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Reply #105 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:13pm
 
I blame SMOKING.  You rarely saw a really FAT person when smoking cigarettes was OK. Once they banned that, people took up EATING to satisfy their cravings.

Some people still smoke (23% of the population) but 40% are obese. Should we give out FREE ciggies to the OBESE lot to stop them eating?i





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Reply #106 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:18pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:07pm:
Yes you probably are right...just something I came across
Im pretty sure the main thrust of the article is correct, its a good find, articial sweeteners do ring our bells, I just think blaming them for obesity is incorrect, I think they may be helping to perpetuate it though. If you are like me, you really need something sweet in your life.
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Reply #107 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:33pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:13pm:
I blame SMOKING.  You rarely saw a really FAT person when smoking cigarettes was OK. Once they banned that, people took up EATING to satisfy their cravings.

Some people still smoke (23% of the population) but 40% are obese. Should we give out FREE ciggies to the OBESE lot to stop them eating?


Actually I smoked until I was about 30. ( 40years ago)

Breakfast was a cup of tea and a ciggy. I do think they cure cravings including hunger.

Cancer is the down side, although I might join my younger sister and take it up again when I turn 80 as I did enjoy it apart from the morning coughing session.

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Reply #108 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:35pm
 
Don't eat big slabs of meat day in day out. If you do make sure you burn it through exercise. That's why people are getting fat.
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Reply #109 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 5:47pm
 
Rocketanski wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:35pm:
Don't eat big slabs of meat day in day out. If you do make sure you burn it through exercise. That's why people are getting fat.

absolute  nonsensical rubbish
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Reply #110 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 5:48pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:33pm:
Neferti wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:13pm:
I blame SMOKING.  You rarely saw a really FAT person when smoking cigarettes was OK. Once they banned that, people took up EATING to satisfy their cravings.

Some people still smoke (23% of the population) but 40% are obese. Should we give out FREE ciggies to the OBESE lot to stop them eating?


Actually I smoked until I was about 30. ( 40years ago)

Breakfast was a cup of tea and a ciggy. I do think they cure cravings including hunger.

Cancer is the down side, although I might join my younger sister and take it up again when I turn 80 as I did enjoy it apart from the morning coughing session.

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I only smoke after sex. It comes out of my ears.
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Reply #111 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 7:46pm
 
Neferti wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:13pm:
I blame SMOKING.  You rarely saw a really FAT person when smoking cigarettes was OK. Once they banned that, people took up EATING to satisfy their cravings.

Some people still smoke (23% of the population) but 40% are obese. Should we give out FREE ciggies to the OBESE lot to stop them eating?


Bingo! Correctomundo.

But! You've persisted with a couple of urban myths here.

When I stopped a nearly 2-pack a day smoking habit 20 years ago I did not start eating more ... and I did not start tasting my food any better. And nor did I compensate myself with chocolates and ice cream.

Smoking among professional models has been part of their tools for staying slim. There are 2000 different chemicals packed into each cigarette, and no doubt some of these burn up fat in the blood stream.

One of my bosses was tall but round with an enormous stomach, and he told me this happened when he gave up smoking. Same thing happened to me.

You smoke - you're on-track to die of cancer.

Stop smoking - and your a candidate to die from heart disease.ii

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Reply #112 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 7:50pm
 
ian wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 5:48pm:
I only smoke after sex.


Now you know why I don't smoke.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #113 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:04pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 7:50pm:
ian wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 5:48pm:
I only smoke after sex.


Now you know why I don't smoke.  Roll Eyes


Now I know you're a wanker!

If you wish to journey into self-love, you've got to make a fist of it!

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Reply #115 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:13pm
 
Lionel Edriess wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:04pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 7:50pm:
ian wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 5:48pm:
I only smoke after sex.


Now you know why I don't smoke.  Roll Eyes


Now I know you're a person!

If you wish to journey into self-love, you've got to make a fist of it!

Cool


Onanism is not for me, Lionel, but then again, if you want to give me a hand with my non-existent sex-life, then you'll have to hurry before Annie finds me in the Tool Shed.
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Reply #116 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:22pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 5:41am:
Intermittent fasting seems to be the rage these days, usually 5 and 2. Eat normal (not pigging out) for five days then cut your kj intake right down for two days. I just don't think it's good for your body, but everyone to their own. I know people that do it and swear by it, my doctor hands out brochures to his patients, so he mustn't think it's unhealthy.


