I guarantee that I have spent more time dealing with livestock than you ever have

"Have you ever seen what happens to a sheep who is mutilated thru a bad muells? It get blown by flies and or dies or bleeds to death."

You didnt even answer the question..muelsing came about a very long time ago..to avaid his sheep from being flyblown..wheres the genuis in that ?


So the practise of mulesing came up to avoid flystrike at the same time causing it? You are either the biggest idiot on the internet or your claims of spending time on a station was a hobby farm to come to that conclusion

So it being 2007 now IQ..why are they still inflicting these cruel practices in this day and age?..for the convenience of farmers..just because something has always been done doesn not mean it should always remain so..where would we be if our doctors were not continually up to speed on the lates that medicine had to offer his patients.

There are better practice developmnets and ideas on the market..but farmers are not picking them up..bottom line ..PROFIT.!!

Here's an idea. Lets fund an anaesthesiologist for all farms from out of the tax free dollars that come from every idiots donation to fundamentalist activists

Your ignorance is astounding and emabarrassing actually...ever heard of topical anesthetics, even the spray on type etc.

Topical anaesthetics? Talk about ignorance , I won't even bother explaining it to you

But muellsing executed badly will cause more problems than it solves  ie: blood loss and sometimes death and or infection because of a gaping wound

So what you are saying is that you have been around people that have practised mulesing that are incompetent?  Considering the source, I am not surprised.

It is obvious that you have an opinion about everything yet lack any knowledge whatsoever.

...end of discussion

It wouldn't have...but drama llama is up to her old tricks 

With indigestion so it seems

Nice. ive quit drinkin.

mmmmm corn soup with ham.... drooooooooooooollllll.

This is interesting - both groups claiming victory like this:

Wool industry claims animals rights win

http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/Wool-industry-claims-animals-rights-win/2007/06/30/1182624214882.html

After years of wrangling, Australia's wool industry has a claimed victory over US animals rights group People for Ethical Treatment of Animals over its campaign to stop the mulesing of sheep.

The Australian wool industry, one of Australia's largest rural exporters with annual global sales of around A$2.5 billion a year, said in a statement on Saturday that it had won an "historic" agreement from PETA to "stop threatening global retailers over the practice of mulesing until December 31, 2010".

PETA had agreed to this, under mediation, in return for the Australian industry body Australian Wool Innovation agreeing to end a legal case brought in the Federal Court of Australia.

But PETA's founder Ingrid Newkirk said the group was still calling for a boycott of Australian wool.

"We continue to tell everybody - shoppers, retailers - please do not buy Australian wool," she told local radio.

AWI described this as "inevitable spin" by PETA.

In January this year pop star Pink apologised to Australians for calling on consumers, during a concert in Paris, to boycott Australian wool over the "sadistic" practice of mulesing.

Pink, whose real name is Alecia Moore, later said she had been misinformed.

Australian actress Toni Collette in 2005 signed onto a PETA anti-mulesing campaign before later apologising.

Mulesing is unique to Australia where hot and humid weather makes sheep particularly vulnerable to severe fly strike. The practice is to be phased out by December, 2010.

'Win for animal rights' over woolgrowers

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Win-for-animal-rights-over-woolgrowers/2007/06/30/1182624211575.html

A US-based animal rights group is claiming a major legal victory over Australian woolgrowers.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) founder Ingrid Newkirk said Australian Wool Innovation (AWI) has abandoned its two-year-old lawsuit against her group and caved in on a number of key issues in PETA's long-running campaign to ban mulesing.

AWI, a not-for-profit company owned by Australian woolgrowers, filed the lawsuit in the federal court in Sydney two years ago over PETA's global boycott campaign of mulesed Australian wool.

"The extraordinary amount of money AWI was pouring into this case must have raised eyebrows in a number of places down on the farm," Newkirk told AAP.

Comment was being sought from AWI.

PETA's lawyer, Fraser Shepherd, of Sydney law firm Gilbert and Tobin, said AWI's decision to drop its lawsuit was "a clear lesson to other industries that it is extremely unwise to try to silence their critics by using heavy-handed litigation, rather than sensible dialogue".

PETA said under the terms of the agreement, AWI withdrew its lawsuit and pledged to fast-track the development of genetic alternatives to mulesing.

PETA said AWI also agreed not to block a new labelling system that informs consumers and retailers if wool used in an item comes from a mulesed sheep.

The sole concession PETA says it will make is to temporarily halt its call for a consumer boycott of specific retailers who sell clothing using Australian wool.

PETA's campaign had influenced retailers including Liz Claiborne, Abercrombie and Fitch, American Eagle, Timberland, Limited Brands and UK-based chains New Look and George to move away from Australian wool.

"Our message is that animal abusers sue PETA at their peril," Newkirk said.

AWI hit back on Saturday, saying it had won a landmark commitment from PETA to stop threatening global retailers over the practice of mulesing until December 31, 2010.

It said the date was significant because it was when the Australian wool industry had agreed to phase out surgical mulesing.

AWI deputy chief Les Targ said Australian woolgrowers had always put the welfare of their sheep first and business had increased in the past year.

"Since the Federal Court case began, PETA's activities have been curbed and demand for Australian Merino wool has grown, unfettered by the influence of the animal rights movement," Mr Targ said in a statement.

"The last twelve months, the value of wool exports has increased by more than $700 million."