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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #15 - Nov 7th, 2007 at 11:49pm
 
Blasko wrote on Nov 5th, 2007 at 9:26pm:
I wonder if you'd like to go out into the middle of a busy street and state your opinions out loud. Because you seem awfully harsh in an anonymous forum. I doubt you'd be like this in public.


No i have more sense than that. Roll Eyes

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Hey I got a question for you.

Do you have government statistics backing you up?


HA! Like the Govt would admit something like that.
But here is an example for you.

www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22698351-661,00.html
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the truth of the matter
Reply #16 - Nov 8th, 2007 at 11:17am
 
If you ignore the racist rhetoric and the attempts to characterise all by the actions of the few, you realise the truth is quite different:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1185325096

Migrants are better educated, more law-abiding, are generally healthier and less dependent on welfare than the average Australian-born citizen, a new report reveals.

Migrants are required to pass a series of health checks before acquiring temporary or permanent status in Australia.

The report found migrants have a lower hospitalisation rate than Australian-born citizens.

UNE professor Jim Walmsley, co-editor of the report, said there was no evidence of a "migrant underclass" or "ethnic enclave ghettos" in Australia and the report "dispelled a number of myths about the impact of migrants on the host community".

"On the contrary, the available evidence overwhelmingly supports the view that migrants to Australia have made substantial contributions to Australia's stock of human, social and produced capital," Prof Walmsley said.



If anyone has failed to assimilate, it is people like Dude. His family has probably been here for generations, yet he still openly rejects aussie values.
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #17 - Nov 8th, 2007 at 12:50pm
 
if migrants are that way, even by the study of a probable leftie, it is due to Aussies stringent migration requirements.
eg, offshore processing of boat people.
I propose we improve our standards as regards migration.
many other countries have regretted their laxness in this area.
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #18 - Nov 10th, 2007 at 4:04am
 
You will learn the hard way Farkin Dickhead, I wont help you in your hour of peril.
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Ethnic groups want citizen test changed
Reply #19 - Jan 2nd, 2008 at 4:04pm
 
http://news.smh.com.au/ethnic-groups-want-citizen-test-changed/20080102-1jt5.html

Ethnic groups have backed an overhaul of Australia's new citizenship test after reports that one in five applicants are failing it.

Of the 10,636 people who have taken the test since it was introduced by the Howard government in October, 2,311 - about 20 per cent - failed.

Candidates must take a 20-question quiz on Australian history, values and way of life, and show adequate competence in the English language.

The West Australian newspaper reported that new Immigration Minister Chris Evans would review the citizenship test in the wake of the failure rate and could make substantial changes to it.

NSW Anti-Discrimination Board president Stepan Kerkyasharian was critical of the test's content, saying it should rely less on culture and more on practical knowledge about Australia.

"Let's have a test that's practical, that basically finds out whether someone knows enough about the political system," he said.

"It shouldn't be a test of culture but a test of knowledge.

"I'd like to see a citizenship test which is easy to administer, easy to take part in, not sort of couched in high-level English terms, and a test about the political system in Australia and what every day life in Australia is about, not about what happened 20 years ago in some cricket match."
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #20 - Jan 3rd, 2008 at 5:47pm
 
I wonder how successful people who failed a driving test would be if they lobbied to have the test made easier?
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #21 - Jan 5th, 2008 at 11:54am
 
Speaks English with an Australian accent.
Understands strine.
Has an aversion to elitism and egotism.
Knows what "a fair go" means.
Understands the Australian love of sport.
Puts Australia and Australians before any other nation or nationality.
Is patriotic but doesn't show it.
Well there's a few that come quickly to mind.
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #22 - Jan 5th, 2008 at 12:41pm
 
Doesn't the 'fair go' bit contradict your other requirements?
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Reply #23 - Jan 5th, 2008 at 1:57pm
 
No.
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Citizenship review may axe sport, dates
Reply #24 - Jan 29th, 2008 at 12:48pm
 
Citizenship review may axe sport, dates

http://news.smh.com.au/citizenship-review-may-axe-sport-dates/20080129-1onz.html

Questions that ask would-be citizens to recall historical dates and sporting trivia appear set for the axe under a review of the Australian citizenship test.