Myself included in the group of people who believe in fasting. I read an online book about salubrious living. One thing that needs to be *cut down* in terms of consumption is sugar. Get the sugar consumption to be only a minor part of your diet, and you will lose weight easily. Cutting out alcohol (like I have done recently) will make weight loss easy, because it helps the intestines and liver, and kidneys to process the food more efficiently.

Getting back to fasting topics, it is okay to have a day of fasting (no eating for 12 hours) per week. I wouldn't go beyond one day of a week to doing that because it might incite your subconscious to start to combat starvation. But you shouldn't do that unless you are a few weeks into cutting out alcohol, sugar, and excess fat from your diet.

Last night, I started grapefruit juice (watered down) as part of the weight loss diet. Grapefruit seems to cut down the fat in the body, making it easy to lose weight.  have also bought cinnamon tablets, to get the sugar levels under control.

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Reply #117 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:28pm
 
ian wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 5:48pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:33pm:
Neferti wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:13pm:
I blame SMOKING.  You rarely saw a really FAT person when smoking cigarettes was OK. Once they banned that, people took up EATING to satisfy their cravings.

Some people still smoke (23% of the population) but 40% are obese. Should we give out FREE ciggies to the OBESE lot to stop them eating?


Actually I smoked until I was about 30. ( 40years ago)

Breakfast was a cup of tea and a ciggy. I do think they cure cravings including hunger.

Cancer is the down side, although I might join my younger sister and take it up again when I turn 80 as I did enjoy it apart from the morning coughing session.

Winki






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I only smoke after sex. It comes out of my ears.


I used to smoke after sex as well.  Now I don't have sex, I don't smoke either.  Wink
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Reply #118 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:34pm
 
ian wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 10:07am:
it has its benefits but is not a one size fits all. Athletes cant do it without affecting performance and its dangerous for the obese. Its a way of maintaining weight but not a very good or healthy one. The Nazis had good success with it though. Any semi starvation diet is unhealthy. why on earth would anyone adopt a diet which starves the body of nutrients? Despite this, depriving the body of calories for many people will result in the body conserving calories which will hinder those attempting to lose weight.


I'm obese. And although if I was active during a fast, it would be dangerous, the fasting has done me a lot of good. As I said earlier, if I was exercising whilst starving, I can pass out. But if I was not doing much, the fasting is fine.

One year, I didn't eat a thing for almost 2 days. Nothing but water. When I was noticed as having missed meals, I was forced to eat a sandwich (that I just about inhaled), and that was my break-fast. I went back to eating normally, and I noticed that my skin was hanging loose. I must have lost a lot of weight inside one week of normal eating and the previous 2 days of starving myself for food. For the record, I did the extended fasting to protest some woman's comments about me being fat. But I was 90kgs at the time.

Funny thing I heard this year was the Biggest Loser trainer (Steve Willis/Commando) claiming that he could lose 5kg within a week. *I* couldn't lose 5kg in a week, even if I had an intensive workout. And I have plenty of weight to lose.
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Reply #119 - Dec 31st, 2014 at 3:37pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:33pm:
Neferti wrote on Dec 30th, 2014 at 4:13pm:
I blame SMOKING.  You rarely saw a really FAT person when smoking cigarettes was OK. Once they banned that, people took up EATING to satisfy their cravings.

Some people still smoke (23% of the population) but 40% are obese. Should we give out FREE ciggies to the OBESE lot to stop them eating?


Actually I smoked until I was about 30. ( 40years ago)

Breakfast was a cup of tea and a ciggy. I do think they cure cravings including hunger.

Cancer is the down side, although I might join my younger sister and take it up again when I turn 80 as I did enjoy it apart from the morning coughing session.

Winki






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They are still trying to stop people smoking by blaming ciggies for various forms of cancer.  People started giving up ciggies in droves (for their health) way back in the early 1980s. Cancer rates have risen. Despite loads of money going into cancer research, they still can't figure it out.  Cancer has been around for centuries.  I found that a Scottish relative of mine died from cancer, age 48, back in the mid 1800s. I doubt she smoked. Wink

Kids are still starting to smoke. So raising the price of ciggies is not the answer either.
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