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Australians fed up with paying for illegals
Nov 21st, 2011 at 8:18am
 
Taxpayers wear burden of 60,000 illegal immigrants

November 21, 2011

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The biggest groups of illegals are Chinese, Americans, Malaysians, Britons and South Koreans, documents reveal
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AUSTRALIA has enough illegal immigrants on the loose to populate a large regional city.

A Herald Sun investigation has found that nearly 60,000 people - one in every 390 - is in the country unlawfully, sparking renewed calls for a crackdown.


The 58,400 foreign citizens hiding illegally among us easily outnumber the populations of Mildura or Shepparton - Victoria's fifth and sixth biggest cities.

And they dwarf the 4700 legitimate asylum seekers who arrived by boat in 2010-11.


Documents released to the Herald Sun under Freedom of Information also reveal
the biggest groups of illegals are Chinese, Americans, Malaysians, Britons and South Koreans.


More than half have been here for five or more years; 20,000 for a decade or more; and two in three have evaded authorities for more than two years. (The figures do not include visitors who overstay visas by less than a fortnight.)


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/taxpayers-wear-burden-of-60000-illega...




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Re: Australians fed up with paying for illegals
Reply #1 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 8:28am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 8:18am:
Taxpayers wear burden of 60,000 illegal immigrants

November 21, 2011

http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/01/06/1225982/954114-immigration.jpg

The biggest groups of illegals are Chinese, Americans, Malaysians, Britons and South Koreans, documents reveal
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AUSTRALIA has enough illegal immigrants on the loose to populate a large regional city.

A Herald Sun investigation has found that nearly 60,000 people - one in every 390 - is in the country unlawfully, sparking renewed calls for a crackdown.


The 58,400 foreign citizens hiding illegally among us easily outnumber the populations of Mildura or Shepparton - Victoria's fifth and sixth biggest cities.

And they dwarf the 4700 legitimate asylum seekers who arrived by boat in 2010-11.


Documents released to the Herald Sun under Freedom of Information also reveal
the biggest groups of illegals are Chinese, Americans, Malaysians, Britons and South Koreans.


More than half have been here for five or more years; 20,000 for a decade or more; and two in three have evaded authorities for more than two years. (The figures do not include visitors who overstay visas by less than a fortnight.)


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/taxpayers-wear-burden-of-60000-illega...





More than half have been here for five or more years; 20,000 for a decade or more; and two in three have evaded authorities for more than two years. (The figures do not include visitors who overstay visas by less than a fortnight.)

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Illegal immigrants have also been involved in drug cartels, sexual slavery, and fraud. Illegals accused of guarding marijuana crops in Melbourne and regional Victoria were among 43 people arrested last year in raids focusing on a $400 million crime syndicate.

A charter flight to deport 76 illegal aliens from Malaysia and Indonesia, busted picking fruit in Mooroopna last year, cost taxpayers $100,000

Australian Human Rights Commission president Catherine Branson, QC, said it was important to remember many more overstayed visas, or arrived by plane and sought asylum, than arrived by boat.

"Another misconception is that people who arrive by boat are illegal immigrants. Australia is obliged to assess asylum seekers' claims."


There were 10,600 more illegals at June 30 last year than in 2005.



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Reply #3 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:20am
 
Hey crayons, why wouldn't they be here illegally? Illegals have 5 levels of appeal if they face deportation. That's more appeal levels than an Australian worker seeking workers' compensation.

Australia, you're standing in it.
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Reply #4 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:21am
 
Where do they COME from - and in what numbers ?



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China 7.490
USA 5,010
United Kingdom 3,470





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buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:07am:
"Another misconception is that people who arrive by boat are illegal immigrants. Australia is obliged to assess asylum seekers' claims."



It is not illegal to seek asylum. It is illegal to arrive in Australia without a visa (Australian Constitution gives our government the power to insist on a visa)
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Reply #6 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:33am
 
salad in wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:24am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:07am:
"Another misconception is that people who arrive by boat are illegal immigrants. Australia is obliged to assess asylum seekers' claims."



It is not illegal to seek asylum. It is illegal to arrive in Australia without a visa (Australian Constitution gives our government the power to insist on a visa)



What section does it says in the Constitution that the Government insist on a visa.

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/general/constitution/index.htm
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Reply #7 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:42am
 
bomen_guy wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:33am:
salad in wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:24am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:07am:
"Another misconception is that people who arrive by boat are illegal immigrants. Australia is obliged to assess asylum seekers' claims."



It is not illegal to seek asylum. It is illegal to arrive in Australia without a visa (Australian Constitution gives our government the power to insist on a visa)



What section does it says in the Constitution that the Government insist on a visa.