The review, announced on Tuesday by Immigration Minister Chris Evans, will examine whether some test questions are inappropriate and whether the level of English required to pass is set too high.

It also will determine whether the test is deterring people from taking out Australian citizenship after a drop in applications since its introduction by the Howard government on October 1.

The Rudd government has ruled out scrapping the test but says it wants to ensure the quiz is not an "artificial barrier" to citizenship.

Senator Evans said he believed some test questions were inappropriate, particularly those that asked applicants to recall the names of famous sportspeople or historical dates such as the year the Australian flag was first flown.

"I think it's really important that new citizens have an understanding of our democracy, how it functions, (and) have an understanding of the values of Australia," he told reporters on Tuesday.

"It's important to understand about the right to vote, about the rule of law ... the role of the police, that we don't tolerate violence.

"Whether or not they need to understand the history of Walter Lindrum's contribution to billiards in the 1930s and 40s I'm not so sure."

The test is done through a computer and the government believes this may be confronting to some people, particularly those without formal education.

"I know my dad would find the idea of a test on a computer quite confronting," Senator Evans said.

There were suggestions the level of English required to complete the test may be set too high - close to the level of a native speaker.

Civil Liberties Australia said the test had been clearly skewed to disadvantage refugees and humanitarian immigrants.

"Cricket is not a high priority, when just eating and surviving is all they have time for," president Kristine Klugman said.

"The test needs to be reviewed on the basis of its purpose and the equity with which it achieves this purpose - it's hard to see how it is needed now when it hasn't been for the past 60 years."



Citizenship test 'must be in English'

http://news.smh.com.au/citizenship-test-must-be-in-english/20080130-1p1u.html

The federal opposition doesn't want would-be citizens to take the Australian citizenship test in their native language.

Refugees and humanitarian entrants from countries such as Sudan, Afghanistan and Iraq are failing the test at rates far higher than applicants from industrialised nations, departmental figures show.

"For it to be conducted in anything other than English flies in the face of the purpose of the test," Senator Ellison told AAP.

"If the immigration minister is seeking to increase the success rate of refugee and humanitarian entrants, we support that.

"But he should be looking at measures to provide further assistance to refugee and humanitarian entrants, not a wholesale watering-down of the test."

There was no evidence of widespread failure rates making people unable to gain citizenship, Senator Ellison said.

Although the information booklet on which the test is based comes in foreign languages, citizenship applicants must complete the actual test in English.

Before the test's introduction in October, applicants for Australian citizenship took an English test conducted by a departmental interviewer.

A person must have lived in Australia for at least four years before being eligible to sit the citizenship test.

Senator Ellison rejected suggestions the test had deterred people from taking out Australian citizenship, saying its impact needed to be judged over a longer term.

Immigration department figures show the number of people applying for citizenship slumped from 13,930 in August last year and 21,110 in September to just 2,170 in October and 3,400 in November.
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #25 - Feb 21st, 2008 at 10:28am
 
as far as i'm concerned

if you speak the language

follow australia in sport

and would support asutralia befroe anyone els ein a war

you are australian.
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #26 - Feb 21st, 2008 at 11:18am
 
What if you don't care about sport?
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Reply #27 - Feb 23rd, 2008 at 7:43am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 8th, 2007 at 11:17am:
If you ignore the racist rhetoric and the attempts to characterise all by the actions of the few, you realise the truth is quite different:


Tell that to the people in places like Balga, Girrawheen and Ballajura in Perth, whos kids get beaten up and whos houses get broken into by these violent pricks.
I reckon give them 1 chance if they stuff up send them back to their war torn shacks.
The government is not going to admit they are letting violent scum into Australia. If they want to help the aborigines so much bugger these individuals of and use the money to build more houses and schools in aboriginal communities. They have more rights to our tax $$$ than war bred imports.
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #28 - May 1st, 2008 at 7:48pm
 
hi,
i'm almost 60yrs, now.
all i can tell you is:
this country was better in every way 30yrs ago.
we've become a dumping ground for other countries.
not good, and never will be.
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Re: People who assimilate into our Aussie culture
Reply #29 - May 1st, 2008 at 10:08pm
 
A dumping ground? You mean like for criminals and prostitutes? What happened to the good clean white folk who originally settled here?
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