methods.

However, legal is NOT always right, and right
is certainly not always legal.

If the Japanese weren't doing the wrong thing, none of
this would even be necessary, it is THEIR responsibility.

Don't try to read a pro-crime agenda that
doesn't exist into my comments.

And please don't try to assume how I vote.

A Japanese cargo ship at sea minding it's own business IS doing the right thing.
That cargo ship is not a whaler and has no harpoon guns, yet it was boarded.
And 'doing the wrong thing' is a subjective remark only and is purely in the eye of the beholder.
That's why we have laws in the first place.

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #10 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:49am

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

olde.sault wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

The idiot on the radio this morning stated he was not sorry, and would do it again if he could.
This is what happens when consequences to not match the actions.

shouldnt they get sent the bill for picking them up???????????.. or are we going to pay the airfares for the Bali 9 when they get released????

No.

If ANYONE gets a 'bill', it should be the Japanese government.

No-one else.

What a pro-crime remark!

With voters like you, no wonder the country is going to the dogs!

Pot/Kettle....

As I have stated repeatedly, I support the aims
of these people, but not their methods.

However, legal is NOT always right, and right
is certainly not always legal.

If the Japanese weren't doing the wrong thing, none of
this would even be necessary, it is THEIR responsibility.

Don't try to read a pro-crime agenda that
doesn't exist into my comments.

And please don't try to assume how I vote.

so two wrongs make a right then according to that logic..

boarding another ship is piracy... someone boarded a ship and BORROWED a bag of ice...from a friend.... he was charged with stealing... he had no right to board his boat anymore than he has a right to enter his house.

its that simple..we have embassies in foreign countries.. they fly their own countries flag and come under their own countries laws..

no one has the right to walk in and thrown acid on the floors.. or leave protest notes..

its just not on... let them go to Japan and attack the govt...and see what happens. they wouldnt dare.

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #11 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 1:24pm

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

olde.sault wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 8:05am:

Kat wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

cods wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 6:53am:

The idiot on the radio this morning stated he was not sorry, and would do it again if he could.
This is what happens when consequences to not match the actions.

shouldnt they get sent the bill for picking them up???????????.. or are we going to pay the airfares for the Bali 9 when they get released????

No.

If ANYONE gets a 'bill', it should be the Japanese government.

No-one else.

What a pro-crime remark!

With voters like you, no wonder the country is going to the dogs!

Pot/Kettle....

As I have stated repeatedly, I support the aims
of these people, but not their methods.

However, legal is NOT always right, and right
is certainly not always legal.

If the Japanese weren't doing the wrong thing, none of
this would even be necessary, it is THEIR responsibility.

Don't try to read a pro-crime agenda that
doesn't exist into my comments.

And please don't try to assume how I vote.

The section I highlighted shows how ridiculous your argument is. Whether or not the Japanese are in the wrong is not the point. Two wrongs don't make it right, anyway! We can't have idiotic vigilantes running around acting like the Navy or Police, performing illegal boardings of vessels that they neither have the authority nor the training to safely and legally carry out. They should be billed by the Australian Government and their assets sold to recover the costs of this operation if they are unable to pay.

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #12 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 1:30pm

They all should be charged with piracy.
The Japs should have been encouraged by the government to take them back to Japan & try them their under their system & serve any sentence within a Japanese prison.
They boarded a foreign vessel in international waters, the Japs should really have shot them on sight after all isn't that what we do to Somalis?
And they are fighting for their livelihood, whilst I don't agree with whaling, piracy is not the way it will be stopped

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #13 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 1:40pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 1:30pm:

They all should be charged with piracy.
The Japs should have been encouraged by the government to take them back to Japan & try them their under their system & serve any sentence within a Japanese prison.
They boarded a foreign vessel in international waters, the Japs should really have shot them on sight after all isn't that what we do to Somalis?
And they are fighting for their livelihood, whilst I don't agree with whaling, piracy is not the way it will be stopped

AS a matter of interest when did we shoot a Somali Wink

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Re: One of the three of the piracy act
Reply #14 - Jan 17^th, 2012 at 1:47pm

FRED. wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Jan 17^th, 2012 at 1:30pm:

They all should be charged with piracy.
The Japs should have been encouraged by the government to take them back to Japan & try them their under their system & serve any sentence within a Japanese prison.
They boarded a foreign vessel in international waters, the Japs should really have shot them on sight after all isn't that what we do to Somalis?
And they are fighting for their livelihood, whilst I don't agree with whaling, piracy is not the way it will be stopped

AS a matter of interest when did we shoot a Somali Wink

The Navy will, if they approach a tanker or any other ships within the red area.

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