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/general/constitution/index.htm


the LAW requires them to have a visa. that means they ARE illegal immigrants otherwise the term has no meaning. They arerive without permission and in defiance of our laws. how on earth does that NOT make them illegal???

You can argue the other aspects if you wish but crayon-boy cant pretend they are NOT illegals.
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AUSTRALIA has enough illegal immigrants on the loose to populate a large regional city.   Shocked

A Herald Sun investigation has found that nearly 60,000 people - one in every 390 - is in the country unlawfully, sparking renewed calls for a crackdown.

The 58,400 foreign citizens hiding illegally among us easily outnumber the populations of Mildura or Shepparton - Victoria's fifth and sixth biggest cities.   Sad

And they dwarf the 4700 asylum seekers who arrived by boat in 2010-11.

Documents released to the Herald Sun under Freedom of Information also reveal the biggest groups of illegals are Chinese, Americans, Malaysians, Britons and South Koreans.

More than half have been here for five or more years; 20,000 for a decade or more; and two in three have evaded authorities for more than two years. (The figures do not include visitors who overstay visas by less than a fortnight.)   Sad


Ethnic Communities Council of Victoria chairman Sam Afra said illegal residents attracted little of the outrage associated with boat people, despite taking jobs and housing, using public services, and not paying tax.

He said it was far too easy to stay here if you knew how to "work the system".

"It's shocking," he said.

"To have one in three who have been here more than 10 years (suggests) something's wrong with the system."   Angry

"Nobody's talking about it. It is a problem, and the question is, don't you think the damage justifies putting more resources in (to find them)?"

He said the involvement of illegals in criminal and other dubious activities also sullied the reputations of legal migrants.

Jailed terrorist cell leader Abdul Benbrika lived illegally for years after arriving on a visitor's visa in 1989. Three months after marrying in 1992, while still an illegal, he successfully applied to stay, living on welfare with his wife and seven children until his arrest in 2005.

Illegal immigrants have also been involved in drug cartels, sexual slavery, and fraud. Illegals accused of guarding marijuana crops in Melbourne and regional Victoria were among 43 people arrested last year in raids focusing on a $400 million crime syndicate.   Shocked

A charter flight to deport 76 illegal aliens from Malaysia and Indonesia, busted picking fruit in Mooroopna last year, cost taxpayers $100,000.

Australian Human Rights Commission president Catherine Branson, QC, said it was important to remember many more overstayed visas, or arrived by plane and sought asylum, than arrived by boat.

"Another misconception is that people who arrive by boat are illegal immigrants. Australia is obliged to assess asylum seekers' claims."

There were 10,600 more illegals at June 30 last year than in 2005.  Sad
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Reply #9 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 6:11am
 
And never mind the fact that asylum seekers arriving by boat do so very visibly, do not attempt to evade authorities and declare their reason for arrival immediately.

All the more reason to presume that those arriving by boat are many times more likely to be genuine asylum seekers fleeing persecution than those who arrive on a plane with a visa before disappearing into the community.
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<<A Herald Sun investigation has found that nearly 60,000 people - one in every 390 - is in the country unlawfully>>
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WOW!!! I'm impressed. That's very good investigative journalism by The Herald Sun.

They have come far, so it could be time to quit getting their stories off facebook and twitter.

I wonder why Australians don't complain about a white invasion.

The detention centres should be full of Brits and Americans among others.

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Reply #11 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:24am
 
So what, process them, and either send them back or keep them here.

I find the who illegals and boat people issue so boring.
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How do they avoid paying tax?
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longweekend58 wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:42am:
bomen_guy wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:33am:
salad in wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:24am:
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 9:07am:
"Another misconception is that people who arrive by boat are illegal immigrants. Australia is obliged to assess asylum seekers' claims."



It is not illegal to seek asylum. It is illegal to arrive in Australia without a visa (Australian Constitution gives our government the power to insist on a visa)



What section does it says in the Constitution that the Government insist on a visa.

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/general/constitution/index.htm


the LAW requires them to have a visa. that means they ARE illegal immigrants otherwise the term has no meaning. They arerive without permission and in defiance of our laws. how on earth does that NOT make them illegal???

You can argue the other aspects if you wish but crayon-boy cant pretend they are NOT illegals.


I didn't say it was against the LAW all I said is what section of the Constitution does it says that you need a visa to get into Australia. Anyway once they seek aslyum they are not illegals immigrants. Get it thru your thick bloody head that the only illegals immigrants are people that over stay their visa.

Boofhead said that it is in the Constitution so can you point me to the section it is in O GREAT ONE.

You seem to know every bloody thing else
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Reply #14 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 10:12am
 
Immigration, illegal aliens and  refugees is NOT a "political issue" ?


... but the sale price of electricity by private companies IS ?



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