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Re: The Republic Of Australia
Reply #105 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 10:52am

Matt - one thing I like about the Queen is that you can't bribe her.
She is one of the richest women in the world.
As for any political character in Australia -
I wouldn't trust any of them.
Who would vote for them?
Would it be the people or a trade union boss or a rich
multi-national company that decided?

Look at other countries with Presidents.
Look at what happened in the Philippines with the Marcos family.
Is that we want here?

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Reply #106 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 10:54am

Del_has_returned wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 10:15am:

"Cringing cultural infantilism" (flavour of the month)

Ah, the vague expression used (or should I say over-used) by helian because of his lack of reasoned argument.

Yours is the core of cultural infantilsm... The belief that the nation needs a foreign cultural (cum parental) icon to validate its international identity, without which we are collectively incapable of appropriately voiced expression.

As in :

Quote:

The Queen brings a lot of global status to this country without which Australia really wouldn't make much of an impression on the world stage.

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Reply #107 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:32am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 10:54am:

Del_has_returned wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 10:15am:

"Cringing cultural infantilism" (flavour of the month)

Ah, the vague expression used (or should I say over-used) by helian because of his lack of reasoned argument.

Yours is the core of cultural infantilsm... The belief that the nation needs a foreign cultural (cum parental) icon to validate its international identity, without which we are collectively incapable of appropriately voiced expression.

As in :

Quote:

The Queen brings a lot of global status to this country without which Australia really wouldn't make much of an impression on the world stage.

Yes but you've not said I'm wrong, you've merely used your overworked expression yet again.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: The Republic Of Australia Reply #108 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:36am Del_has_returned wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:32am: Yes but you've not said I'm wrong, you've merely used your overworked expression yet again. You're wrong because you have no faith in the nation... Only (metaphorically) the fears of a child.
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Reply #109 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:45am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:36am:

Del_has_returned wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:32am:

Yes but you've not said I'm wrong, you've merely used your overworked expression yet again.

You're wrong because you have no faith in the nation... Only (metaphorically) the fears of a child.

And what faith do you have? The faith which I'd have to say is more of an obsession because you are bound by an obvious inferiority complex, more concerned with how Australia "appears" to the rest of the world than what benefits the country.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: The Republic Of Australia Reply #110 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:49am If Aussies are so intent on having a King or Queen lets get our own because its a tad stupid to have the head of another country on the other side of the world as a Queen, hey we could pinch Japan's Emperor or the Thais or Khmer's Kings because at least they are closer to our region of the world
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Re: The Republic Of Australia
Reply #111 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:54am

adelcrow wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:49am:

If Aussies are so intent on having a King or Queen lets get our own because its a tad stupid to have the head of another country on the other side of the world as a Queen, hey we could pinch Japan's Emperor or the Thais or Khmer's Kings because at least they are closer to our region of the world

I thought you'd already got rid of one little "Emperor", and are in the process of trying to elect an "Empress"..........

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: The Republic Of Australia Reply #112 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:57am I am happy to put myself forward as Emperor of Australia if that will help
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Reply #113 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:59am

Del_has_returned wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:45am:

And what faith do you have? The faith which I'd have to say is more of an obsession because you are bound by an obvious inferiority complex, more concerned with how Australia "appears" to the rest of the world than what benefits the country.

Some inferiority complex Grin

One that asserts the nation can express itself solely by its own terms.

The world is not much better than bemused by our retention of a foreign head of state.

It benefits us not at all.

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Del_has_returned Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 288	Re: The Republic Of Australia Reply #114 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:08pm "express itself" soley by its own terms........Labor (American) I don't think "the world" gives Australia that much thought.
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: The Republic Of Australia Reply #115 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:19pm Del_has_returned wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:08pm: I don't think "the world" gives Australia that much thought. So who has the inferiority complex now? Why the need for a foreign head of state?... is a question asked often enough by foreigners. (Elizabeth herself, I'm sure, asks the same question).
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Reply #116 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:30pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:19pm:

Del_has_returned wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:08pm:

I don't think "the world" gives Australia that much thought.

So who has the inferiority complex now?

Why the need for a foreign head of state?... is a question asked often enough by foreigners. (Elizabeth herself, I'm sure, asks the same question).

You’re very good at asking questions on behalf of other people including The Queen, and no doubt answering them also.

It’s only obsessive people like you who whinge on about “why the need for a foreign head of state”, not I hasten to add foreigners, at least the ones I’ve spoken to, they I’m sure feel that there are more important things for Australia to be concerned about.

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Reply #117 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:48pm

Del_has_returned wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:30pm:

You’re very good at asking questions on behalf of other people including The Queen, and no doubt answering them also.

It’s only obsessive people like you who whinge on about “why the need for a foreign head of state”, not I hasten to add foreigners, at least the ones I’ve spoken to, they I’m sure feel that there are more important things for Australia to be concerned about.

Its only the culturally infantile who imagine outsiders as feeling something more than bemused by our retention of a foreign head of state... Who imagine that it elevates the status of this nation (a la "The Queen brings a lot of global status to this country without which Australia really wouldn't make much of an impression on the world stage"). Sure, there are other things that interest foreigners more about Australia, but few, if any, (non-English) foreigners perceive it as anything other than infantile. Why do many English see the English Queen as our foreign head of state as significant? Maybe they perceive it as augmenting English global status... while maintaining little interest in what it does (or doesn't) do for Australia.

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Del_has_returned Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 288	Re: The Republic Of Australia Reply #118 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:50pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:19pm: So who has the inferiority complex now? I'd have to say you're still the main contender.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121075 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The Republic Of Australia Reply #119 - Jul 25^th, 2010 at 12:51pm adelcrow wrote on Jul 25^th, 2010 at 11:57am: I am happy to put myself forward as Emperor of Australia if that will help Me also. You may refer to me as - Your Majesty.
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